[meteorite-list] Links to BLM meteorite rules and FAQ
Hi List, Disclaimer: I'm going to play the middle ground on this topic. I don't go out and hunt meteorites so it doesn't affect me directly, but other similar BLM rule changes have affected me in the past. Here are the BLM new rules: http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html Here is their FAQ, including why they're doing this: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/Information_Resources_Management/policy/im_attachments/2012.Par.65264.File.dat/IM2012-182_att1.pdf The following is my opinion, having seen similar things happen in other collecting areas in the past decade: -The new BLM rules are essentially a modification of similar rules regarding petrified wood and paleontology. They took the weight limit, non-selling/non-bartering concept from petrified wood collecting laws. -They seem to base some of it on past issues with major meteorite finds on BLM land. -They are significantly less strict than some other laws, such as fossil collecting (absolutely no vertebrate fossil collecting allowed). -They give people the option of getting a commercial permit (not allowed in paleontology at all). If you want things changed, lobby someone! Most rule change occurs because an interested party put the right amount of political pressure on (or schmooze) the right people. Write and talk to your elected representatives. Or better yet, a society of meteorite collectors should start a fund to hire a lobbying firm with clout. - Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Links to BLM meteorite rules
Wang, well stated! Thank you. It would have been better for the new meteorite collecting rules to match that of collecting fossil (petrified) wood, which gives a limit of 25 pounds plus one piece per day, per person (the one piece can weigh quite a bit) up to 250 pounds per year, per person. Still, petrified wood collected in this manner and on Federal Land cannot be sold or traded, which means if I put a little piece of pet wood that I have polished into a mineral club auction, I'm breaking the law. I'm quite sure that this silly law gets broken many thousands of times a year by rock club members all over the USA, as most love to trade pieces for their collection, and they see nothing wrong with putting a little polished piece into a club auction where much of the money generated goes to the club fund, where some of it is used to help out geology students in college. At least that is what the rock clubs I belong to do with club funds. This new regulation will just make criminals out of meteorite hunters, if their find is a gram over 10 pounds (hey, I'd love to find an 11 pound meteorite, as I've never found a meteorite anywhere near ten pounds!) or if they someday decide to sell the find, say when they are near the end of their life and want to spare family members from having to clear out a lifetime of rock collecting, and they have a BLM found meteorite or petrified wood piece in the collection. So, another poorly thought out law is SET IN STONE, pun intended. Wang is correct! Call and e-mail the BLM to express your dislike of the new regs. POLITELY ask the BLM to loosen up the regulations, as we don't need our meteorite, gold, or rock collecting Americans being fined or going to jail because of a love for their hobby. Regards, Fred Hall Hi List, Disclaimer: I'm going to play the middle ground on this topic. I don't go out and hunt meteorites so it doesn't affect me directly, but other similar BLM rule changes have affected me in the past. Here are the BLM new rules: http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html Here is their FAQ, including why they're doing this: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/Information_Resources_Management/policy/im_attachments/2012.Par.65264.File.dat/IM2012-182_att1.pdf The following is my opinion, having seen similar things happen in other collecting areas in the past decade: -The new BLM rules are essentially a modification of similar rules regarding petrified wood and paleontology. They took the weight limit, non-selling/non-bartering concept from petrified wood collecting laws. -They seem to base some of it on past issues with major meteorite finds on BLM land. -They are significantly less strict than some other laws, such as fossil collecting (absolutely no vertebrate fossil collecting allowed). -They give people the option of getting a commercial permit (not allowed in paleontology at all). If you want things changed, lobby someone! Most rule change occurs because an interested party put the right amount of political pressure on (or schmooze) the right people. Write and talk to your elected representatives. Or better yet, a society of meteorite collectors should start a fund to hire a lobbying firm with clout. - Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Links to data from four radars for 19-October fireball
Hi All, Apologies -- my earlier links were for times that were one hour early. Here are the correct links, covering 08:00-09:00 GMT on 19-October: KGLD - Goodland, KS: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324672/ KLNX - North Platte, NE: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324674/ KUEX - Hastings, NE: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324675/ KOAX - Omaha, NE: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324677/ I still don't see anything that stands out. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Links to data from four radars for 19-Octoberfireball
Rob, Thanks for ordering and posting those. I did some plotting of witness statements and they are all over the place. No Joy. Jim Jim Wooddell https://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Links to data from four radars for 19-Octoberfireball Hi All, Apologies -- my earlier links were for times that were one hour early. Here are the correct links, covering 08:00-09:00 GMT on 19-October: KGLD - Goodland, KS: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324672/ KLNX - North Platte, NE: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324674/ KUEX - Hastings, NE: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324675/ KOAX - Omaha, NE: http://ftp3.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/has/HAS002324677/ I still don't see anything that stands out. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Links to More Images of Tucson Auction Piece
Dear List Members, For your consideration here are some more links to piece, AH8 entered in Michael Blood's Auction: http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-a.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-b.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-c.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-d.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-e.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-j.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Links
Hello all, I am reworking my links page. If you'd like a link on the page, please send me an email and/or small Ad or Logo with the URL and I'll add you in. This is a permanent link and it's free! Likewise, if you have a link already and wish the logo to be updated or to be removed from the site, send a new logo or email me your request to be removed. Thanks, CJ Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
