[meteorite-list] Magnetic Meteorites

2007-12-03 Thread Peter A Shugar
If someone with the equipment will cut me a one inch long,  quarter inch 
square piece of either
an Odessa, Nantan, Gibeon, Sikhote Alin, or Campo, then I shall retire to my 
laboratory and conduct

the requisite experiments to answer, hopefully, the question at hand.
Pete 


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[meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Murray

Hi List,
I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be  
magnetic.  Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a  
meteorite(s).   Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer  
information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures)  
of such an iron?  Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right?   
If you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am  
interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion  
crust.  I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is.


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Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike,
~92% of all meteorites are magnetic; all irons, all stony irons, and
nearly all stones are magnetic.
The only meteorites that are not magnetic would be the HED's (some of
these are slightly magentic), as well as Aubrites (though some of
these contain iron as well), planetary meteorites (oftentimes
*slightly* attracted to a neodymium magnet, though one should never
poke such meteorites with a magnet), and Rumuruti chondrites (in this
case, because most of the iron is contained within iron sulfide, and
is thus non-magnetic).
Depending on the stone, a few carbonaceous meteorites are lightly
magnetic, but in general, they tend to be magnetic as well.
Almost all meteorites are magnetic...I don't know where you heard
otherwise, but...yeah.
Regards,
Jason

On Dec 2, 2007 4:43 PM, Michael Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List,
 I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be
 magnetic.  Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a
 meteorite(s).   Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer
 information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures)
 of such an iron?  Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right?
 If you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am
 interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion
 crust.  I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is.

 Mike Murray
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Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Ken Newton

Hi Michael,
Magnetic can mean more than one thing:
1.of or pertaining to a magnet or magnetism.
2.having the properties of a magnet.
3.capable of being magnetized or attracted by a magnet.
4.pertaining to the magnetic field of the earth: the magnetic equator.
5.exerting a strong attractive power or charm: a magnetic personality.
6.noting or pertaining to various bearings and measurements as 
indicated by a magnetic compass: magnetic amplitude; magnetic course; 
magnetic meridian.


The definition pertaining to meteorites is #3 not #2.
Best,
ken



Michael Murray wrote:

Hi List,
I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be 
magnetic.  Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a 
meteorite(s).   Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer 
information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures) of 
such an iron?  Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right?  If 
you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am 
interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion 
crust.  I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is.


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Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Murray

Hi Jason, List
Perhaps I used the wrong word when I wrote magnetic.  What I was  
looking for was info on meteorites that are magnets.


Sorry 'bout that
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Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Jerry
It is my understanding that most iron objects are susceptible to being 
magnitized, turned into magnets, if exposed to a strong magnetic field. So 
if a meteorite containing iron is exposed to strong ENOUGH magnets for long 
ENOUGH [note the qualifying capitalization], under the RIGHT circunstances 
it would not be impossible for SOME to become magnets.

Jerry Flaherty
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Hi Jason, List
Perhaps I used the wrong word when I wrote magnetic.  What I was 
looking for was info on meteorites that are magnets.


Sorry 'bout that
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Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Murray

Hi Ken, Jerry, List,
I have seen pieces of man-made iron and pieces of magnetite become  
slightly magnetic after being exposed to the supermagnet I use to  
hunt with.  Although, I have not seen either become what I would call  
magnets afterwards.  I have something a little different and am just  
trying to get it sorted.  Thanks for the responses and helping me  
with that.


I would still be interested in seeing a kamacite piece with flow  
features if anyone has pictures or a link they could point me to.


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[meteorite-list] Magnetic Meteorites?

2007-12-02 Thread Peter A Shugar

I am new to the list. I've been reading the list for about a month now.
I just wanted to weigh in on the magnetic meteorite.
I am a retired Electronics Engineer, so this is somewhat in my field
of expertise.

From what I know, when you say all meteorites are magnetic, what you mean

is the meteorites are attracted to a magnet. Under the right conditions any
meteorite containing Iron can be made magnetic by stroking the meteorite
repeatedly in the same direction, or alternately, putting the meteorite in 
the center

of a large coil of wire and passing a DC voltage thru the coil.
I have just begun to collect meteorites Texas meteorites in the range of 1 
to 3 grams.
I bow to those with more knowledge about meteorite for the rest of the 
comments.

I hope this helps.
de Pete 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-20 Thread MexicoDoug
En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 6:49:39 PM Mexico Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:

Have you seen a meteorite that attracts some other form of  metal?

