Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I take off the Donated, seen
 
"The NHM acquisition has been made possible through the generous support of a 
private donor."
 
a donation is a direct gift from the person have the piece, here is well write 
are buy and after donated
 
Matteo

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Da: Graham Ensor 
A: meteorite list  
Inviato: Mercoledì 8 Febbraio 2012 16:39
Oggetto: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM!

Hi All,

Just seen this...wow!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16943200

I wonder who?...very generous!

http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm

Graham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Michael Farmer
The meteorite was purchased by the BM from Pitt. A very wealthy donor in the uk 
funded the purchase and wishes to remain in the shadows. The BM was in my room 
yesterday and I completed an exchange for some of the rarest of the rare 
meteorite falls with BM lables, so i got my info on the large piece direct from 
the source, the BM.
It was not donated by a meteorite dealer.

Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Graham Ensor  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Just seen this...wow!
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16943200
> 
> I wonder who?...very generous!
> 
> http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm
> 
> Graham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Martin Goff
There is a short clip here from the ITV news with some good footage of
 the stone on.

 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVI-t28m0PQ)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Ensor
Hi Darryl and all,

Thought you might like to see thishope it can be seen in other
parts of the world.

BBC report on the Tissint 1099g Mars meteorite donated to them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16955349

Graham

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Darryl Pitt  wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> For purposes of clarity, Dave was not the benefactor referred to in the piece 
> and I was not on the ground In Morocco searching for this meteorite.  Neither 
> Dave or myself spoke to the wrtier.  The aspect of the Natural History 
> Museum's press release which referenced our role in this acquisition was 
> constrained to the following:
>
>
> Darryl Pitt of the Macovich Collection in New York City, and Dave Gheesling 
> of the Falling Rocks Collection in Atlanta, sold the main mass to the Natural 
> History Museum.  Pitt finally acquired the meteorite after having heard 
> rumors as to its existence over a period of weeks.  With every lead turning 
> into a dead end, he nearly gave up when he received a fateful phone call.  
> Pitt reached out to his friend Gheesling to assist with the financing, and 
> shortly thereafter reached out to the NHM.  Said Pitt, "It is both humbling 
> and an honor to be part of this meteorite's journey, and the Natural History 
> Museum is the perfect final residence."  Added Gheesling, "Both Darryl and I 
> enjoy giving talks to kids about meteorites, and while we could have earned 
> far more selling this specimen elsewhere, there was no discussion of this 
> historic specimen going anywhere other than a major museum for future 
> generations to enjoy."
>
>
> Yes, we could have earned far more selling this elsewhere, yet we agreed this 
> belonged in a major museum.  It was a donor of the Natural History Museum, 
> who prefers to remain anonymous, who helped make the acquisition possible.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Graham Ensor wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Just seen this...wow!
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16943200
>>
>> I wonder who?...very generous!
>>
>> http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Gary Fujihara
Indeed Graham, an extraordinary specimen of the Tissint martian fall.  Your 
piece seems to have many different surfaces and textures with primary and 
secondary fusion crust.  The transparent, flowlined fusion crust on the leading 
edge reminds me of Puerto Lapice.  The glossy black fusion crust on the other 
surfaces and huge olivine phenocrysts, maskelynite and glassy melt pockets 
revealed on the fractured surface are simply delicious!  (and yes, I did taste 
a bit of Tissint).  

