Re: [meteorite-list] Lunars for peanuts
I certainly agree with you, Laurence. When I got started in this world of meteorites in 1998 there were really only 2 planetaries known, Calcalong and Nakhla, both mostly unobtainable, then a few more were found, DAG 400 and NWA 482 for instance, then a few more, and even more. Now there are hundreds, even without counting the pairings, and even more will certainly be discovered in the future. So, yes, it is a typical case of supply and demand and now supply far outnumbers the demand. So only a few, mostly Nakhla and Calcalong, will retain their value because of historical factors, the others will keep losing their value as they become more common. Not a good investment. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Laurence Garvie via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, May 30, 2015 12:08 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunars for peanuts I know of relatively large lunars that are being offered at around $50/g and not being bought (1 kg stones). There seem to be a plethora of Lunars and Martians. Nice shergottites could be had from the 2015 Tucson show for around $80/g. In the last year, the NomCom has approved 35 lunars (over 16 kg) and 19 martians (around 2 kg). Personally, given the huge numbers of Lunars being classified, I expect the price to be at the $50/g range or lower in the near future - somewhere in the range of the HEDS. Laurence -- Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie Research Professor and Collections Manager Center for Meteorite Studies Arizona State University ISTB4, BLDG 75 781 East Terrace Rd Tempe AZ 85287-6004 USA phone +480 965 3361 fax +480 965 8102 School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ --- -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:46:08 -0700 From: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Message-ID: 20150529134608.e8713c95af9984a493c5db01816d4c10.37441c22c4@email22.secureserver.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Listers I am starting to see a trend with Lunar and Martian meteorites, but especial with Lunar's. Some can be had for $300 per gram or less, or some times on ebay you can get a steal on some of the 1g plus sizes for less then $400 a gram. But again at the sub gram leave the price is still in the high $500 to $800 per gram which is expected at that size. My question is, is there new product on the market or has planataries shifted in value? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com -- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:13:11 -0400 From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Message-ID: cakbpjw_6yvkqtke+1wqdtaxzxluyr4c3qmdt1xd23qnohbg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Shawn, I think most of what we are seeing is supply and demand at work. As time goes on, more and more planetaries are coming out of the hot deserts, especially the NWA DCA. In recent months, we have seen over a dozen new planetaries (including several lunars) that have been approved in the Met Bulletin. New collectors are coming in to the hobby on a regular basis, but the supply of planetaries available to these collectors has stayed steady or increased. Old offerings are absorbed into collections and vanish from the open market, but they are replaced with numerous new offerings that are being sold by an ever-increasing number of dealers. In the past, the majority of planetaries were held by a relatively-small group of veteran dealers. Now, there are many middle/moderate-size dealers who are offering lunars and Martians. In order to be competitive, dealers need to better control the supply/market (not likely) or lower prices to attract buyers to these new planetaries - many of which are not that remarkable in comparison to previous offerings. For every new Nakhlite or Black Beauty, there are a dozen new (sometimes unpaired) shergottites hitting the market. I won't mention names, but there are a couple of big collector/dealers who are buying up multiple planetary masses in recent years and the majority of that material does not appear to have hit the open market yet. If that material is ever released into the market, it would
[meteorite-list] Lunars for peanuts
I know of relatively large lunars that are being offered at around $50/g and not being bought (1 kg stones). There seem to be a plethora of Lunars and Martians. Nice shergottites could be had from the 2015 Tucson show for around $80/g. In the last year, the NomCom has approved 35 lunars (over 16 kg) and 19 martians (around 2 kg). Personally, given the huge numbers of Lunars being classified, I expect the price to be at the $50/g range or lower in the near future - somewhere in the range of the HEDS. Laurence -- Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie Research Professor and Collections Manager Center for Meteorite Studies Arizona State University ISTB4, BLDG 75 781 East Terrace Rd Tempe AZ 85287-6004 USA phone +480 965 3361 fax +480 965 8102 School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ --- -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:46:08 -0700 From: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Message-ID: 20150529134608.e8713c95af9984a493c5db01816d4c10.37441c22c4@email22.secureserver.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Listers I am starting to see a trend with Lunar and Martian meteorites, but especial with Lunar's. Some can be had for $300 per gram or less, or some times on ebay you can get a steal on some of the 1g plus sizes for less then $400 a gram. But again at the sub gram leave the price is still in the high $500 to $800 per gram which is expected at that size. My question is, is there new product on the market or has planataries shifted in value? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com -- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:13:11 -0400 From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Message-ID: cakbpjw_6yvkqtke+1wqdtaxzxluyr4c3qmdt1xd23qnohbg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Shawn, I think most of what we are seeing is supply and demand at work. As time goes on, more and more planetaries are coming out of the hot deserts, especially the NWA DCA. In recent months, we have seen over a dozen new planetaries (including several lunars) that have been approved in the Met Bulletin. New collectors are coming in to the hobby on a regular basis, but the supply of planetaries available to these collectors has stayed steady or increased. Old offerings are absorbed into collections and vanish from the open market, but they are replaced with numerous new offerings that are being sold by an ever-increasing number of dealers. In the past, the majority of planetaries were held by a relatively-small group of veteran dealers. Now, there are many middle/moderate-size dealers who are offering lunars and Martians. In order to be competitive, dealers need to better control the supply/market (not likely) or lower prices to attract buyers to these new planetaries - many of which are not that remarkable in comparison to previous offerings. For every new Nakhlite or Black Beauty, there are a dozen new (sometimes unpaired) shergottites hitting the market. I won't mention names, but there are a couple of big collector/dealers who are buying up multiple planetary masses in recent years and the majority of that material does not appear to have hit the open market yet. If that material is ever released into the market, it would depress the asking prices even further. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 5/29/15, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I am starting to see a trend with Lunar and Martian meteorites, but especial with Lunar's. Some can be had for $300 per gram or less, or some times on ebay you can get a steal on some of the 1g plus sizes for less then $400 a gram. But again at the sub gram leave the price is still in the high $500 to $800 per gram which is expected at that size. My question is, is there new product on the market or has planataries shifted in value? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunars for peanuts
It is interesting that a planetary scientist would go as far as grouping all lunar meteorites under one price like some kind of commodity. Lunar and Martian meteorites have considerable diversity and one price doesn't fit all.Imagine if collectors based their prices on the cheapest Pallasite which is about a $1.00 a gram and tried to apply this same price to Esquel. 16 kilograms, is that all? There are several metric tons of gold and diamonds being mined every year. $60.00 a barrel for oil which still translate to over $3.00 a gallon at the pump. Oil is a commodity which is largely controlled by the producers. Anybody trying to commoditize meteorites is out of touch, Adam __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunars for peanuts
I know of relatively large lunars that are being offered at around $50/g and not being bought (1 kg stones). There seem to be a plethora of Lunars and Martians. Nice shergottites could be had from the 2015 Tucson show for around $80/g. In the last year, the NomCom has approved 35 lunars (over 16 kg) and 19 martians (around 2 kg). Personally, given the huge numbers of Lunars being classified, I expect the price to be at the $50/g range or lower in the near future - somewhere in the range of the HEDS. Laurence -- Dr. Laurence A.J. Garvie Research Professor and Collections Manager Center for Meteorite Studies Arizona State University ISTB4, BLDG 75 781 East Terrace Rd Tempe AZ 85287-6004 USA phone +480 965 3361 fax +480 965 8102 School of Earth and Space Exploration: http://sese.asu.edu/ Center for Meteorite Studies: http://meteorites.asu.edu/ --- -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:46:08 -0700 From: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Message-ID: 20150529134608.e8713c95af9984a493c5db01816d4c10.37441c22c4@email22.secureserver.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Listers I am starting to see a trend with Lunar and Martian meteorites, but especial with Lunar's. Some can be had for $300 per gram or less, or some times on ebay you can get a steal on some of the 1g plus sizes for less then $400 a gram. But again at the sub gram leave the price is still in the high $500 to $800 per gram which is expected at that size. My question is, is there new product on the market or has planataries shifted in value? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com -- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:13:11 -0400 From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorites selling for peanuts Message-ID: cakbpjw_6yvkqtke+1wqdtaxzxluyr4c3qmdt1xd23qnohbg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Shawn, I think most of what we are seeing is supply and demand at work. As time goes on, more and more planetaries are coming out of the hot deserts, especially the NWA DCA. In recent months, we have seen over a dozen new planetaries (including several lunars) that have been approved in the Met Bulletin. New collectors are coming in to the hobby on a regular basis, but the supply of planetaries available to these collectors has stayed steady or increased. Old offerings are absorbed into collections and vanish from the open market, but they are replaced with numerous new offerings that are being sold by an ever-increasing number of dealers. In the past, the majority of planetaries were held by a relatively-small group of veteran dealers. Now, there are many middle/moderate-size dealers who are offering lunars and Martians. In order to be competitive, dealers need to better control the supply/market (not likely) or lower prices to attract buyers to these new planetaries - many of which are not that remarkable in comparison to previous offerings. For every new Nakhlite or Black Beauty, there are a dozen new (sometimes unpaired) shergottites hitting the market. I won't mention names, but there are a couple of big collector/dealers who are buying up multiple planetary masses in recent years and the majority of that material does not appear to have hit the open market yet. If that material is ever released into the market, it would depress the asking prices even further. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 5/29/15, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I am starting to see a trend with Lunar and Martian meteorites, but especial with Lunar's. Some can be had for $300 per gram or less, or some times on ebay you can get a steal on some of the 1g plus sizes for less then $400 a gram. But again at the sub gram leave the price is still in the high $500 to $800 per gram which is expected at that size. My question is, is there new product on the market or has planataries shifted in value? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store
