[meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why.
It's a nice crusted stone, pretty to look at. There are lots of nice crusted pretty stones available from other falls and finds. There are 159 non-Antarctic Howardites so how special will #160 be? As a collector I don't give a hoot about Syrian machine guns, skittish Kurd guides, or the expense of airline tickets. All that is the on-the-spot buyer's problem, as is making money from the venture. I'm looking for nice material that will hold its value or even has some money left in it. Chelyabinsk started well over $100 per gram and nice specimens are now available for 10 bucks or less. Similar price erosion occurred with Ash Creek, Buzzard Coulee, and Tissint. All witnessed falls and none very old. It's expensive being in on the 'ground floor'! Paul Swartz IMCA 5204 > I'm sorry Anne, perhaps a good internet check would clue you in that since > the Syrian war, things have slightly changed in that area. Go there now. I > have videos of machine gun fire in the area surrounding Bing?l. We left 7 > days early because my Kurdish guide was afraid for our safety. The > strenwfield has Syrian refugees camped out in it. > Damascus was nice place to have tea 5 years ago. Today it is a rubble pile. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why.
I'm sorry Anne, perhaps a good internet check would clue you in that since the Syrian war, things have slightly changed in that area. Go there now. I have videos of machine gun fire in the area surrounding Bingöl. We left 7 days early because my Kurdish guide was afraid for our safety. The strenwfield has Syrian refugees camped out in it. Damascus was nice place to have tea 5 years ago. Today it is a rubble pile. Michael Sent from my iPad > On Nov 15, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Just one small correction. > You wrote: "well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, " > No, it is on the main road between the southern coast of Turkey and Lake Van, > a good 200 km from the Syrian border as the crow flies. I was there a few > years ago, and yes the Turks were picking on the Kurds and there were tanks > and armored carriers all over the place, it made driving around very > interesting. But quite friendly. No problem at all. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > To: Ruben Garcia > Cc: Anne Black ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > ; Bigjohn Shea > Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 6:11 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: > Bingol is not overpriced, here is why. > > > Hi Everyone, > > I have been following the Bingol fall as closely as possible and > here > is why I think this fall is not overpriced. > > Bingol is not Ankara. It is > out in Kurd country closer to the > Syria-Iraq borders. In addition to having > ISIS terrorists hiding under > rocks, there is a long-standing and bloody battle > between the Turkish > government and armed Kurdish separatist groups. This > meteorite fell > well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, and > this > area is not safe. > > Traveling to that area of the Turkey and being that > close to the > clusterphuck in Syria is taking a serious risk to one's life > and > well-being. The price of a fall tends to go up when the finder > and/or > buyer is risking their life in a tangible way. > > Airfare to Turkey is > not cheap. Travel expenses are not cheap. > > This is the first witnessed fall of > a howardite in this century. > > The stone are magnificent. Some resemble > replicas of Lafayette with a > profusion of delicate flow-lines on > superbly-oriented specimens. > Lovely semi-translucent crust. > > There will never > be much of this material on the market in the future > - the TKW is modest. This > is not another Chelyabinsk where the prices > are going to drop significantly > later. > > To each their with personal collecting tastes. I am not saying > Bingol > is better than any other meteorite. I am just giving my opinion > that > Bingol does not appear to be any more overpriced than any typical > new > fall is. The first kid on the block with the new toy pays the most. > Prices > usually decline after the newness wears off. But, given the > circumstances of > this fall, the circumstances of the recovery, and the > type, I do not see the > price dropping dramatically later. > > I see a lot of this material moving on > social media outside eBay. It > doesn't appear to be sitting on the shelves very > long. I think eBay > has become it's own peculiar animal now that does not > resemble the > eBay meteorite market of old, but that's another story. > > Best > regards and Happy Huntings, > > MikeG > -- > > - > Web - > http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - > http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > Twitter - > http://twitter.com/galacticstone > Pinterest - > http://pinterest.com/galacticstone > - > > > > > > On > 11/15/15, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list > > wrote: >> Keep in mind I was referring to crusted individuals - like the > Bingol >> I''m selling - not crumbs. >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Anne > Black wrote: >>> Sorry, I sold my last fragment, 1.1g, not > all that long ago. >>> I'll let you know next time I get some. >>> >>> >>> Anne > M. Black >>> www.IMPACTIKA.com >>> impact...@aol.com >>> >>> >>> -Original > Message- >>> From: Ruben Garcia >>> To: Anne > Black >>> Cc: Bigjohn Shea ; >>> > Meteorite-list@meteoritec
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why.
