Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread hall
Come on MikeG, you know that is not true. Your odds of making money go way
up with hard work, but hard work is no guarantee of becoming wealthy. An
enjoyable book to read is LIFE THE ODDS (And How To Improve Them) by
Gregory Baer.
   My life has been made more enjoyable by collecting and learning about
meteorites. Someday, when I sell my collection, I may do well by it, IF
I don't die first. No matter, it has been an enjoyable pastime, along
with chess and mineral collecting and sports and women and my four
children. Yes, meteorites  and science are a wonderful slice of life.
So is hard work, no matter the outcome.
Fred Hall

 What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work? 

 It's a myth that hasn't existed for at least 30-40 years.

 Best regards,

 MikeG

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 On 10/1/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:


 It is all political posturing for maximum effect.  Our Commander With A
 Few
 Real Teeth is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of
 party,
 who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.

 Perhaps we can all learn from this new style of governing.  I will soon
 have
 to go completely to fixed pricing on eBay in order to pay for the 101%
 increase in my monthly health care insurance and all of the new taxes
 that
 are going into affect on January 1st.  So much for affordable
 healthcare!

 Perhaps they should shut down 50% of the government permanently and use
 the
 funds to pay healthcare costs that politicians are exempt from.


 These new taxes hidden in a healthcare bill  will have an effect on
 meteorites sales.

 What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work?


 Go figure,

 Adam








 
 From: Jodie Reynolds spacero...@spaceballoon.org
 To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for
 Governmentshutdown


 Hundreds of billions in sunk-cost and they have less than 12 hours of
 burn on their bandwidth bill?

 My investors would lynch me, and no jury in the world would convict
 them...

 Of course, I have to have an approved budget every year or I'll get
 fired and the government will lock me up.

 Must be nice!

 --- Jodie



 Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 9:07:41 AM, you wrote:


 Hi,

 It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:

 http://www.nasa.gov

 Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not
 available.
 We sincerely regret this inconvenience.

 The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.

 Ron


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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Adam Hupe
My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
postured about!


As it stands now, well 
over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in profit I 
make on a 
meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one page 
return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something better to 
do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) hiding 
the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 

Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us are 
paid. 

I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those who 
completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take care of 
them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was appalled 
that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems the good 
companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, not the 
government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of the 
businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 

Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including 
myself, before this health care
 train-wreck hits.  Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted most 
of their employees to part-time.  Over half the people I know have lost their 
houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.

What does all of this have to do with meteorites?  Dealers have to pay these 
taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides.  I have worked for myself since 
1989 and this is the most hostile business environment imaginable.

So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current 
administration.  This was one of the high points but turned out to be just more 
political posturing like everything else these days.

I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even 
Business 101 would be helpful!  Most of them have fake degrees (purchased 
online) to begin with so I don't see them enrolling in any post graduate 
courses anytime soon. 

Adam
.







- Original Message -
From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com
To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government  shutdown

Come on MikeG, you know that is not true. Your odds of making money go way
up with hard work, but hard work is no guarantee of becoming wealthy. An
enjoyable book to read is LIFE THE ODDS (And How To Improve Them) by
Gregory Baer.
   My life has been made more enjoyable by collecting and learning about
meteorites. Someday, when I sell my collection, I may do well by it, IF
I don't die first. No matter, it has been an enjoyable pastime, along
with chess and mineral collecting and sports and women and my four
children. Yes, meteorites  and science are a wonderful slice of life.
So is hard work, no matter the outcome.
Fred Hall

 What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work? 

 It's a myth that hasn't existed for at least 30-40 years.

 Best regards,

 MikeG

 --
 -
 Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
 Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
 -



 On 10/1/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:


 It is all political posturing for maximum effect.  Our Commander With A
 Few
 Real Teeth is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of
 party,
 who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.

 Perhaps we can all learn from this new style of governing.  I will soon
 have
 to go completely to fixed pricing on eBay in order to pay for the 101%
 increase in my monthly health care insurance and all of the new taxes
 that
 are going into affect on January 1st.  So much for affordable
 healthcare!

 Perhaps they should shut down 50% of the government permanently and use
 the
 funds to pay healthcare costs that politicians are exempt from.


 These new taxes hidden in a healthcare bill  will have an effect on
 meteorites sales.

 What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work?


 Go figure,

 Adam








 
 From: Jodie Reynolds spacero...@spaceballoon.org
 To: Meteorite Mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Michael Farmer
We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day 
one. Romney lost decisively.
We voted.
The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current shutdown 
is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't end well 
for them.
Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites in 
many ways.
Facebook is the better place for politics. 
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
 postured about!
 