Bob, They are definitely the most magnetic rocks in our universe.   Hope this 
sheds light on some of the other forms you are after: most  meteorites 
attract magnets, gold, silver, brass, copper, zinc, bills, and  electronic 
moneys, 
credit cards, paypals, money burning holes in pockets,  reporters, students, 
scientists, sky gazers, lovers (at Monze time!), birthday  boys and girls, 
gift givers, Dads (and Moms), kids, folks, curiosity seekers,  collectors, 
entrepreneurs, aventure seekers, hunters and providers, braggarts,  dogs, 
German and 
Canadian cats, space fans, auctioneers, anomalous friends,  gamblers, 
speculators, maniacs and fools alike.   It is that universal  attraction that 
makes 
them so special...Doug (typed oh so proudly from The  United Mexican States).


Bob Evans kindly quizzed:

Sorry Little  Dougie,

But here in the states Magnetic means  having magnetic  properties .
I think they're implying that the material attracts  iron.
Have you seen a meteorite that attracts some other form of metal?  Please 
enlighten me, my friend south of the border

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[meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread Bob Evans
With all due respect Steve
You claimed that your new meteorite is very magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated debate.
From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties of a magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably not !!
I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
Is there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can attract 
Iron magnetically?

Thanks
Bob Evans
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Subject: [meteorite-list] colorado iron meteorite??


Hi and good evening list.I just received my COLORADO IRON METEORITEfrom
COLDZAP of ebay.The piece I got is 100.3 grams!It is very magnetic,with
hints of fusion crust all over,with the bottom having a type of dirty
varnish on it.I'll have a picture of it on my home page in a little
while.I hope to sand a little of it off and see what is inside.Hopefully
good news!
 steve arnold, chicago
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Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
Illinois Meteorites
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/





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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Steve, you're fine.  Generally with meteorites the more strongly  magnetic 
the specimen the more iron metal.  There are some many uses of the  word 
magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge Encyclopedia of  
Meteorites 
that it sounds like you might be able to give Bob Evans some help on  the 
concept.  Saludos, Doug
PS  I have a meteorite that is a magnet.  It's easy to make them  from most 
magnetic metals like your new meteorite.  Just store it with a  strong magnet 
attached for a while and even just filing it can make a magnetic  iron a 
permanent magnet right away.  It'll be weaker thanthe original  magnet, though. 
 
Mu Toluca got so magnetic it sticks to the  refrigerator door.  I was thinking 
sending a certain person one of these as  a peace offering:)  Other magnetic 
metals in the same sense as iron, are,  nickel, cobalt and gadolinium...the 
actual term is ferromagnetic.  Chromium  and Maganese are actually 
antiferromagnetic.
 
When someone says magnetic they are referring to any kind of magnetic  
property at all, not just the ability to sustain magnetic poles like a 
permanent  
magnet.  The correct word to describe that is that the material is  
magnetized.  Magnetized means it has the properties of a permanent  magnet/  
Magnetic 
means whatever the users wants remotely related to  magnets, the metals they 
attract, of the fields they produce, etc. etc.   Hope this clears it up until 
the 
next round...
Congrats on the new acquisition!  
Saludos, Doug
 
En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:49:27 PM Mexico Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
With all due respect  Steve

You claimed that your new meteorite is very  magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated  debate.
From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties  of a magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably  not !!
I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
Is  there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can attract  
Iron magnetically?

Thanks
Bob Evans
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread John Birdsell
Hi Doug, Steve  allDoug I think you may have really hit on 
something- Refrigerator Meteor-Magnets! Every refrigerator should have  
a coupleYou can etch them and use them to hold up your shopping 
list, chore list, etc.  I think we'll start offering them on ebay in the 
near future! Even better...Tom might be able to etch a picture of Granny 
on the meteorite and we could have etched-granny-meteorite-magnets for 
everyone's refrigerator!

Cheers  thanks for a great idea!
-John

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve, you're fine.  Generally with meteorites the more strongly  magnetic 
the specimen the more iron metal.  There are some many uses of the  word 
magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge Encyclopedia of  Meteorites 
that it sounds like you might be able to give Bob Evans some help on  the 
concept.  Saludos, Doug
PS  I have a meteorite that is a magnet.  It's easy to make them  from most 
magnetic metals like your new meteorite.  Just store it with a  strong magnet 
attached for a while and even just filing it can make a magnetic  iron a 
permanent magnet right away.  It'll be weaker thanthe original  magnet, though.  
Mu Toluca got so magnetic it sticks to the  refrigerator door.  I was thinking 
sending a certain person one of these as  a peace offering:)  Other magnetic 
metals in the same sense as iron, are,  nickel, cobalt and gadolinium...the 
actual term is ferromagnetic.  Chromium  and Maganese are actually 
antiferromagnetic.

