Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety, or Terrorism Concerns
Hi Listees and Adam, I agree. None of our urban centers are safe and Mexico can now boast 100,000 dead in the last six years attributed to the murderous regimes of the drug cartels. What is remarkable is that this information is sat on by the main stream media and our politicians. What would we think if Canada had such problems and their citizens were fleeing en mass illegally into our cities? Back on subject. Do come out to Nevada to hunt meteorites. It's practically untouched. I'm waiting to see the next planetary come off one of the hundreds of our dry lakes. The Feds and the BLM are very lax on enforcement and can't patrol without being seen well in advance. Jusy be polite and don't trash the place. The locals are laid back and consider your activities as entertainment and interesting. Your few dollars spent in their remote businesses is appreciated. Count Deiro (A native Nevadan and proud of it.) -Original Message- >From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >Sent: Mar 24, 2015 10:15 AM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety, >or Terrorism Concerns > >You are correct that many inner city areas in the United States are >dangerous. Take Detroit, Michigan for instance where anybody that lives >there, who can, is fleeing and houses/businesses can be purchases for >$1,000.00 or less. Stockton and Oakland, California made the top ten >several years in a row and then there is Chicago, Illinois which is no safe >walk in the park either. Newark, New Jersey, no thanks! > >People ask why I moved out in the middle of nowhere seven years ago. One >reason was to get away from all of the weirdoes, tweekers, thieves and >freaks that large cities seem to attract here in the U.S. and the >Seattle/Tacoma area in Washington State is considered safe by American >standards? Give me rattle snakes and scorpions any day which are more >predictable than some of the crazies I have run into. > >I would feel a lot safer in the disputed zone between Morocco and Algeria >than along the U.S./Mexican border where dead bodies are piling up unchecked >at an alarming rate. > >Adam > > > > > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Marco Langbroek via Meteorite-list" > >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:51 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety, or >Terrorism Concerns > > >> >> As things stand, you face a decidedly higher risk loosing your life in the >> USA than in Morocco or Tunisia. >> >> It is funny that many Americans apparently do not realise that their own >> country is a lot less safe than many others. >> >> >>> Traveling anywhere including >>> just down the street isn't as safe as it >>> used to be. >> >> >> I disagree. In many areas of the World it is safer now than it ever was. >> >> Take my country: even though some politicians and media peddle the >> fear-factor here too, truth is crime and homicide rates have never been so >> low as they are today. >> >> Unfortunately, there are also a few areas in this world where the shit has >> hit the fan (but then: there always have been). And the media attention >> (and self-serving political image mongery) connected to that create an >> impression of an increasingly unsafe world, while in large parts of the >> world in fact there is an opposite trend. >> >> Don't buy into the fear-mongering (but do be sensible of where you go). >> >> - Marco >> >> >> - >> Dr Marco Langbroek >> >> e-mail: ma...@langbroek.org >> Twitter: @Marco_Langbroek >> - >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety, or Terrorism Concerns
You are correct that many inner city areas in the United States are dangerous. Take Detroit, Michigan for instance where anybody that lives there, who can, is fleeing and houses/businesses can be purchases for $1,000.00 or less. Stockton and Oakland, California made the top ten several years in a row and then there is Chicago, Illinois which is no safe walk in the park either. Newark, New Jersey, no thanks! People ask why I moved out in the middle of nowhere seven years ago. One reason was to get away from all of the weirdoes, tweekers, thieves and freaks that large cities seem to attract here in the U.S. and the Seattle/Tacoma area in Washington State is considered safe by American standards? Give me rattle snakes and scorpions any day which are more predictable than some of the crazies I have run into. I would feel a lot safer in the disputed zone between Morocco and Algeria than along the U.S./Mexican border where dead bodies are piling up unchecked at an alarming rate. Adam - Original Message - From: "Marco Langbroek via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety, or Terrorism Concerns As things stand, you face a decidedly higher risk loosing your life in the USA than in Morocco or Tunisia. It is funny that many Americans apparently do not realise that their own country is a lot less safe than many others. Traveling anywhere including just down the street isn't as safe as it used to be. I disagree. In many areas of the World it is safer now than it ever was. Take my country: even though some politicians and media peddle the fear-factor here too, truth is crime and homicide rates have never been so low as they are today. Unfortunately, there are also a few areas in this world where the shit has hit the fan (but then: there always have been). And the media attention (and self-serving political image mongery) connected to that create an impression of an increasingly unsafe world, while in large parts of the world in fact there is an opposite trend. Don't buy into the fear-mongering (but do be sensible of where you go). - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek e-mail: ma...@langbroek.org Twitter: @Marco_Langbroek - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety, or Terrorism Concerns