 
 As it stands now, well 
 over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in profit 
 I make on a 
 meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
 outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one page 
 return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something better to 
 do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
 nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
 for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
 it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
 population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) 
 hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 
 
 Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
 work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us 
 are paid. 
 
 I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those who 
 completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take care 
 of them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was 
 appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems 
 the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, 
 not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of 
 the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 
 
 Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including 
 myself, before this health care
 train-wreck hits.  Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted most 
 of their employees to part-time.  Over half the people I know have lost their 
 houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
 
 What does all of this have to do with meteorites?  Dealers have to pay these 
 taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides.  I have worked for myself 
 since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment imaginable.
 
 So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current 
 administration.  This was one of the high points but turned out to be just 
 more political posturing like everything else these days.
 
 I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even 
 Business 101 would be helpful!  Most of them have fake degrees (purchased 
 online) to begin with so I don't see them enrolling in any post graduate 
 courses anytime soon. 
 
 Adam
 .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com
 To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government  
 shutdown
 
 Come on MikeG, you know that is not true. Your odds of making money go way
 up with hard work, but hard work is no guarantee of becoming wealthy. An
 enjoyable book to read is LIFE THE ODDS (And How To Improve Them) by
 Gregory Baer.
My life has been made more enjoyable by collecting and learning about
 meteorites. Someday, when I sell my collection, I may do well by it, IF
 I don't die first. No matter, it has been an enjoyable pastime, along
 with chess and mineral collecting and sports and women and my four
 children. Yes, meteorites  and science are a wonderful slice of life.
 So is hard work, no matter the outcome.
 Fred Hall
 
 What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work? 
 
 It's a myth that hasn't existed for at least 30-40 years.
 
 Best regards,
 
 MikeG
 
 --
 -
 Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
 Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
 -
 
 
 
 On 10/1/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 It is all political posturing for maximum effect.  Our Commander With A
 Few
 Real Teeth is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of
 party,
 who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.
 
 Perhaps we can all learn from this new style

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Adam Hupe
No U.S. citizen voted directly on this horrible package (massive tax increase)! 
 They were lied to thinking it was Affordable for some reason. 


The good companies are 
dropping policies like flies.  A $10,000.00 deductible on $920.00/month 
health insurance that local doctors don't even recognize.  Give me a 
break!  How is this helping?


As it stands now, every U.S. Citizen is forced to buy, in most cases, 
substandard insurance!  If you are not a U.S. Citizen, then there is no need to 
purchase any insurance even while living in the U.S.  Talk to my wife who's car 
was hit by a non-U.S. citizen with no insurance and ask how she feels.  We had 
to pay for the repairs ourselves.  How is this fair?  It is a poorly thought 
out nightmare, a train-wreck in the making for sure. 


I think the price of meteorites will just have to go up.


Stupid is as Stupid Does for sure,

Adam






- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day 
one. Romney lost decisively.
We voted.
The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current shutdown 
is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't end well 
for them.
Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites in 
many ways.
Facebook is the better place for politics. 
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
 postured about!
 
 
 As it stands now, well 
 over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in profit 
 I make on a 
 meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
 outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one page 
 return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something better to 
 do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
 nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
 for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
 it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
 population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) 
 hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 
 
 Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
 work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us 
 are paid. 
 
 I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those who 
 completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take care 
 of them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was 
 appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems 
 the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, 
 not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of 
 the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 
 
 Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including 
 myself, before this health care
 train-wreck hits.  Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted most 
 of their employees to part-time.  Over half the people I know have lost their 
 houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
 
 What does all of this have to do with meteorites?  Dealers have to pay these 
 taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides.  I have worked for myself 
 since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment imaginable.
 
 So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current 
 administration.  This was one of the high points but turned out to be just 
 more political posturing like everything else these days.
 
 I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even 
 Business 101 would be helpful!  Most of them have fake degrees (purchased 
 online) to begin with so I don't see them enrolling in any post graduate 
 courses anytime soon. 
 
 Adam
 .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com
 To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government  
 shutdown
 
 Come on MikeG, you know that is not true. Your odds of making money go way
 up with hard work, but hard work is no guarantee of becoming wealthy. An
 enjoyable book to read is LIFE THE ODDS (And How To Improve Them) by
 Gregory Baer.
    My life has

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Michael Farmer
A foreigner hitting your car has nothing to do with Obama. Pretty sure it 
happens worldwide.
$10,000 deductible on $900 month insurance, that is some crappy insurance.

Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 No U.S. citizen voted directly on this horrible package (massive tax 
 increase)!  They were lied to thinking it was Affordable for some reason. 
 
 
 The good companies are 
 dropping policies like flies.  A $10,000.00 deductible on $920.00/month 
 health insurance that local doctors don't even recognize.  Give me a 
 break!  How is this helping?
 
 
 As it stands now, every U.S. Citizen is forced to buy, in most cases, 
 substandard insurance!  If you are not a U.S. Citizen, then there is no need 
 to purchase any insurance even while living in the U.S.  Talk to my wife 
 who's car was hit by a non-U.S. citizen with no insurance and ask how she 
 feels.  We had to pay for the repairs ourselves.  How is this fair?  It is a 
 poorly thought out nightmare, a train-wreck in the making for sure. 
 
 
 I think the price of meteorites will just have to go up.
 
 
 Stupid is as Stupid Does for sure,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown
 
 We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
 The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day 
 one. Romney lost decisively.
 We voted.
 The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current 
 shutdown is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't 
 end well for them.
 Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites 
 in many ways.
 Facebook is the better place for politics. 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
 postured about!
 
 
 As it stands now, well 
 over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in profit 
 I make on a 
 meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
 outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one 
 page return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something 
 better to 
 do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
 nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
 for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
 it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
 population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) 
 hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 
 
 Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
 work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us 
 are paid. 
 
 I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those who 
 completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take care 
 of them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was 
 appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems 
 the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, 
 not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of 
 the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 
 
 Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including 
 myself, before this health care
 train-wreck hits.  Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted most 
 of their employees to part-time.  Over half the people I know have lost 
 their houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
 
 What does all of this have to do with meteorites?  Dealers have to pay these 
 taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides.  I have worked for myself 
 since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment imaginable.
 
 So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current 
 administration.  This was one of the high points but turned out to be just 
 more political posturing like everything else these days.
 
 I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even 
 Business 101 would be helpful!  Most of them have fake degrees (purchased 
 online) to begin with so I don't see them enrolling in any post graduate 
 courses anytime soon. 
 
 Adam
 .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com
 To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:16 PM
 Subject

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Adam Hupe
Yep, this is the kind of insurance offered on the Affordable Healthcare Act 
exchanges. Crap for sure!

Adam



- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

A foreigner hitting your car has nothing to do with Obama. Pretty sure it 
happens worldwide.
$10,000 deductible on $900 month insurance, that is some crappy insurance.

Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 No U.S. citizen voted directly on this horrible package (massive tax 
 increase)!  They were lied to thinking it was Affordable for some reason. 
 
 
 The good companies are 
 dropping policies like flies.  A $10,000.00 deductible on $920.00/month 
 health insurance that local doctors don't even recognize.  Give me a 
 break!  How is this helping?
 
 
 As it stands now, every U.S. Citizen is forced to buy, in most cases, 
 substandard insurance!  If you are not a U.S. Citizen, then there is no need 
 to purchase any insurance even while living in the U.S.  Talk to my wife 
 who's car was hit by a non-U.S. citizen with no insurance and ask how she 
 feels.  We had to pay for the repairs ourselves.  How is this fair?  It is a 
 poorly thought out nightmare, a train-wreck in the making for sure. 
 
 
 I think the price of meteorites will just have to go up.
 
 
 Stupid is as Stupid Does for sure,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown
 
 We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
 The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day 
 one. Romney lost decisively.
 We voted.
 The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current 
 shutdown is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't 
 end well for them.
 Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites 
 in many ways.
 Facebook is the better place for politics. 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
 postured about!
 
 
 As it stands now, well 
 over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in profit 
 I make on a 
 meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
 outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one 
 page return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something 
 better to 
 do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
 nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
 for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
 it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
 population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) 
 hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 
 
 Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
 work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us 
 are paid. 
 
 I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those who 
 completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take care 
 of them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was 
 appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems 
 the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, 
 not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of 
 the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 
 
 Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including 
 myself, before this health care
 train-wreck hits.  Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted most 
 of their employees to part-time.  Over half the people I know have lost 
 their houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
 
 What does all of this have to do with meteorites?  Dealers have to pay these 
 taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides.  I have worked for myself 
 since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment imaginable.
 
 So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current 
 administration.  This was one of the high points but turned out to be just 
 more political posturing like everything else these days.
 