When someone says magnetic they are referring to any kind of magnetic  
property at all, not just the ability to sustain magnetic poles like a permanent  
magnet.  The correct word to describe that is that the material is  
magnetized.  Magnetized means it has the properties of a permanent  magnet/  Magnetic 
means whatever the users wants remotely related to  magnets, the metals they 
attract, of the fields they produce, etc. etc.   Hope this clears it up until the 
next round...
Congrats on the new acquisition!  
Saludos, Doug

En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:49:27 PM Mexico Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
With all due respect  Steve

You claimed that your new meteorite is very  magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated  debate.
From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties  of a magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably  not !!
I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
Is  there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can attract  
Iron magnetically?

Thanks
Bob Evans
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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread Bob Evans
Sorry Little Dougie,
But here in the states Magnetic means  having magnetic properties .
I think they're implying that the material attracts iron.
Have you seen a meteorite that attracts some other form of metal? Please 
enlighten me, my friend south of the border

BE
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites


Steve, you're fine.  Generally with meteorites the more strongly  magnetic
the specimen the more iron metal.  There are some many uses of the  word
magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge Encyclopedia of 
Meteorites
that it sounds like you might be able to give Bob Evans some help on  the
concept.  Saludos, Doug
PS  I have a meteorite that is a magnet.  It's easy to make them  from 
most
magnetic metals like your new meteorite.  Just store it with a  strong 
magnet
attached for a while and even just filing it can make a magnetic  iron a
permanent magnet right away.  It'll be weaker thanthe original  magnet, 
though.
Mu Toluca got so magnetic it sticks to the  refrigerator door.  I was 
thinking
sending a certain person one of these as  a peace offering:)  Other 
magnetic
metals in the same sense as iron, are,  nickel, cobalt and 
gadolinium...the
actual term is ferromagnetic.  Chromium  and Maganese are actually
antiferromagnetic.

When someone says magnetic they are referring to any kind of magnetic
property at all, not just the ability to sustain magnetic poles like a 
permanent
magnet.  The correct word to describe that is that the material is
magnetized.  Magnetized means it has the properties of a permanent 
magnet/  Magnetic
means whatever the users wants remotely related to  magnets, the metals 
they
attract, of the fields they produce, etc. etc.   Hope this clears it up 
until the
next round...
Congrats on the new acquisition!
Saludos, Doug

En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:49:27 PM Mexico Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
With all due respect  Steve
You claimed that your new meteorite is very  magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated  debate.
From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties  of a 
magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably  not !!
I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
Is  there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can 
attract
Iron magnetically?

Thanks
Bob Evans
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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread David Freeman
Dear All,
How about an etching of Proud Tom for a  refrigerator magnet!
Dave
with the magnetic personality!
John Birdsell wrote:
Hi Doug, Steve  allDoug I think you may have really hit on 
something- Refrigerator Meteor-Magnets! Every refrigerator should 
have  a coupleYou can etch them and use them to hold up your 
shopping list, chore list, etc.  I think we'll start offering them on 
ebay in the near future! Even better...Tom might be able to etch a 
picture of Granny on the meteorite and we could have 
etched-granny-meteorite-magnets for everyone's refrigerator!

Cheers  thanks for a great idea!
-John

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve, you're fine.  Generally with meteorites the more strongly  
magnetic the specimen the more iron metal.  There are some many uses 
of the  word magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge 
Encyclopedia of  Meteorites that it sounds like you might be able to 
give Bob Evans some help on  the concept.  Saludos, Doug
PS  I have a meteorite that is a magnet.  It's easy to make them  
from most magnetic metals like your new meteorite.  Just store it 
with a  strong magnet attached for a while and even just filing it 
can make a magnetic  iron a permanent magnet right away.  It'll be 
weaker thanthe original  magnet, though.  Mu Toluca got so magnetic 
it sticks to the  refrigerator door.  I was thinking sending a 
certain person one of these as  a peace offering:)  Other magnetic 
metals in the same sense as iron, are,  nickel, cobalt and 
gadolinium...the actual term is ferromagnetic.  Chromium  and 
Maganese are actually antiferromagnetic.