As things stand, you face a decidedly higher risk loosing your life in the USA than in Morocco or Tunisia. It is funny that many Americans apparently do not realise that their own country is a lot less safe than many others. Traveling anywhere including just down the street isn't as safe as it used to be. I disagree. In many areas of the World it is safer now than it ever was. Take my country: even though some politicians and media peddle the fear-factor here too, truth is crime and homicide rates have never been so low as they are today. Unfortunately, there are also a few areas in this world where the shit has hit the fan (but then: there always have been). And the media attention (and self-serving political image mongery) connected to that create an impression of an increasingly unsafe world, while in large parts of the world in fact there is an opposite trend. Don't buy into the fear-mongering (but do be sensible of where you go). - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek e-mail: ma...@langbroek.org Twitter: @Marco_Langbroek - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
I used to frequent a cafe in Marrakech when I was traveling to morocco every two weeks. That date was bombed a few years and several tourists died. I spent some time at the mall in Kenya that was attacked and nearly 100 people were killed in last year. It is eery knowing that these places where you have been many times are now gone or horrible things happened there. The Islamic countries are on fire. The insane jihadist people are on the loose. I'll pass on these crapholes until the lunatics are gone. Michael Farmer > On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > The entire world appears to be in chaos and international relationships are > at the worst since World War II but I would still feel safe gong to Morocco. > > Adam > > - Original Message - From: "Anne Black via Meteorite-list" > > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or > Terrorism Concerns > > >> Yes, but... >> >> Tunisia is one country I would have felt perfectly safe going back to. The >> Bardo Museum is one of the top museums for archaeology and mosaics. >> And look what happened. >> >> >> Anne M. Black >> www.IMPACTIKA.com >> impact...@aol.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: J Sinclair via Meteorite-list >> To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> Cc: Meteorite List >> Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:38 pm >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or >> Terrorism Concerns >> >> >> Mike, >> >> Morocco is where the concentration of the meteorite trading with >> our >> Country, the US, is taking place. There are many Moroccans that visit >> this >> country to sell at the two biggest gem, mineral and fossil shows >> here, Tucson >> and Denver. They have been coming for years, long before >> the large increase in >> the number of meteorites that are being found in >> the Sahara. With a passport >> and visa, there is free travel between our >> country and theirs. There are a lot >> of Americans that travel there. >> The country's abundance of minerals, fossils >> and meteorites make it a >> popular place for people that have an interest in >> natural history to >> travel to. >> >> A quick look at the list from the State >> Department doesn't list >> Morocco as a country with travel >> warnings. >> >> http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html >> >> In >> fact, the Meteoritical Society held its annual meeting in >> Casablanca just six >> months ago. It was attended by scientists and >> meteorite enthusiasts from around >> the world. >> >> Desert borders can be blurry though. Americans haven't been safe >> along >> some of those borders for decades. >> >> Is Morocco a place you would be >> afraid to go to? >> >> Morocco shouldn't be grouped with the countries that have >> travel >> warnings just because Morocco is on the same continent with them >> and >> because of theories about social tolerance and the opinion of it being >> a >> good place to strike Western interests. There are many places that >> fit that >> criteria. >> >> The US State Department does warn us about travel to Mexico, >> the >> Ukraine, Iraq, Haiti, Honduras, Columbia and many other places >> including >> some that you mention. Morocco isn't one of them. >> >> Terrorist events over the >> last few decades have shown us that we may >> not be safe in places like Boston, >> New York, Oklahoma City, Paris and >> many others. >> >> Traveling anywhere including >> just down the street isn't as safe as it >> used to be. Morocco is one place I >> would feel comfortable traveling >> to. Paris and Boston too. >> >> Best regards, >> John >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> via >> Meteorite-list wrote: >>> Hi >> List, >>> >>> Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I >> want >>> to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not >> want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. >>> >>> I have >> been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of >>> terrorist cells >> and training camps