Just one small correction. You wrote: "well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, " No, it is on the main road between the southern coast of Turkey and Lake Van, a good 200 km from the Syrian border as the crow flies. I was there a few years ago, and yes the Turks were picking on the Kurds and there were tanks and armored carriers all over the place, it made driving around very interesting. But quite friendly. No problem at all. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks To: Ruben Garcia Cc: Anne Black ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; Bigjohn Shea Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 6:11 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why. Hi Everyone, I have been following the Bingol fall as closely as possible and here is why I think this fall is not overpriced. Bingol is not Ankara. It is out in Kurd country closer to the Syria-Iraq borders. In addition to having ISIS terrorists hiding under rocks, there is a long-standing and bloody battle between the Turkish government and armed Kurdish separatist groups. This meteorite fell well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, and this area is not safe. Traveling to that area of the Turkey and being that close to the clusterphuck in Syria is taking a serious risk to one's life and well-being. The price of a fall tends to go up when the finder and/or buyer is risking their life in a tangible way. Airfare to Turkey is not cheap. Travel expenses are not cheap. This is the first witnessed fall of a howardite in this century. The stone are magnificent. Some resemble replicas of Lafayette with a profusion of delicate flow-lines on superbly-oriented specimens. Lovely semi-translucent crust. There will never be much of this material on the market in the future - the TKW is modest. This is not another Chelyabinsk where the prices are going to drop significantly later. To each their with personal collecting tastes. I am not saying Bingol is better than any other meteorite. I am just giving my opinion that Bingol does not appear to be any more overpriced than any typical new fall is. The first kid on the block with the new toy pays the most. Prices usually decline after the newness wears off. But, given the circumstances of this fall, the circumstances of the recovery, and the type, I do not see the price dropping dramatically later. I see a lot of this material moving on social media outside eBay. It doesn't appear to be sitting on the shelves very long. I think eBay has become it's own peculiar animal now that does not resemble the eBay meteorite market of old, but that's another story. Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 11/15/15, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote: > Keep in mind I was referring to crusted individuals - like the Bingol > I''m selling - not crumbs. > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Anne Black wrote: >> Sorry, I sold my last fragment, 1.1g, not all that long ago. >> I'll let you know next time I get some. >> >> >> Anne M. Black >> www.IMPACTIKA.com >> impact...@aol.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ruben Garcia >> To: Anne Black >> Cc: Bigjohn Shea ; >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 4:59 pm >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: >> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones >> From Space Rain Down >> >> >> Ha ha, >> >> Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte >> for >> $250 to $300 per gram. I will buy it right now! >> >> A link, a name, >> anything would be appreciated. >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne Black >> wrote: >>> Sorry Ruben, >>> >>> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a >> gram. >>> This one is terribly over-priced. >>> I love great historical falls, but >> I'll skip this one. >>> >>> >>> Anne M. Black >>> www.IMPACTIKA.com >>> >> impact...@aol.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Ruben Garcia via >> Meteorite-list >>> To: Bigjohn Shea >> >>> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list >> >>> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm >>> >>
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Bingol is not overpriced, here is why.
Hi Everyone, I have been following the Bingol fall as closely as possible and here is why I think this fall is not overpriced. Bingol is not Ankara. It is out in Kurd country closer to the Syria-Iraq borders. In addition to having ISIS terrorists hiding under rocks, there is a long-standing and bloody battle between the Turkish government and armed Kurdish separatist groups. This meteorite fell well outside the tourist-friendly confines of the capital, and this area is not safe. Traveling to that area of the Turkey and being that close to the clusterphuck in Syria is taking a serious risk to one's life and well-being. The price of a fall tends to go up when the finder and/or buyer is risking their life in a tangible way. Airfare to Turkey is not cheap. Travel expenses are not cheap. This is the first witnessed fall of a howardite in this century. The stone are magnificent. Some resemble replicas of Lafayette with a profusion of delicate flow-lines on superbly-oriented specimens. Lovely semi-translucent crust. There will never be much of this material on the market in the future - the TKW is modest. This is not another Chelyabinsk where the prices are going to drop significantly later. To each their with personal collecting tastes. I am not saying Bingol is better than any other meteorite. I am just giving my opinion that Bingol does not appear to be any more overpriced than any typical new fall is. The first kid on the block with the new toy pays the most. Prices usually decline after the newness wears off. But, given the circumstances of this fall, the circumstances of the recovery, and the type, I do not see the price dropping dramatically later. I see a lot of this material moving on social media outside eBay. It doesn't appear to be sitting on the shelves very long. I think eBay has become it's own peculiar animal now that does not resemble the eBay meteorite market of old, but that's another story. Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 11/15/15, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote: > Keep in mind I was referring to crusted individuals - like the Bingol > I''m selling - not crumbs. > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Anne Black wrote: >> Sorry, I sold my last fragment, 1.1g, not all that long ago. >> I'll let you know next time I get some. >> >> >> Anne M. Black >> www.IMPACTIKA.com >> impact...@aol.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ruben Garcia >> To: Anne Black >> Cc: Bigjohn Shea ; >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 4:59 pm >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: >> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones >> From Space Rain Down >> >> >> Ha ha, >> >> Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte >> for >> $250 to $300 per gram. I will buy it right now! >> >> A link, a name, >> anything would be appreciated. >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne Black >> wrote: >>> Sorry Ruben, >>> >>> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a >> gram. >>> This one is terribly over-priced. >>> I love great historical falls, but >> I'll skip this one. >>> >>> >>> Anne M. Black >>> www.IMPACTIKA.com >>> >> impact...@aol.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Ruben Garcia via >> Meteorite-list >>> To: Bigjohn Shea >> >>> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list >> >>> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm >>> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: >> Poor >> Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From >> Space >> Rain Down >>> >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> It's a howarite fall. >>> >>> In my opinion >> it's probably about once in >>> 20-30 year type thing. >>> Expensive? Yes, but I >> think not over priced - at least >>> not for what >>> it is. >>> >>> Other >> achondrite falls like Passamonte - $1000 per >>> gram >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 >> at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via >>> Meteorite-list >>> >> wrote: I may be crucified >>> for >> saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous... So many specimens and >>> >> demanding so high a price... Just feels ridiculous. Anyhow... Enjoy the >>> >> specimens! John A. Shea IMCA 3295 Sent using the >> mail.com mail >>> app On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via >> Meteorite-list wrote: > Hello >>> Listers > > Looks like there is a >> lot of the material coming from that fall >>> :) > if villagers have received >> over $200,000. > > Shawn Alan > IMCA 1633 > >>> ebay store >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html > Website >>> >> http://meteoritefalls.c