When someone says magnetic they are referring to any kind of 
magnetic  property at all, not just the ability to sustain magnetic 
poles like a permanent  magnet.  The correct word to describe that is 
that the material is  magnetized.  Magnetized means it has the 
properties of a permanent  magnet/  Magnetic means whatever the users 
wants remotely related to  magnets, the metals they attract, of the 
fields they produce, etc. etc.   Hope this clears it up until the 
next round...
Congrats on the new acquisition!  Saludos, Doug

En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:49:27 PM Mexico Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
With all due respect  Steve

You claimed that your new meteorite is very  magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated  debate.
From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties  of 
a magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably  not !!
I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
Is  there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can 
attract  Iron magnetically?

Thanks
Bob Evans
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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread JKGwilliam
Steve, Bob, Doug et al,
Webster's College Dictionary says:
magnetic
1. of or pertaining to a magnet or magnetism.
2. having the properties of a magnet.
3. capable of being magnetized or attracted by a magnet.
The list of definitions go on even further but I think #3 answers the question.
Best,
JKG
At 05:49 PM 1/19/2005, Bob Evans wrote:
Sorry Little Dougie,
But here in the states Magnetic means  having magnetic properties .
I think they're implying that the material attracts iron.
Have you seen a meteorite that attracts some other form of metal? Please 
enlighten me, my friend south of the border

BE
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

Steve, you're fine.  Generally with meteorites the more strongly  magnetic
the specimen the more iron metal.  There are some many uses of the  word
magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge Encyclopedia of 
Meteorites
that it sounds like you might be able to give Bob Evans some help on  the
concept.  Saludos, Doug
PS  I have a meteorite that is a magnet.  It's easy to make them  from most
magnetic metals like your new meteorite.  Just store it with a  strong magnet
attached for a while and even just filing it can make a magnetic  iron a
permanent magnet right away.  It'll be weaker thanthe original  magnet, 
though.
Mu Toluca got so magnetic it sticks to the  refrigerator door.  I was 
thinking
sending a certain person one of these as  a peace offering:)  Other magnetic
metals in the same sense as iron, are,  nickel, cobalt and gadolinium...the
actual term is ferromagnetic.  Chromium  and Maganese are actually
antiferromagnetic.

When someone says magnetic they are referring to any kind of magnetic
property at all, not just the ability to sustain magnetic poles like a 
permanent
magnet.  The correct word to describe that is that the material is
magnetized.  Magnetized means it has the properties of a permanent 
magnet/  Magnetic
means whatever the users wants remotely related to  magnets, the metals they
attract, of the fields they produce, etc. etc.   Hope this clears it up 
until the
next round...
Congrats on the new acquisition!
Saludos, Doug

En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:49:27 PM Mexico Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
With all due respect  Steve
You claimed that your new meteorite is very  magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated  debate.
From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties  of a
magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably  not !!
I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
Is  there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can attract
Iron magnetically?
Thanks
Bob Evans
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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites

2005-01-19 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
Thanks John, I like to use the word magnetic for describing a meteorite only
because I type about one word a minute and I don't think someone should have
to say it is attracted to a magnet it just takes to long. We all know what
is meant when a list member says magnetic. Magnetic, magnetic magnetic, see
no one died from reading the word so we should let this topic rest forever!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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To: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites


 Steve, Bob, Doug et al,
 Webster's College Dictionary says:
 magnetic
 1. of or pertaining to a magnet or magnetism.
 2. having the properties of a magnet.
 3. capable of being magnetized or attracted by a magnet.
 The list of definitions go on even further but I think #3 answers the
question.

 Best,
 JKG

 At 05:49 PM 1/19/2005, Bob Evans wrote:
 Sorry Little Dougie,
 
 But here in the states Magnetic means  having magnetic properties .
 I think they're implying that the material attracts iron.
 Have you seen a meteorite that attracts some other form of metal? Please
 enlighten me, my friend south of the border
 
 BE
 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic meteorites
 
 
 Steve, you're fine.  Generally with meteorites the more strongly
magnetic
 the specimen the more iron metal.  There are some many uses of the  word
 magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge Encyclopedia of
 Meteorites
 that it sounds like you might be able to give Bob Evans some help on
the
 concept.  Saludos, Doug
 PS  I have a meteorite that is a magnet.  It's easy to make them  from
most
 magnetic metals like your new meteorite.  Just store it with a  strong
magnet
 attached for a while and even just filing it can make a magnetic  iron
a
 permanent magnet right away.  It'll be weaker thanthe original  magnet,
 though.
 Mu Toluca got so magnetic it sticks to the  refrigerator door.  I was
 thinking
 sending a certain person one of these as  a peace offering:)  Other
magnetic
 metals in the same sense as iron, are,  nickel, cobalt and
gadolinium...the
 actual term is ferromagnetic.  Chromium  and Maganese are actually
 antiferromagnetic.
 