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
Be it a mall, marathon run, school, subway or the middle of some desert--guaranteed safety can never be guaranteed---until every Fanatic is turned into fertilizer. Good luck on this. As some know, even "friendly" governments may put rockhounds in jail on trumpted up charges or fleece them for safe passage. There is no one answer---but fear only fuels the issue. Travel, enjoy and be safe. John - Original Message - From: "Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia,and Safety or Terrorism Concerns The entire world appears to be in chaos and international relationships are at the worst since World War II but I would still feel safe gong to Morocco. Adam - Original Message - From: "Anne Black via Meteorite-list" To: ; Cc: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns > Yes, but... > > Tunisia is one country I would have felt perfectly safe going back to. The > Bardo Museum is one of the top museums for archaeology and mosaics. > And look what happened. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: J Sinclair via Meteorite-list > To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > Cc: Meteorite List > Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:38 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or > Terrorism Concerns > > > Mike, > > Morocco is where the concentration of the meteorite trading with > our > Country, the US, is taking place. There are many Moroccans that visit > this > country to sell at the two biggest gem, mineral and fossil shows > here, Tucson > and Denver. They have been coming for years, long before > the large increase in > the number of meteorites that are being found in > the Sahara. With a passport > and visa, there is free travel between our > country and theirs. There are a lot > of Americans that travel there. > The country's abundance of minerals, fossils > and meteorites make it a > popular place for people that have an interest in > natural history to > travel to. > > A quick look at the list from the State > Department doesn't list > Morocco as a country with travel > warnings. > > http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html > > In > fact, the Meteoritical Society held its annual meeting in > Casablanca just six > months ago. It was attended by scientists and > meteorite enthusiasts from around > the world. > > Desert borders can be blurry though. Americans haven't been safe > along > some of those borders for decades. > > Is Morocco a place you would be > afraid to go to? > > Morocco shouldn't be grouped with the countries that have > travel > warnings just because Morocco is on the same continent with them > and > because of theories about social tolerance and the opinion of it being > a > good place to strike Western interests. There are many places that > fit that > criteria. > > The US State Department does warn us about travel to Mexico, > the > Ukraine, Iraq, Haiti, Honduras, Columbia and many other places > including > some that you mention. Morocco isn't one of them. > > Terrorist events over the > last few decades have shown us that we may > not be safe in places like Boston, > New York, Oklahoma City, Paris and > many others. > > Traveling anywhere including > just down the street isn't as safe as it > used to be. Morocco is one place I > would feel comfortable traveling > to. Paris and Boston too. > > Best regards, > John > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks > via > Meteorite-list wrote: >> Hi > List, >> >> Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I > want >> to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not >> > want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. >> >> I have > been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of >> terrorist cells > and training camps in the remotest regions of the >> Saharan Desert. It is no > surprise that parts of Egypt, Libya, >> Algeria, and Mali are used as havens or > hideouts for terrorists - >> these countries have had widely publicized problems > with terrorist >> activity, especially in the remote areas that are far from the > central >> government's control. >> >> However, up until recently (the last > several months), we have not >> heard much about
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