 I think all polititians should be required to take business courses, even 
 Business 101 would be helpful!  Most of them have fake degrees (purchased

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Michael Farmer
Where, for who? Not on the Arizona exchanges, oh wait, are you a smoker? Well, 
that could be your problem. Insurance doesn't like smokers.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yep, this is the kind of insurance offered on the Affordable Healthcare Act 
 exchanges. Crap for sure!
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown
 
 A foreigner hitting your car has nothing to do with Obama. Pretty sure it 
 happens worldwide.
 $10,000 deductible on $900 month insurance, that is some crappy insurance.
 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 No U.S. citizen voted directly on this horrible package (massive tax 
 increase)!  They were lied to thinking it was Affordable for some reason. 
 
 
 The good companies are 
 dropping policies like flies.  A $10,000.00 deductible on $920.00/month 
 health insurance that local doctors don't even recognize.  Give me a 
 break!  How is this helping?
 
 
 As it stands now, every U.S. Citizen is forced to buy, in most cases, 
 substandard insurance!  If you are not a U.S. Citizen, then there is no need 
 to purchase any insurance even while living in the U.S.  Talk to my wife 
 who's car was hit by a non-U.S. citizen with no insurance and ask how she 
 feels.  We had to pay for the repairs ourselves.  How is this fair?  It is a 
 poorly thought out nightmare, a train-wreck in the making for sure. 
 
 
 I think the price of meteorites will just have to go up.
 
 
 Stupid is as Stupid Does for sure,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government 
 shutdown
 
 We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
 The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day 
 one. Romney lost decisively.
 We voted.
 The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current 
 shutdown is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't 
 end well for them.
 Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites 
 in many ways.
 Facebook is the better place for politics. 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
 postured about!
 
 
 As it stands now, well 
 over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in 
 profit I make on a 
 meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
 outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one 
 page return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something 
 better to 
 do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
 nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
 for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
 it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
 population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) 
 hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 
 
 Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
 work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us 
 are paid. 
 
 I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those 
 who completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take 
 care of them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was 
 appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems 
 the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, 
 not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of 
 the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 
 
 Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including 
 myself, before this health care
 train-wreck hits.  Casinos and big businesses here have already shifted 
 most of their employees to part-time.  Over half the people I know have 
 lost their houses, down-sized their lifestyles and are in near poverty.
 
 What does all of this have to do with meteorites?  Dealers have to pay 
 these taxes and are getting squeezed from all sides.  I have worked for 
 myself since 1989 and this is the most hostile business environment 
 imaginable.
 
 So much for the fake Green Energy program proposed by the current 
 administration

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Adam Hupe
The insurance is for my wife who is very healthy and is a non-smoker.  If you 
are over 50 and a woman, try finding affordable healthcare now that you will be 
grouped with people who have preexisting conditions.

By the way, Obama is a smoker and is exempt from his own monstrosity,

Adam

.



- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

Where, for who? Not on the Arizona exchanges, oh wait, are you a smoker? Well, 
that could be your problem. Insurance doesn't like smokers.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yep, this is the kind of insurance offered on the Affordable Healthcare Act 
 exchanges. Crap for sure!
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown
 
 A foreigner hitting your car has nothing to do with Obama. Pretty sure it 
 happens worldwide.
 $10,000 deductible on $900 month insurance, that is some crappy insurance.
 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 No U.S. citizen voted directly on this horrible package (massive tax 
 increase)!  They were lied to thinking it was Affordable for some reason. 
 
 
 The good companies are 
 dropping policies like flies.  A $10,000.00 deductible on $920.00/month 
 health insurance that local doctors don't even recognize.  Give me a 
 break!  How is this helping?
 
 
 As it stands now, every U.S. Citizen is forced to buy, in most cases, 
 substandard insurance!  If you are not a U.S. Citizen, then there is no need 
 to purchase any insurance even while living in the U.S.  Talk to my wife 
 who's car was hit by a non-U.S. citizen with no insurance and ask how she 
 feels.  We had to pay for the repairs ourselves.  How is this fair?  It is a 
 poorly thought out nightmare, a train-wreck in the making for sure. 
 
 
 I think the price of meteorites will just have to go up.
 
 
 Stupid is as Stupid Does for sure,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government 
 shutdown
 
 We did vote on it, it was called the 2012 presidential election.
 The entire election was ran on Obamacare. Romney promised to kill it on day 
 one. Romney lost decisively.
 We voted.
 The losers just haven't accepted the fact that they lost. The current 
 shutdown is the result of a losing party throwing a temper tantrum. It won't 
 end well for them.
 Let's just talk meteorites here, though the shutdown does affect meteorites 
 in many ways.
 Facebook is the better place for politics. 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 My 10-minute rant since all of this government shutdown business is being 
 postured about!
 
