[meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Farmer
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558
This idiot looks like a great seller!
It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction
to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!

Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.

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2006-12-12 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie
I'm afraid Proud Tom is coming back...

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread mark ford

Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done.

(And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so
they got all they deserve!)

Best,
Mark


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558
This idiot looks like a great seller!
It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction
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Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Jim Strope
Here is the original photo that was linked directly:
http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif

I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my 
website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to 
just upload a new photo under the same URL.

There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo 
from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own 
servers.

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com


>mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006


> Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done.
> (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they 
> got all they deserve!)
> Best, Mark
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com 
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at 
> meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
> http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great 
> seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones 
> elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
> Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
> Mike Farmer
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Gary K. Foote
I've used the same tactic in the past to stop photo thieves.  Makes 'em look 
pretty 
stoopid...  LOL

Good work Jim!

Gary

On 12 Dec 2006 at 11:29, Jim Strope wrote:

> Here is the original photo that was linked directly:
> http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif
> 
> I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my 
> website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to 
> just upload a new photo under the same URL.
> 
> There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo 
> from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own 
> servers.
> 
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV  26038
> 
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> 
> 
> >mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006
> 
> 
> > Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done.
> > (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they 
> > got all they deserve!)
> > Best, Mark
> >
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com 
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at 
> > meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great 
> > seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones 
> > elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
> > Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
> > Mike Farmer
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Carothers
or how about just asking permission to use the photo?

Dave Carothers

> From: "Jim Strope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a
photo
> from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own
> servers.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim,

OUTSTANDING!  That was a well executed move!  I salute you!


Original Message:
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From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:29:08 -0500
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!


Here is the original photo that was linked directly:
http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif

I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my 
website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to 
just upload a new photo under the same URL.

There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a
photo 
from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own 
servers.

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com


>mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006


> Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done.
> (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they 
> got all they deserve!)
> Best, Mark
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com 
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at 
> meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
> http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great 
> seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones 
> elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
> Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
> Mike Farmer
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Michael L Blood
WHAT link?
If he has a link to someone else's web site and is doing it covertly
to promote his sale is that a violation of IMCA rules?
Michael

on 12/12/06 7:29 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558
> This idiot looks like a great seller!
> It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction
> to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
> 
> Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
> 
> Mike Farmer
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Michael L Blood
What did you link it to? I just checked his ad and the photo is
the same...
Michael

on 12/12/06 8:29 AM, Jim Strope at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Here is the original photo that was linked directly:
> http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif
> 
> I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my
> website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to
> just upload a new photo under the same URL.
> 
> There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo
> from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own
> servers.
> 
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV  26038
> 
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> 
> 
>> mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006
> 
> 
>> Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done.
>> (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they
>> got all they deserve!)
>> Best, Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at
>> meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great
>> seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones
>> elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
>> Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
>> Mike Farmer
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Jim Strope
Michael and list members...

He finally saw the light and uploaded the Sikhote-alin strewnfield photo to 
his server instead of just linking to my website.

The joke photo for those of you, like Michael, who did not see it was:

http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4.gif


Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Strope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" 

Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!


> What did you link it to? I just checked his ad and the photo is
> the same...
>Michael
>
> on 12/12/06 8:29 AM, Jim Strope at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Here is the original photo that was linked directly:
>> http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif
>>
>> I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from 
>> my
>> website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting 
>> to
>> just upload a new photo under the same URL.
>>
>> There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a 
>> photo
>> from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own
>> servers.
>>
>> Jim Strope
>> 421 Fourth Street
>> Glen Dale, WV  26038
>>
>> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
>>
>>
>>> mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006
>>
>>
>>> Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done.
>>> (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so 
>>> they
>>> got all they deserve!)
>>> Best, Mark
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at
>>> meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great 
>>> auction!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great
>>> seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to 
>>> someones
>>> elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
>>> Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
>>> Mike Farmer
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:36:18 -0500, you wrote:

>Michael and list members...
>
>He finally saw the light and uploaded the Sikhote-alin strewnfield photo to 
>his server instead of just linking to my website.