gary

On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Graham Ensor wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> No Mike this is not a cut  or polished facethat is the natural
> leading face of this fragment (which is what attracted me to the
> piece)it has an amazing transparent glassy fusion crust with flow
> lines (look at the top edge)you can see right through it to the
> matrix, maskelynite and olivinesit then flows over the lipped edge
> to a thicker black more opaque crust with more flow lines and
> characteristic texture. This fragment broke a couple of times on the
> way down and one other face is only lightly sprayed with fusion crust
> just from the direction of the leading edge and then the last
> fragmentation was in cold flight or on the ground revealing one face
> showing just the interior matrixtells a nice story about it's
> meeting with planet Earth :-)
> 
> I love pieces that tell storiesespecially when they are from Mars ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>  wrote:
>> Hi Graham and List,
>> 
>> What a fine Tissint cut you have.  Is that cut face polished?  It
>> looks like it in the photo.  Nice photos.  Thanks for sharing them.
>> The best Martian is one that inspires minds and newbies, and these
>> donated or outreach specimens achieve that goal.  :)
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> MikeG
>> 
>> --
>> *
>> Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
>> 
>> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>> Facebook -  http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
>> News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
>> ***
>> 
>> On 2/8/12, Graham Ensor  wrote:
>>> Wonderful news.it is such an important fall and deserves it's
>>> place in the NHM collection. It should attract lots of interest and
>>> promote meteoritics well if the reaction of the public is anything to
>>> go by when I exhibited my 21g sample of Tissint for the Stargazing
>>> Live events at the Long Eaton Academy and at Oxford University, dept.
>>> of Astrophysics a couple of weeks ago.
>>> 
>>> http://www.derbyastronomy.org/StargazingLive2012LongEaton.htm
>>> 
>>> http://mpole2011.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/bbc-stargazing-live-2012/
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping the BIMS group can organize a group visit when it goes
>>> on public display.any indications when that might happen?
>>> 
>>> Can't wait to see what the scientific studies reveal.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
>>>> Congratulations to The Natural History Museum on a fine acquisition. I am
>>>> pleased to see that a large piece of Tissint (pronounced like peasant with
>>>> a "T" instead of a "P") will be preserved and displayed publicly. Thank
>>>> you, Caroline for clarifying the museum's position on falls/finds from
>>>> this region.
>>>> 
>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Caroline Smith 
>>>> To: Adam Hupe 
>>>> Cc: Adam 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM!
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your kind words. The Museum is delighted to have acquired
>>>> such an important specimen, both for science and our 4.8M visitors/year to
>>>> enjoy.
>>>> 
>>>> To clarify there is no 'politics' involved here. The Museum has a policy
>>>> (derived from UK and international museum policies and standards) that we
>>>> cannot acquire meteorites with unclear provenance i.e. NWA meteorites,
>>>> o

Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Ensor
Hi Mike,

No Mike this is not a cut  or polished facethat is the natural
leading face of this fragment (which is what attracted me to the
piece)it has an amazing transparent glassy fusion crust with flow
lines (look at the top edge)you can see right through it to the
matrix, maskelynite and olivinesit then flows over the lipped edge
to a thicker black more opaque crust with more flow lines and
characteristic texture. This fragment broke a couple of times on the
way down and one other face is only lightly sprayed with fusion crust
just from the direction of the leading edge and then the last
fragmentation was in cold flight or on the ground revealing one face
showing just the interior matrixtells a nice story about it's
meeting with planet Earth :-)

I love pieces that tell storiesespecially when they are from Mars ;-)

Cheers,

Graham

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
 wrote:
> Hi Graham and List,
>
> What a fine Tissint cut you have.  Is that cut face polished?  It
> looks like it in the photo.  Nice photos.  Thanks for sharing them.
> The best Martian is one that inspires minds and newbies, and these
> donated or outreach specimens achieve that goal.  :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
> --
> *
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
>
> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
> Facebook -  http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
> News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
> ***
>
> On 2/8/12, Graham Ensor  wrote:
>> Wonderful news.it is such an important fall and deserves it's
>> place in the NHM collection. It should attract lots of interest and
>> promote meteoritics well if the reaction of the public is anything to
>> go by when I exhibited my 21g sample of Tissint for the Stargazing
>> Live events at the Long Eaton Academy and at Oxford University, dept.
>> of Astrophysics a couple of weeks ago.
>>
>> http://www.derbyastronomy.org/StargazingLive2012LongEaton.htm
>>
>> http://mpole2011.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/bbc-stargazing-live-2012/
>>
>> Here's hoping the BIMS group can organize a group visit when it goes
>> on public display.any indications when that might happen?
>>
>> Can't wait to see what the scientific studies reveal.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
>>> Congratulations to The Natural History Museum on a fine acquisition. I am
>>> pleased to see that a large piece of Tissint (pronounced like peasant with
>>> a "T" instead of a "P") will be preserved and displayed publicly. Thank
>>> you, Caroline for clarifying the museum's position on falls/finds from
>>> this region.
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Caroline Smith 
>>> To: Adam Hupe 
>>> Cc: Adam 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind words. The Museum is delighted to have acquired
>>> such an important specimen, both for science and our 4.8M visitors/year to
>>> enjoy.
>>>
>>> To clarify there is no 'politics' involved here. The Museum has a policy
>>> (derived from UK and international museum policies and standards) that we
>>> cannot acquire meteorites with unclear provenance i.e. NWA meteorites,
>>> owing to the issues of potential illicit or illegal movement across
>>> borders where permits are required for export and/or specimen movement.
>>>
>>> With the Tissint meteorite this is NOT the case as it is a
>>> well-provenanced specimen from Morocco, which as you know, is a country
>>> which does not require permits to export meteorite specimens.
>>>
>>> I hope this clarifies things.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Caroline
>>> 
>>>
>>> Dr Caroline Smith
>>> Curator of Meteorites and Aurora Fellow
>>> Department of Mineralogy
>>> The Natural History Museum
>>> Cromwell Road
>>> London
>>> SW7 5BD
>>>
>>> On 8 Feb 2012, at 17:02, "Adam Hupe"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is great to

Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Ensor
Wonderful news.it is such an important fall and deserves it's
place in the NHM collection. It should attract lots of interest and
promote meteoritics well if the reaction of the public is anything to
go by when I exhibited my 21g sample of Tissint for the Stargazing
Live events at the Long Eaton Academy and at Oxford University, dept.
of Astrophysics a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.derbyastronomy.org/StargazingLive2012LongEaton.htm

http://mpole2011.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/bbc-stargazing-live-2012/

Here's hoping the BIMS group can organize a group visit when it goes
on public display.any indications when that might happen?

Can't wait to see what the scientific studies reveal.

Regards,

Graham

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
> Congratulations to The Natural History Museum on a fine acquisition. I am 
> pleased to see that a large piece of Tissint (pronounced like peasant with a 
> "T" instead of a "P") will be preserved and displayed publicly. Thank you, 
> Caroline for clarifying the museum's position on falls/finds from this region.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> 
> From: Caroline Smith 
> To: Adam Hupe 
> Cc: Adam 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM!
>
> Adam
>
> Thank you for your kind words. The Museum is delighted to have acquired such 
> an important specimen, both for science and our 4.8M visitors/year to enjoy.
>
> To clarify there is no 'politics' involved here. The Museum has a policy 
> (derived from UK and international museum policies and standards) that we 
> cannot acquire meteorites with unclear provenance i.e. NWA meteorites, owing 
> to the issues of potential illicit or illegal movement across borders where 
> permits are required for export and/or specimen movement.
>
> With the Tissint meteorite this is NOT the case as it is a well-provenanced 
> specimen from Morocco, which as you know, is a country which does not require 
> permits to export meteorite specimens.
>
> I hope this clarifies things.
>
> Regards
>
> Caroline
> 
>
> Dr Caroline Smith
> Curator of Meteorites and Aurora Fellow
> Department of Mineralogy
> The Natural History Museum
> Cromwell Road
> London
> SW7 5BD
>
> On 8 Feb 2012, at 17:02, "Adam Hupe"  wrote:
>
>> It is great to see that major museums are setting politics aside and waking 
>> up to the fact that most of the world's best specimens are coming out of NWA 
>> these days.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread karmaka
Yes, we could have earned far more selling this elsewhere, yet we agreed  
this belonged in a major museum.  It was a donor of the Natural History  
Museum, who prefers to remain anonymous, who helped make the  acquisition 
possible. >
 
Ideed, very well done!!
 
A donor like this one is as rare as the fall itself and deserves our deepest 
respect.
 
So, if this anonymous person reads this, let me tell you:
 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH !
 
I'm looking forward to my next visit to the Natural History  Museum!  ;-)
 
Best wishes
 
Martin
 
 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Martin Goff
Dave, Darryl,

A few more words to add to what Matthias said. Amazingl Absolutely
amazing! Going to look forward to hopefully seeing it in the flesh on
my next visit to the NHM London.

Congrats to both of you

Cheers

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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Adam Hupe
Congratulations to The Natural History Museum on a fine acquisition. I am 
pleased to see that a large piece of Tissint (pronounced like peasant with a 
"T" instead of a "P") will be preserved and displayed publicly. Thank you, 
Caroline for clarifying the museum's position on falls/finds from this region.

Kindest Regards,


Adam




From: Caroline Smith 
To: Adam Hupe  
Cc: Adam  
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM!

Adam

Thank you for your kind words. The Museum is delighted to have acquired such an 
important specimen, both for science and our 4.8M visitors/year to enjoy.