 
 As it stands now, well 
 over half my income is paid in taxes meaning that for every dollar in 
 profit I make on a 
 meteorite, over 50 cents goes to taxes of one sort or another.  I find this 
 outrageous!  I think it should be a flat 28% across the board with a one 
 page return so that the 90,000 furloughed IRS agents can find something 
 better to 
 do than manage all of these new taxes hidden in a Healthcare Law that 
 nobody voted on.  Citizens in their right mind would have never voted 
 for this massive tax increase in the middle of a great depression.  Yes 
 it is a depression, the food lines don't exist because half the 
 population is quietly on food stamps or some other entitlement (handout) 
 hiding the real issues and enslaving them to the government. 
 
 Yes, under the current political leadership (if you can call it that), hard 
 work will get you nothing after all of the new taxes that were forced on us 
 are paid. 
 
 I see in the future a single wide trailer and poor health care for those 
 who completely depend on the government handouts or Social Security to take 
 care of them when they retire.  I looked at the insurance exchange and was 
 appalled that no brand name insurance companies were listed on it. It seems 
 the good companies don't want to offer private insurance anymore.  401K's, 
 not the government, might pull you slightly ahead for retirement if all of 
 the businesses haven't moved to China by the time you are ready to retire. 
 
 Everybody I know is getting needed surgeries out of the way now, including

[meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Ron Baalke

Hi,

It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:

http://www.nasa.gov

Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not available.
We sincerely regret this inconvenience.

The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.

Ron


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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Jodie Reynolds
Hundreds of billions in sunk-cost and they have less than 12 hours of
burn on their bandwidth bill?

My investors would lynch me, and no jury in the world would convict
them...

Of course, I have to have an approved budget every year or I'll get
fired and the government will lock me up.

Must be nice!

--- Jodie



Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 9:07:41 AM, you wrote:


 Hi,

 It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:

 http://www.nasa.gov

 Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not 
 available.
 We sincerely regret this inconvenience.

 The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.

 Ron


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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Adam Hupe


It is all political posturing for maximum effect.  Our Commander With A Few 
Real Teeth is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of party, 
who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.

Perhaps we can all learn from this new style of governing.  I will soon have to 
go completely to fixed pricing on eBay in order to pay for the 101% increase in 
my monthly health care insurance and all of the new taxes that are going into 
affect on January 1st.  So much for affordable healthcare!

Perhaps they should shut down 50% of the government permanently and use the 
funds to pay healthcare costs that politicians are exempt from.  


These new taxes hidden in a healthcare bill  will have an effect on meteorites 
sales.

What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work?  


Go figure,

Adam









From: Jodie Reynolds spacero...@spaceballoon.org
To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government
shutdown


Hundreds of billions in sunk-cost and they have less than 12 hours of
burn on their bandwidth bill?

My investors would lynch me, and no jury in the world would convict
them...

Of course, I have to have an approved budget every year or I'll get
fired and the government will lock me up.

Must be nice!

--- Jodie



Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 9:07:41 AM, you wrote:


 Hi,

 It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:

 http://www.nasa.gov

 Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not 
 available.
 We sincerely regret this inconvenience.

 The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.

 Ron


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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work? 

It's a myth that hasn't existed for at least 30-40 years.

Best regards,

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On 10/1/13, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:


 It is all political posturing for maximum effect.  Our Commander With A Few
 Real Teeth is an expert at it as are most politicians, regardless of party,
 who forget that they are supposed to be working for the people.

 Perhaps we can all learn from this new style of governing.  I will soon have
 to go completely to fixed pricing on eBay in order to pay for the 101%
 increase in my monthly health care insurance and all of the new taxes that
 are going into affect on January 1st.  So much for affordable healthcare!

 Perhaps they should shut down 50% of the government permanently and use the
 funds to pay healthcare costs that politicians are exempt from.


 These new taxes hidden in a healthcare bill  will have an effect on
 meteorites sales.

 What ever happened to be rewarded for hard work?


 Go figure,

 Adam








 
 From: Jodie Reynolds spacero...@spaceballoon.org
 To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA websites taken down for
 Governmentshutdown


 Hundreds of billions in sunk-cost and they have less than 12 hours of
 burn on their bandwidth bill?

 My investors would lynch me, and no jury in the world would convict
 them...

 Of course, I have to have an approved budget every year or I'll get
 fired and the government will lock me up.

 Must be nice!

 --- Jodie



 Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 9:07:41 AM, you wrote:


 Hi,

 It looks like the NASA website has been taken down for the shutdown:

 http://www.nasa.gov

 Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not
 available.
 We sincerely regret this inconvenience.

 The NEO website at JPL is not affected by this.

 Ron


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