 When someone says magnetic they are referring to any kind of magnetic
 property at all, not just the ability to sustain magnetic poles like a
 permanent
 magnet.  The correct word to describe that is that the material is
 magnetized.  Magnetized means it has the properties of a permanent
 magnet/  Magnetic
 means whatever the users wants remotely related to  magnets, the metals
they
 attract, of the fields they produce, etc. etc.   Hope this clears it up
 until the
 next round...
 Congrats on the new acquisition!
 Saludos, Doug
 
 En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:49:27 PM Mexico Standard Time,
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 With all due respect  Steve
 
 You claimed that your new meteorite is very  magnetic.
 That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated  debate.
  From what I understand  Magnetic  means having the properties  of a
 magnet.
 Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
 Probably  not !!
 I see this used all of the time, so, am I missing something ?
 Is  there some meteorite out there that I've never heard of that can
attract
 Iron magnetically?
 
 Thanks
 Bob Evans
 
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[meteorite-list] Magnetic Meteorites!

2005-01-06 Thread Chauncey Walden
Dear Dave and Doug,
Maybe they all saw The Magnetic Monster when they were kids. Anyone 
else remember that one? Dating myself...
Chauncey

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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic Meteorites!

2005-01-06 Thread David Freeman
Dear Chauncey;
I miss Bill Nye  the science guy...now there was a magnetic personality!
I am spending the rest of the afternoon going through my NWA collection 
to actually see how many will stick on the refrigerator door as true 
magnets would.

...as I return to line dancing with magnets in the forest of silent 
falling trees, ok Doug?
Saloutosyoutoes
Dave F.

Chauncey Walden wrote:
Dear Dave and Doug,
Maybe they all saw The Magnetic Monster when they were kids. Anyone 
else remember that one? Dating myself...
Chauncey

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[meteorite-list] Magnetic Meteorites

2002-11-14 Thread Ron Baalke


http://physicsweb.org/article/news/6/11/8

Magnetic meteorites
Belle Dume
PhysicsWeb
13 November 2002 

Physicists and geologists at Trinity College in Dublin have found new evidence
for the existence of magnetism in carbon by examining a meteorite that
crashed into the Arizona desert some 50,000 years ago. Michael Coey and
colleagues examined fragments from the Canyon Diablo meteorite and found
that only about two-thirds of the magnetization could be accounted for by the
magnetic minerals present in the sample. This means, they say, that the rest
of the magnetization is somehow associated with the carbon in the meteoritic
graphite nodule (JMD Coey et al. 2002 Nature 420 156) 

The magnetic properties of carbon-60 compounds have intrigued physicists since
they were first reported in 1991 and researchers have recently discovered weak
magnetic behaviour in polymerised rhomohedral carbon-60. Ferromagnetism has
previously been observed in other carbon-based ferromagnets, but only at very low
temperatures. However, the weakness of the effect makes it difficult to determine
the origins of the magnetism - it could be intrinsic or it might be caused by minute
concentrations of iron-rich impurities in the samples. 

Coey and co-workers characterised the magnetism associated with the
ferromagnetic phases in their samples using Mossbauer spectroscopy, chemical
analysis and a combination of scanning electron microscopy and X-ray diffraction
analysis. From the Mossbauer results, they determined the concentration of the
ferromagnetic minerals in each of the graphitic samples and calculated their
combined contribution to the magnetization. 

The observed magnetization, however, significantly exceeded the magnetization
that was due to these magnetic phases. The researchers attribute this difference to
the graphite. They calculate the average room temperature magnetization of carbon
to be 23.1 Am2 kg-1, which corresponds to 0.05 Bohr magnetons per atom. By
comparison the figure for iron is 2.2 Bohr magnetons per atom. 

The results raise the question of the origin of the ferromagnetism. It could be that
meteoritic graphite differs from its terrestrial counterpart because of the way it was
formed or changes it underwent when it landed on Earth. The shock of this impact
could produce defects, which are known to increase the magnetic susceptibility of
graphite. Another possibility is that the dispersed nanocrystalline ferromagnetic
phases induce a magnetic moment in the graphite. The researchers suggest a
magnetic proximity effect induced at the border between the graphite and the
magnetic materials as a possible explanation. 

Whatever its origin, the implications of ferromagnetic carbon are likely to be
far-reaching. This material could, for example, be used as a high-temperature
ferromagnetic semiconductor or in spintronic applications. 


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