I actually messaged the guy saying "nice family photo" not because I wanted to
be a party-pooper, but because what's the fun if he doesn't see the photo, too?

Here's the reply that he sent:

>I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw image and I 
>didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking... 
>The insertion was placed on ebay.co.uk and there was no problems from european 
>ebay servers.
>Anyway I fixed the problem. Thanks for looking.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Notkin
Jim Strope wrote:

> The joke photo for those of you, like Michael, who did not see it was:
>
> http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4.gif


Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new 
photo at your own URL.

What a lark, as we used to say in England  : )


Cheers,

Geoff N.
www.aerolite.org

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:52:51 -0700, you wrote:


>Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new 
>photo at your own URL.
>

That actually isn't that uncommon a practice.  People often tend to be much more
graphic, though, using for the replacement photo "goatse" or "tubgirl".
(Whatever you do-- do not search google images for those-- and when you do,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Geoff,
Don't you think it was particularly courageous of him to
include a photo of his own sister and brother in law?
Michael

on 12/12/06 2:52 PM, Notkin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jim Strope wrote:
> 
>> The joke photo for those of you, like Michael, who did not see it was:
>> 
>> http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4.gif
> 
> 
> Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new
> photo at your own URL.
> 
> What a lark, as we used to say in England  : )
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Geoff N.
> www.aerolite.org
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Steve Schoner

>[meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

>Michael Farmer
>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:32:13 -0800

>http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558
>This idiot looks like a great seller!
>It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction
>to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!

>Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.

>Mike Farmer

---


Probably just an oversight by this person, linking to another dealer's
site.  Simple, he should have downloaded the photo to his own site and
uploaded it directly to eBay.  I would not count it as a reason for
suspension of a IMCA member.  Just a simple notice that it is
"impolite" to link to another dealer's website.

Also, not noted is that this photo is not copyrighted.  I think I have
seen it in Krinov's books and it is public domain.

More importantly, if the photo is copyrighted it is not polite to use
it without the owner's permission.

Steve Schoner
IMCA #4470
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

Dear Darren;
Isn't the freedom of the internet a wonderful thing.  Everyone doing 
everything!

Dave F.

Darren Garrison wrote:


On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:52:51 -0700, you wrote:


 

Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new 
photo at your own URL.


   



That actually isn't that uncommon a practice.  People often tend to be much more
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(Whatever you do-- do not search google images for those-- and when you do,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

WHO IS PROUD TOM?He never exposed himself (herself) at Tucson Show.
Dave F.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Impactika
 
 
In a message dated 12/12/2006 2:09:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

WHAT  link?
If he has a link to someone else's web  site and is doing it covertly
to promote his sale is that a violation of  IMCA rules?
Michael

on 12/12/06 7:29 AM,  Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558
> This idiot looks like a  great seller!
> It seems that stealing photos by linking your  auction
> to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
>  
> Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
> 
> Mike  Farmer


Hello Michael, Mike, and List Members,
 
We, the IMCA Board and Members, can try our best to police Authenticity,  and 
ethical business practices, but it is very difficult to police poor judgment  
and lack of common sense.
You might have noticed that his price for that Sikhote-Alin is also totally  
out of line. 
 
My suggestion: Don't bid on it!  
By now he might have noticed that Jim has switched the picture (Very good  
move Jim!), so that and the lack of bids might get him to realize that he  did 
something wrong. 
 
And maybe the Italian members of the IMCA will decide to help him  privately. 

 
Anne M.  Black
_www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Mike Spammer its only good to give a idiot to all not
have the same idea he have.

Matteo

--- Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:

> WHAT link?
> If he has a link to someone else's web site
> and is doing it covertly
> to promote his sale is that a violation of IMCA
> rules?
> Michael
> 
> on 12/12/06 7:29 AM, Michael Farmer at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558
> > This idiot looks like a great seller!
> > It seems that stealing photos by linking your
> auction
> > to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY!
> > 
> > Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today.
> > 
> > Mike Farmer
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!