The entire world appears to be in chaos and international relationships are at the worst since World War II but I would still feel safe gong to Morocco. Adam - Original Message - From: "Anne Black via Meteorite-list" To: ; Cc: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns Yes, but... Tunisia is one country I would have felt perfectly safe going back to. The Bardo Museum is one of the top museums for archaeology and mosaics. And look what happened. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: J Sinclair via Meteorite-list To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns Mike, Morocco is where the concentration of the meteorite trading with our Country, the US, is taking place. There are many Moroccans that visit this country to sell at the two biggest gem, mineral and fossil shows here, Tucson and Denver. They have been coming for years, long before the large increase in the number of meteorites that are being found in the Sahara. With a passport and visa, there is free travel between our country and theirs. There are a lot of Americans that travel there. The country's abundance of minerals, fossils and meteorites make it a popular place for people that have an interest in natural history to travel to. A quick look at the list from the State Department doesn't list Morocco as a country with travel warnings. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html In fact, the Meteoritical Society held its annual meeting in Casablanca just six months ago. It was attended by scientists and meteorite enthusiasts from around the world. Desert borders can be blurry though. Americans haven't been safe along some of those borders for decades. Is Morocco a place you would be afraid to go to? Morocco shouldn't be grouped with the countries that have travel warnings just because Morocco is on the same continent with them and because of theories about social tolerance and the opinion of it being a good place to strike Western interests. There are many places that fit that criteria. The US State Department does warn us about travel to Mexico, the Ukraine, Iraq, Haiti, Honduras, Columbia and many other places including some that you mention. Morocco isn't one of them. Terrorist events over the last few decades have shown us that we may not be safe in places like Boston, New York, Oklahoma City, Paris and many others. Traveling anywhere including just down the street isn't as safe as it used to be. Morocco is one place I would feel comfortable traveling to. Paris and Boston too. Best regards, John On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi List, Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I want to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. I have been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of terrorist cells and training camps in the remotest regions of the Saharan Desert. It is no surprise that parts of Egypt, Libya, Algeria, and Mali are used as havens or hideouts for terrorists - these countries have had widely publicized problems with terrorist activity, especially in the remote areas that are far from the central government's control. However, up until recently (the last several months), we have not heard much about terrorist activity in Morocco and Mauritania. While Morocco is still considered mostly safe for Westerners, neighboring Mauritania keeps popping up in the media stories about Al-Qaeda and/or ISIS activity. A few known higher-level terrorists being tracked by Western intelligence services are known to have spent considerable time in Mauritania (ostensibly at training camps in the remote desert) before going abroad to carry out attacks. Morocco has a long-standing history of cooperation and honorable relations with the USA and that cooperation extends into the realm of military black ops and intelligence. Indeed, Morocco hosted a CIA "black site" for the "rendition" of terrorist suspects during the years after the 9/11 attacks. Theoretically, this close relationship with the West and social tolerance of Moroccan culture in general may make Morocco a very tempting target for terrorist cells looking to strike at Western interests, Western tourists, or secular/moderate Islamic regimes that the terrorist hardliners consider to be heretical. While Mauritania has been mostly safe in recent years, there are isolated incidents of violence against Westerners by Al-Qaeda-linked cells. Given the rec
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
Yes, but... Tunisia is one country I would have felt perfectly safe going back to. The Bardo Museum is one of the top museums for archaeology and mosaics. And look what happened. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: J Sinclair via Meteorite-list To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns Mike, Morocco is where the concentration of the meteorite trading with our Country, the US, is taking place. There are many Moroccans that visit this country to sell at the two biggest gem, mineral and fossil shows here, Tucson and Denver. They have been coming for years, long before the large increase in the number of meteorites that are being found in the Sahara. With a passport and visa, there is free travel between our country and theirs. There are a lot of Americans that travel there. The country's abundance of minerals, fossils and meteorites make it a popular place for people that have an interest in natural history to travel to. A quick look at the list from the State Department doesn't list Morocco as a country with travel warnings. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html In fact, the Meteoritical Society held its annual meeting in Casablanca just six months ago. It was attended by scientists and meteorite enthusiasts from around the world. Desert borders can be blurry though. Americans haven't been safe along some of those borders for decades. Is Morocco a place you would be afraid to go to? Morocco shouldn't be grouped with the countries that have travel warnings just because Morocco is on the same continent with them and because of theories about social tolerance and the opinion of it being a good place to strike Western interests. There are many places that fit that criteria. The US State Department does warn us about travel to Mexico, the Ukraine, Iraq, Haiti, Honduras, Columbia and many other places including some that you mention. Morocco isn't one of them. Terrorist events over the last few decades have shown us that we may not be safe in places like Boston, New York, Oklahoma City, Paris and many others. Traveling anywhere including just down the street isn't as safe as it used to be. Morocco is one place I would feel comfortable traveling to. Paris and Boston too. Best regards, John On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi List, > > Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I want > to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not > want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. > > I have been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of > terrorist cells and training camps in the remotest regions of the > Saharan Desert. It is no surprise that parts of Egypt, Libya, > Algeria, and Mali are used as havens or hideouts for terrorists - > these countries have had widely publicized problems with terrorist > activity, especially in the remote areas that are far from the central > government's control. > > However, up until recently (the last several months), we have not > heard much about terrorist activity in Morocco and Mauritania. While > Morocco is still considered mostly safe for Westerners, neighboring > Mauritania keeps popping up in the media stories about Al-Qaeda and/or > ISIS activity. A few known higher-level terrorists being tracked by > Western intelligence services are known to have spent considerable > time in Mauritania (ostensibly at training camps in the remote desert) > before going abroad to carry out attacks. > > Morocco has a long-standing history of cooperation and honorable > relations with the USA and that cooperation extends into the realm of > military black ops and intelligence. Indeed, Morocco hosted a CIA > "black site" for the "rendition" of terrorist suspects during the > years after the 9/11 attacks. Theoretically, this close relationship > with the West and social tolerance of Moroccan culture in general may > make Morocco a very tempting target for terrorist cells looking to > strike at Western interests, Western tourists, or secular/moderate > Islamic regimes that the terrorist hardliners consider to be > heretical. > > While Mauritania has been mostly safe in recent years, there are > isolated incidents of violence against Westerners by Al-Qaeda-linked > cells. Given the recent high-profile museum attack in Tunisia, does > this situation make any Western meteorite hunters nervous? Are the > more-remote regions of Morocco and/or Mauritania still safe for > Westerners? > > Are there any US or European hunters who have cance
Re: [meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
Mike, Morocco is where the concentration of the meteorite trading with our Country, the US, is taking place. There are many Moroccans that visit this country to sell at the two biggest gem, mineral and fossil shows here, Tucson and Denver. They have been coming for years, long before the large increase in the number of meteorites that are being found in the Sahara. With a passport and visa, there is free travel between our country and theirs. There are a lot of Americans that travel there. The country's abundance of minerals, fossils and meteorites make it a popular place for people that have an interest in natural history to travel to. A quick look at the list from the State Department doesn't list Morocco as a country with travel warnings. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html In fact, the Meteoritical Society held its annual meeting in Casablanca just six months ago. It was attended by scientists and meteorite enthusiasts from around the world. Desert borders can be blurry though. Americans haven't been safe along some of those borders for decades. Is Morocco a place you would be afraid to go to? Morocco shouldn't be grouped with the countries that have travel warnings just because Morocco is on the same continent with them and because of theories about social tolerance and the opinion of it being a good place to strike Western interests. There are many places that fit that criteria. The US State Department does warn us about travel to Mexico, the Ukraine, Iraq, Haiti, Honduras, Columbia and many other places including some that you mention. Morocco isn't one of them. Terrorist events over the last few decades have shown us that we may not be safe in places like Boston, New York, Oklahoma City, Paris and many others. Traveling anywhere including just down the street isn't as safe as it used to be. Morocco is one place I would feel comfortable traveling to. Paris and Boston too. Best regards, John