[meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-22 Thread Norbert Classen
Marcin wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110044409830 
> This piece make me realy crazy. I have cut some ordinary meteorite
> fragments. I could expect anything special in this low quality 
> material except rust, missing iron and dark matrix. But then a big
> surprize. One of my most lucky cuts I have ever made. I have cut 
> this specimen just perfect into center of a large chondrule.
> Im not 100% sure , but this one looks like extra large 10x8 mm 
> chondrule.

I'm pretty sure that it is a huge chondrule or mega-chondrule. These are not
common, but you can find them from time to time, especially in L6 material.
Have a look at my website, and at the picture on the lower right on the
following page (click the photo to load up a larger image):

http://www.meteoris.de/basics/class2.html 

This is a nice 10x8mm mega-chondrule in L6 chondrite HaH 173, and it has
virtually the same size as the "object" in your sample.

BTW, if anyone is interested, I still have the sister slice of this one for
trade or sale (with only 7x5mm for the mega-chondrule, though, but with a
neat 5x3mm troilite blob, too). Pictures and specifications on request.

Best,
Norbert


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[meteorite-list] mega chondrule

2006-10-22 Thread steve arnold
What about the cosmic onion?I won a piece of NWA
4431,a 14 gram part-slice from  marcin that has the
cosmic onion chodrule.It is huge!!I wonder caused that
to be so big??

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[meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-22 Thread PolandMET

So
If we are at this very interesting topic, maybe we make a little competition 
?


Who have the biggest:
a) complete chondrule (Gujba rulez ?)
b) strange inclusion (exclude breccia fragments ofcourse)

ad
A) My chondrule You know, I have the mirror slice of this one from ebay.
size 9x9mm
B) Here is my slice that I show maybe one year ago. Its slice with the 
biggest inclusion

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa4432_inclusion.jpg
Size 30x23mm, non chondritich inclusion. Cumulative inclusion ?



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[meteorite-list] mega -chondrule

2006-10-23 Thread Dave Harris
Hullo,
Further to the threads regarding mega chondrules and odd inclusions, Marc
Fries of the Geophysical Laboratory at the Carnegie Institution of
Washington is going to have a look at my Allende inclusion and hopefully
explain what the heck has gone on here!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/entropydave/inclusion.jpg 

Naturally (with Marc's explicit permission, of course!) I will share the
results and hopefully we'll have a good idea of what's happening in this odd
slice!!


Also, on the subject of Marc, who did a lot of work on the petrogenesis of
Portales Valley (and amazing work too, BTW) I am pleased to announce that I
hope to get my first slice of fat and veiny PV soon, weighing in at a (for
me) hefty 28g thanks to Illinois Steve and Fleabay!

Now that IS an odd meteorite!!

And congrats to Martin A. and Stefan R. on their new lunar NWA 4483 - it is
a wonderful fresh looking specimen! Buy Buy Buy!!!


Cheers!

dave
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-23 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hi Marcin,

Good thread! NWA 2892 is a hard one to beat for Macrochondrules! This slice
has a 13.5mmx11mm chondrule.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/august2005.html

And NWA 4040 has some very large pale ('bright') inclusions. This one is
38mmx28mm at widest points.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/september2006.html

Cheers,

Jeff


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule


So
If we are at this very interesting topic, maybe we make a little competition
?

Who have the biggest:
a) complete chondrule (Gujba rulez ?)
b) strange inclusion (exclude breccia fragments ofcourse)

ad
A) My chondrule You know, I have the mirror slice of this one from ebay.
size 9x9mm
B) Here is my slice that I show maybe one year ago. Its slice with the
biggest inclusion
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa4432_inclusion.jpg
Size 30x23mm, non chondritich inclusion. Cumulative inclusion ?



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Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-23 Thread Joe
Hello List,   This is a piece that I thought was considered duel lithogy, but I was told by a pretty relible person that the dark part is an inclusion, maybe even a chondrule, or a "DI" Dark Inclusion. The first link is to a photo of the main mass cut in half. The second link shows multiple photos of each half. This is a very interesting piece. The full stone was 163.8 grams. The dark part (chondrule,or incllusion,or different loithogy) covers about 40-45% of the stone.The 2 halves.http://illinoismeteorites.com/images/duellith5.JPGMultiple photos of each stone, main mass, and descriptions.http://illinoismeteorites.com/saharanmeteorites.htmThanks,Joe Kerchner,http://illinoismeteorites.com- Original Message From: Jeff Kuyken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: PolandMET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:49:56 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleHi Marcin,Good thread! NWA 2892 is a hard one to beat for Macrochondrules! This slicehas a 13.5mmx11mm chondrule.http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/august2005.htmlAnd NWA 4040 has some very large pale ('bright') inclusions. This one is38mmx28mm at widest points.http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/september2006.htmlCheers,Jeff- Original Message -From: PolandMETTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:22 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleSoIf we are at this very interesting topic, maybe we make a little competition?Who have the biggest:a) complete chondrule (Gujba rulez ?)b) strange inclusion (exclude breccia fragments ofcourse)adA) My chondrule You know, I have the mirror slice of this one from ebay.size 9x9mmB) Here is my slice that I show maybe one year ago. Its slice with thebiggest inclusionhttp://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa4432_inclusion.jpgSize 30x23mm, non chondritich inclusion. Cumulative inclusion
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-23 Thread PolandMET

The 2 halves.
http://illinoismeteorites.com/images/duellith5.JPG
Multiple photos of each stone, main mass, and descriptions.
http://illinoismeteorites.com/saharanmeteorites.htm