2006-12-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:54:34 GMT, you wrote:

>suspension of a IMCA member.  Just a simple notice that it is
>"impolite" to link to another dealer's website.

I would venture a guess that most people really don't stop to think about there
being any problem with linking to a photo on a web site, or think about
bandwidth costs.  After all, most people don't run web sites or pay for
bandwidth, so they don't even realize that peope have to pay for it.  You don't
have to pay to use MySpace or any of the other past and present free web sites,
and that is about the only experence people have with making a web page.  

For instance, 20 MB of web space comes free with my broadband account.  All the
times I've posted documents and photos and videos for access by the mailing
list, I put it in that space.  I don't know how much it is accessed, I don't
know who accesses it, and I don't even know how/what softwere to use to find out
from where each file is accessed.  If Charter has any type of bandwidth
restrictions on the free space, I've never read it, or heard complaints about me
overusing it, so I don't even think about it.
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[meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! I'm the bandwidth stealer!

2006-12-13 Thread Dave
Hi list members!

I'm the seller "Basilicofresco". Yes, the bandwidth stealer!
First of all I wish to express my apologies to Jim Strope for the 
direct linking of the image of one Sikote Alin crater.
When I wrote the auction layout in Turbolister I direct linked the 
image in order to immediately see how well it fit.
On 5 December I read about the special discount on insertion fees and 
I hurriedly put the auction on ebay. I simply forgot to replace the url.

I did not ask the permission for three reasons: the image was 
copyright-free, I really don't need image hosting because I have my 
own website without any traffic limit and I did not realized I was 
still direct linking the image.

I don't read the meteorite-list and I corrected the problem as soon 
some collectors warned me. If Jim would have sent me a message I 
would immediately remove the direct link. I hope the extra traffic 
(about 5MB) didn't cause you any significant damage.

By the way, nice joke Jim. (what an ugly couple!)

bye,

  > Dave <

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! I'm the bandwidth stealer!

2006-12-13 Thread Jim Strope
Hi Dave...

No Problem.  I don't mind anyone taking images from my website, even the 
photos that I take myself.  However, it is best if the images are downloaded 
to the users servers rather than just hotlinking.

Here is a humorous website that I found today concerning "hotlinking":

http://www.cockeyed.com/pranks/imposter/imposter.html

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Davide Bolsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:15 AM
Subject: Look at this great auction! I'm the bandwidth stealer!


> Hi list members!
>
> I'm the seller "Basilicofresco". Yes, the bandwidth stealer!
> First of all I wish to express my apologies to Jim Strope for the direct 
> linking of the image of one Sikote Alin crater.
> When I wrote the auction layout in Turbolister I direct linked the image 
> in order to immediately see how well it fit.
> On 5 December I read about the special discount on insertion fees and I 
> hurriedly put the auction on ebay. I simply forgot to replace the url.
>
> I did not ask the permission for three reasons: the image was 
> copyright-free, I really don't need image hosting because I have my own 
> website without any traffic limit and I did not realized I was still 
> direct linking the image.
>
> I don't read the meteorite-list and I corrected the problem as soon some 
> collectors warned me. If Jim would have sent me a message I would 
> immediately remove the direct link. I hope the extra traffic (about 5MB) 
> didn't cause you any significant damage.
>
> By the way, nice joke Jim. (what an ugly couple!)
>
> bye,
>
>  > Dave <
> 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! I'm the bandwidth stealer!

2006-12-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:05:19 -0500, you wrote:

>Here is a humorous website that I found today concerning "hotlinking":
>
>http://www.cockeyed.com/pranks/imposter/imposter.html
>

Here's a photo I saved from a few months back that was replaced on a web forum.
It was (not that memory serves me, but judging from the file name) supposed to
be a picture of the Hamburglar before the replacement:

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/hamburglar.jpg
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