On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi List, > > Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I want > to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not > want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. > > I have been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of > terrorist cells and training camps in the remotest regions of the > Saharan Desert. It is no surprise that parts of Egypt, Libya, > Algeria, and Mali are used as havens or hideouts for terrorists - > these countries have had widely publicized problems with terrorist > activity, especially in the remote areas that are far from the central > government's control. > > However, up until recently (the last several months), we have not > heard much about terrorist activity in Morocco and Mauritania. While > Morocco is still considered mostly safe for Westerners, neighboring > Mauritania keeps popping up in the media stories about Al-Qaeda and/or > ISIS activity. A few known higher-level terrorists being tracked by > Western intelligence services are known to have spent considerable > time in Mauritania (ostensibly at training camps in the remote desert) > before going abroad to carry out attacks. > > Morocco has a long-standing history of cooperation and honorable > relations with the USA and that cooperation extends into the realm of > military black ops and intelligence. Indeed, Morocco hosted a CIA > "black site" for the "rendition" of terrorist suspects during the > years after the 9/11 attacks. Theoretically, this close relationship > with the West and social tolerance of Moroccan culture in general may > make Morocco a very tempting target for terrorist cells looking to > strike at Western interests, Western tourists, or secular/moderate > Islamic regimes that the terrorist hardliners consider to be > heretical. > > While Mauritania has been mostly safe in recent years, there are > isolated incidents of violence against Westerners by Al-Qaeda-linked > cells. Given the recent high-profile museum attack in Tunisia, does > this situation make any Western meteorite hunters nervous? Are the > more-remote regions of Morocco and/or Mauritania still safe for > Westerners? > > Are there any US or European hunters who have canceled plans to hunt > for meteorites in Morocco, Mauritania, or Tunisia because of the > recent security concerns? And lastly, have there ever (or recently) > been any terrorist-type attacks or kidnappings against Western > meteorite hunters in the remote areas of Morocco or Mauritania? > > Best regards and Happy Safe Huntings, > > MikeG > > -- > - > Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone > - > ___
[meteorite-list] Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, and Safety or Terrorism Concerns
Hi List, Let me preface this - I do not want this to get political and I want to stick to how this situation impacts the meteorite world. I do not want to engage or ignite a discussion about religion or politics. I have been reading stories on the news wires about the operation of terrorist cells and training camps in the remotest regions of the Saharan Desert. It is no surprise that parts of Egypt, Libya, Algeria, and Mali are used as havens or hideouts for terrorists - these countries have had widely publicized problems with terrorist activity, especially in the remote areas that are far from the central government's control. However, up until recently (the last several months), we have not heard much about terrorist activity in Morocco and Mauritania. While Morocco is still considered mostly safe for Westerners, neighboring Mauritania keeps popping up in the media stories about Al-Qaeda and/or ISIS activity. A few known higher-level terrorists being tracked by Western intelligence services are known to have spent considerable time in Mauritania (ostensibly at training camps in the remote desert) before going abroad to carry out attacks. Morocco has a long-standing history of cooperation and honorable relations with the USA and that cooperation extends into the realm of military black ops and intelligence. Indeed, Morocco hosted a CIA "black site" for the "rendition" of terrorist suspects during the years after the 9/11 attacks. Theoretically, this close relationship with the West and social tolerance of Moroccan culture in general may make Morocco a very tempting target for terrorist cells looking to strike at Western interests, Western tourists, or secular/moderate Islamic regimes that the terrorist hardliners consider to be heretical. While Mauritania has been mostly safe in recent years, there are isolated incidents of violence against Westerners by Al-Qaeda-linked cells. Given the recent high-profile museum attack in Tunisia, does this situation make any Western meteorite hunters nervous? Are the more-remote regions of Morocco and/or Mauritania still safe for Westerners? Are there any US or European hunters who have canceled plans to hunt for meteorites in Morocco, Mauritania, or Tunisia because of the recent security concerns? And lastly, have there ever (or recently) been any terrorist-type attacks or kidnappings against Western meteorite hunters in the remote areas of Morocco or Mauritania? Best regards and Happy Safe Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
