Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite??? Don't think so
Hi Rob, I think you may be confusing NWA 3133 which plots in the CV zone according to oxygen isotope testing, not Angrites. Angrites do not plot anywhere near the CV3s. Best Regards, Adam --- Rob McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, though I'd love angrites to be shown to be > from > Mercury but I've looked at some of the papers and > they > sit neatly within the CV3 realm for oxygen isotope > and > thermal metamorphosing of CV3 seems to give a pretty > good approximation of angrites. I suspect angrites > are > not from Mercury (though angrite Tomassint [sp] gave > me enough doubt to make me buy some just in case) > Whatever their history, they appear to be the > differentiated part of the same body the CV3 > meteorites came from. > I still have some of the papers saved to my HD so if > anyone wants them I'll see if i can find them. > > Rob Mc > > > > > --- Rob Wesel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello Darren, List > > > > A 2007 paper was published in MAPS taking the > other > > side of the > > Angrite-Mercury hypothesis: > > > > Hutson, M.L. and A. Ruzicka (2007) The case > against > > Mercury as the angrite > > parent body. Meteoritics & Planetary Science 42, > > Abstract #5238 > > > > Here are the ones in favor: > > > > Unique Angrite, NWA 2999: The Case For Samples > From > > Mercury, A. Irving, S. > > Keuhner, D. Rumble, T. Bunch, J. Whittke, AGU, > 2005 > > Fall Meeting, Abstract > > #P51A-0898 > > > > S. M. Kuehner, A. J. Irving, T. E. Bunch, J. H. > > Wittke, G. M. Hupé & A. C. > > Hupé, 2006, Coronas and symplectites in plutonic > > angrite NWA 2999 and > > implications for Mercury as the angrite parent > body. > > Abstracts of the 37th > > Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, #1344 > > > > Debate continues to exist on the matter. The truth > > is we have no answer at > > this time, only a notion of what a Mercurian > > meteorite might contain. One > > day soon we will be able to compare gasses or even > > samples and then we'll > > have a much better model. > > > > Rob Wesel > > http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > > -- > > We are the music makers... > > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "LIST" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian > Meteorite > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >>So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say > > was a possible > > >>Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to > know! > > > > > > Those angerites are pretty mercurial. > > > > > > > http://meteoritestudies.com/protected_MERCURY.HTM > > > __ > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite??? Don't think so
Well, though I'd love angrites to be shown to be from Mercury but I've looked at some of the papers and they sit neatly within the CV3 realm for oxygen isotope and thermal metamorphosing of CV3 seems to give a pretty good approximation of angrites. I suspect angrites are not from Mercury (though angrite Tomassint [sp] gave me enough doubt to make me buy some just in case) Whatever their history, they appear to be the differentiated part of the same body the CV3 meteorites came from. I still have some of the papers saved to my HD so if anyone wants them I'll see if i can find them. Rob Mc --- Rob Wesel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Darren, List > > A 2007 paper was published in MAPS taking the other > side of the > Angrite-Mercury hypothesis: > > Hutson, M.L. and A. Ruzicka (2007) The case against > Mercury as the angrite > parent body. Meteoritics & Planetary Science 42, > Abstract #5238 > > Here are the ones in favor: > > Unique Angrite, NWA 2999: The Case For Samples From > Mercury, A. Irving, S. > Keuhner, D. Rumble, T. Bunch, J. Whittke, AGU, 2005 > Fall Meeting, Abstract > #P51A-0898 > > S. M. Kuehner, A. J. Irving, T. E. Bunch, J. H. > Wittke, G. M. Hupé & A. C. > Hupé, 2006, Coronas and symplectites in plutonic > angrite NWA 2999 and > implications for Mercury as the angrite parent body. > Abstracts of the 37th > Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, #1344 > > Debate continues to exist on the matter. The truth > is we have no answer at > this time, only a notion of what a Mercurian > meteorite might contain. One > day soon we will be able to compare gasses or even > samples and then we'll > have a much better model. > > Rob Wesel > http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "LIST" > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite > > > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0600, you wrote: > > > >>So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say > was a possible > >>Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! > > > > Those angerites are pretty mercurial. > > > > http://meteoritestudies.com/protected_MERCURY.HTM > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite????
Hi Pete and all, Perhaps with the Messenger Mission we'll be able to narrow down and know more accurately what a Mercurian Meteorite is made of. While we sample many specimens from the asteroid belt, there is no doubt many more asteroids we don't sample and may represent unique types that we have never seen, seen only once or wait to be discovered. Perhaps left overs from worlds that were forming only to be destroyed by a major impact with another larger body or even planetismo. I am sure, waiting out in various parts of the solar system, are surprises that will boggle scientific minds if and when they are found. In the mean time some of the unique specimens in our collections that don't seem to make sense could be remnants from some of the earliest collisions in our system and who knows if there might not be left overs from first generation stars. I think that Weir's page defines well what to look for as does McSween book Meteorite and their Parent Planets. My best to all. --AL Mitterling Peter A Shugar wrote: So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite????
Hello Darren, List A 2007 paper was published in MAPS taking the other side of the Angrite-Mercury hypothesis: Hutson, M.L. and A. Ruzicka (2007) The case against Mercury as the angrite parent body. Meteoritics & Planetary Science 42, Abstract #5238 Here are the ones in favor: Unique Angrite, NWA 2999: The Case For Samples From Mercury, A. Irving, S. Keuhner, D. Rumble, T. Bunch, J. Whittke, AGU, 2005 Fall Meeting, Abstract #P51A-0898 S. M. Kuehner, A. J. Irving, T. E. Bunch, J. H. Wittke, G. M. Hupé & A. C. Hupé, 2006, Coronas and symplectites in plutonic angrite NWA 2999 and implications for Mercury as the angrite parent body. Abstracts of the 37th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, #1344 Debate continues to exist on the matter. The truth is we have no answer at this time, only a notion of what a Mercurian meteorite might contain. One day soon we will be able to compare gasses or even samples and then we'll have a much better model. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LIST" Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0600, you wrote: So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Those angerites are pretty mercurial. http://meteoritestudies.com/protected_MERCURY.HTM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite????
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0600, you wrote: >So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible >Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Those angerites are pretty mercurial. http://meteoritestudies.com/protected_MERCURY.HTM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite????
So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list