This looks to me to be odd NWA 869. As we know it contain large dark 
inclusions. Thats what happend here with this specimen. Thats what I think.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-25 Thread Joe
Hello All,   On my previous reply I meant to type 30-35% not 40-45%. I just thought I would clear this up.Thanks,Joe Kerchner- Original Message From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:31:33 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleHello List,   This is a piece that I thought was considered duel lithogy, but I was told by a pretty relible person
 that the dark part is an inclusion, maybe even a chondrule, or a "DI" Dark Inclusion. The first link is to a photo of the main mass cut in half. The second link shows multiple photos of each half. This is a very interesting piece. The full stone was 163.8 grams. The dark part (chondrule,or incllusion,or different loithogy) covers about 40-45% of the stone.The 2 halves.http://illinoismeteorites.com/images/duellith5.JPGMultiple photos of each stone, main mass, and descriptions.http://illinoismeteorites.com/saharanmeteorites.htmThanks,Joe Kerchner,http://illinoismeteorites.com- Original
 Message From: Jeff Kuyken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: PolandMET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:49:56 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleHi Marcin,Good thread! NWA 2892 is a hard one to beat for Macrochondrules! This slicehas a 13.5mmx11mm chondrule.http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/august2005.htmlAnd NWA 4040 has some very large pale ('bright') inclusions. This one is38mmx28mm at widest points.http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/september2006.htmlCheers,Jeff- Original Message -From: PolandMETTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:22
 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleSoIf we are at this very interesting topic, maybe we make a little competition?Who have the biggest:a) complete chondrule (Gujba rulez ?)b) strange inclusion (exclude breccia fragments ofcourse)adA) My chondrule You know, I have the mirror slice of this one from ebay.size 9x9mmB) Here is my slice that I show maybe one year ago. Its slice with thebiggest inclusionhttp://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa4432_inclusion.jpgSize 30x23mm, non chondritich inclusion. Cumulative inclusion
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Fw: Fwd: [meteorite-list] mega -chondrule

2006-10-23 Thread Dave Harris






Marc has asked me to forward this to y'awl.
 
 
dave
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: Marc Fries
Date: 10/23/06 20:39:19
To: Dave Harris
Subject: Fwd: [meteorite-list] mega -chondrule
 Could you send this to the meteorite list?  I can't seem to post for some reason.

Cheers,


Marc Fries
Research Scientist
Geophysical Laboratory
Carnegie Institution of Washington
5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW
Washington, DC 20015
ph: 202 478 7970
fx: 202 478 8901



Begin forwarded message:

I contributed to the work on PV, but the credit for that work needs to go to Alex Ruzicka, the primary author.   I'll be happy to share what I find with that inclusion - it caught my attention because it seems to have a trapped chondrule on one front, and what looks like small (CO-ish sized?) chondrules on the other side.  I'm swamped with work at the moment, but I don't need to say that meteorites are addictive and just had to have a look at it.  Let the merriment begin...

Cheers,

Marc Fries
 







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Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule Competition

2006-10-23 Thread Darren Garrison
None of these are in the "mega" size range, but IMHO there are some really
interesting chondrules here.  This unclassified slice is something that I bought
as a "buy it now" item for 4 or 5 bucks from a seller just because I was already
buying other things from the same person, and thought that I might as well take
advantage of the lower combined shipping.  Turns out, though, that this "impulse
buy" piece is one of the favorites that I own  As for scale, it jams tight in a
38mm membrane box.  There is one especially interesting zoned, multicolored
eggish-shaped one in the right lower quadrant of the scan:

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/cool_unclassified.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule Competition

2006-10-23 Thread MARK BOSTICK

Hello list,

Here in my Mega-Chondrule entry. Wish I could see a thin section of it 
without cutting it all up.


http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colnwa791.html

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
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Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule

2006-10-23 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 03:25:36 +0200, you wrote:

>The 2 halves.
>http://illinoismeteorites.com/images/duellith5.JPG

Hey, those lithologies aren't fighting!  (And yeah, it sure looks like 869 to
me.)
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[meteorite-list] mega chondrule/cosmic onion

2006-10-25 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.I just got my COSMIC ONION from marcin and it
is very nice.There are 2 BIG chondruleson it.The front
one is 1.1 cm the back side is 1 cm on the backside.It
is nwa 4431.It really is great looking
meteorite.Thanks to marcin for making this available.




steve arnold

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Weird bit-o-space (was Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule Competition)

2006-10-24 Thread Darren Garrison
(Forwarding this posting from off-list in the hopes of getting comments from the
peanut gallery.)

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:53:34 -0500, you wrote:

>Could the bright white "chondrule" in same
>quadrant be a CAI?
>Could the "zoned, multicolored eggish-
>shaped one" be a clast of another chondrite?
>Or do chondrules just look like a miniature
>meteorite once in a while?
>In complete ignorance, I ask.
>http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/cool_unclassified.jpg 

I wish I knew the answer to lots of questions about this piece (and about more
or less any other meteorite) but raw mineralology is one of my weakest areas.
About all that I can handle in identifying mineral species in meteorites is
"this looks cool" and "that looks odd".  It seems pretty obvious, though, that
this has a pretty darned low metamorphic grade, and that the chondrules (and
possibly inclusions deserving other names) have had a pretty complex and diverse
history.  There is NO visible metal in it, but there are areas where it is
apparent that metal has oxidized away.  That could be from long terrestrial
weathering, or it could be ancient, I don't know.  The redness of the matrix
does resemble some "R" chondrites to me.  I've made a map of some of the
features that interest me:

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/cu_map.jpg

the "zoned, multicolored" one I mentioned is number 2, of course.  It is a
similar size to other chondrules in the piece, so I don't know about the alien
clast thing-- unless it came from something with much smaller chondrules.  As
for the possible CAI, you mean in number 3?  I donno.  It has white areas and
also blueish ones and reddish ones.  Lots of complexity there.
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