To clarify there is no 'politics' involved here. The Museum has a policy 
(derived from UK and international museum policies and standards) that we 
cannot acquire meteorites with unclear provenance i.e. NWA meteorites, owing to 
the issues of potential illicit or illegal movement across borders where 
permits are required for export and/or specimen movement.

With the Tissint meteorite this is NOT the case as it is a well-provenanced 
specimen from Morocco, which as you know, is a country which does not require 
permits to export meteorite specimens.

I hope this clarifies things.

Regards

Caroline 


Dr Caroline Smith
Curator of Meteorites and Aurora Fellow
Department of Mineralogy
The Natural History Museum
Cromwell Road
London
SW7 5BD

On 8 Feb 2012, at 17:02, "Adam Hupe"  wrote:

> It is great to see that major museums are setting politics aside and waking 
> up to the fact that most of the world's best specimens are coming out of NWA 
> these days.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Adam Hupe
It is great to see that major museums are setting politics aside and waking up 
to the fact that most of the world's best specimens are coming out of NWA these 
days.

Kind Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Matthias Bärmann


Two words to both of you, Darryl, Dave: well done! No, three words: very 
well done!


Best regards,
Matthias

- Original Message - 
From: "Darryl Pitt" 

To: "Graham Ensor" 
Cc: "meteorite list" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM!





Hi,

For purposes of clarity, Dave was not the benefactor referred to in the 
piece and I was not on the ground In Morocco searching for this meteorite. 
Neither Dave or myself spoke to the wrtier.  The aspect of the Natural 
History Museum's press release which referenced our role in this 
acquisition was constrained to the following:



Darryl Pitt of the Macovich Collection in New York City, and Dave 
Gheesling of the Falling Rocks Collection in Atlanta, sold the main mass 
to the Natural History Museum.  Pitt finally acquired the meteorite after 
having heard rumors as to its existence over a period of weeks.  With 
every lead turning into a dead end, he nearly gave up when he received a 
fateful phone call.  Pitt reached out to his friend Gheesling to assist 
with the financing, and shortly thereafter reached out to the NHM.  Said 
Pitt, "It is both humbling and an honor to be part of this meteorite's 
journey, and the Natural History Museum is the perfect final residence." 
Added Gheesling, "Both Darryl and I enjoy giving talks to kids about 
meteorites, and while we could have earned far more selling this specimen 
elsewhere, there was no discussion of this historic specimen going 
anywhere other than a major museum for future generations to enjoy."



Yes, we could have earned far more selling this elsewhere, yet we agreed 
this belonged in a major museum.  It was a donor of the Natural History 
Museum, who prefers to remain anonymous, who helped make the acquisition 
possible.






On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Graham Ensor wrote:


Hi All,

Just seen this...wow!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16943200

I wonder who?...very generous!

http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm

Graham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Darryl Pitt


Hi, 

For purposes of clarity, Dave was not the benefactor referred to in the piece 
and I was not on the ground In Morocco searching for this meteorite.  Neither 
Dave or myself spoke to the wrtier.  The aspect of the Natural History Museum's 
press release which referenced our role in this acquisition was constrained to 
the following:  


Darryl Pitt of the Macovich Collection in New York City, and Dave Gheesling of 
the Falling Rocks Collection in Atlanta, sold the main mass to the Natural 
History Museum.  Pitt finally acquired the meteorite after having heard rumors 
as to its existence over a period of weeks.  With every lead turning into a 
dead end, he nearly gave up when he received a fateful phone call.  Pitt 
reached out to his friend Gheesling to assist with the financing, and shortly 
thereafter reached out to the NHM.  Said Pitt, "It is both humbling and an 
honor to be part of this meteorite's journey, and the Natural History Museum is 
the perfect final residence."  Added Gheesling, "Both Darryl and I enjoy giving 
talks to kids about meteorites, and while we could have earned far more selling 
this specimen elsewhere, there was no discussion of this historic specimen 
going anywhere other than a major museum for future generations to enjoy."


Yes, we could have earned far more selling this elsewhere, yet we agreed this 
belonged in a major museum.  It was a donor of the Natural History Museum, who 
prefers to remain anonymous, who helped make the acquisition possible. 





On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Graham Ensor wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Just seen this...wow!
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16943200
> 
> I wonder who?...very generous!
> 
> http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm
> 
> Graham
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[meteorite-list] Large Tissint donated to the NHM....!

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Ensor
Hi All,

Just seen this...wow!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16943200

I wonder who?...very generous!

http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm

Graham
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