Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi Michael, Edward, Steve, etc.

All of those free photo sites are nice, but there are too many of them and
therefore everyone's photos are scattered all over the web.  Even if
everyone adds a URL link to their photos in an e-mail and posts it to this
list, it's a major pain in the butt.  That's what many of us don't want.
For example, if someone joins our list tomorrow and is looking for photos of
Sikhote Alin, they have no way to go back and search through all of the list
e-mails for Sikhote Alin photos links that were uploaded to Flickr or
Webshots 3 or 6 or 9 months ago... unless there is a search function in our
list's archives (I couldn't find one).  Even if there were a search
function, it would still be a pain to go look at some on Flickr, then go to
Webshots, then go to Picassa, etc.  Too much jumping around.  So, they
should all be in a centralized location.

Jason, Rob and Norbert all mentioned the Encyclopedia of Meteorites website.
From what I've seen on it in just the few minutes that I've looked at it,
that DOES seem to be a good place to post meteorite (or meteorite-related)
photos, so maybe it has most/all of the features I was inquiring about.  I
had heard about the Encyclopedia of Meteorites a year ago, but personal
photo collections are not what I would expect in an encyclopedia, so I
didn't even think to look there.

Thanks all!

Bob


-Original Message-
From: Michael L Blood [mailto:mlbl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:23 PM
To: Bob Loeffler; Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository (was
Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records)

Bob,
I don't see the problem... There are many free photo sites -
Upload your photo, get the URL, put the click-to URL into your
Post to the list and there you are. Hundreds do it. The worst
Case scenario is you have to copy/paste the URL to your browser.
I like Webshots :  http://www.webshots.com/   because of the
Ease of use and the option to pay a little and expand your capacity,
but there are dozens out there - just choose one
(I will admit there is at least one list member that cannot seem
To get this basic concept, talks about a photo we certainly should
Be sure to see -  and leaves the URL out of his posts
Concluding with ...Enjoy!  - enjoy WHAT?)
Other than that, how easy can it get, Bob? These sites are
Out there - pick one, use it, post to the list.
Best wishes, Michael

on 12/26/08 8:14 AM, Bob Loeffler at b...@peaktopeak.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm not posting this to MikeG's chat group discussion because my idea is
not
 the focus of that discussion.
 
 I see only one thing missing from this Meteorite list:  A picture
repository
 for list members who don't have websites.  We can have all of the
 meteorite-related discussions that we so desire on this list, but if a
 member wants to show us pictures of his meteorites, he/she has to use a
 service like Flickr if he/she doesn't have his/her own website.  Flickr
and
 some of the others are nice for general use, but then we have pictures
 strewn about all over the web and it's impossible to search for them.  Not
 easy for new members (or old members) to view them.
 
 What I would like to see is a meteor/meteorite picture storage site that
is
 easy to navigate and easy for people to post their pictures to.  It would
 need to be moderated (e.g. someone posts a picture and caption, then the
 moderator would need to OK it before it is viewable by everyone) and you
 would need to be a member of the website (free, of course, but donations
 would be good) to be able to post (so it would cut down on spammer
posts).
 The moderator would then prevent the few spammer posts to be uploaded.
Each
 member would get his/her own folder (or album) to post pictures into.  And
 maybe they could create more folders within their main folder.  It would
 need to be searchable (e.g. I want to see all Sikhote Alin meteorites).
 
 Anyone could become a member, even dealers who already have a website,
 because they might want to share their personal collection with everyone
 else without putting it on their dealer website.  There would be no
 advertising on this, but you could add your website URL to the caption of
a
 picture if you want people to be able to easily find your website.  There
 would be NO discussion on the website since we already have a place for
 that.  :-)  Just pictures and their captions.
 
 It should be able to have it's own website domain name (e.g.
 www.met-list-meteorites.com).  I volunteer to pay the yearly domain name
fee
 if others would share the monthly web hosting fee (I could help with that,
 too) and the daily work.  I am too stretched on other volunteer work, so I
 can't do much of the daily moderation (which of course could be done every
 couple of days instead of daily).
 
 Is there any website system out there that can do this already?  Or is
there
 anyone who could make one?
 
 Thanks and Happy

[meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository (was Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records)

2008-12-26 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi all,

I'm not posting this to MikeG's chat group discussion because my idea is not
the focus of that discussion.

I see only one thing missing from this Meteorite list:  A picture repository
for list members who don't have websites.  We can have all of the
meteorite-related discussions that we so desire on this list, but if a
member wants to show us pictures of his meteorites, he/she has to use a
service like Flickr if he/she doesn't have his/her own website.  Flickr and
some of the others are nice for general use, but then we have pictures
strewn about all over the web and it's impossible to search for them.  Not
easy for new members (or old members) to view them.

What I would like to see is a meteor/meteorite picture storage site that is
easy to navigate and easy for people to post their pictures to.  It would
need to be moderated (e.g. someone posts a picture and caption, then the
moderator would need to OK it before it is viewable by everyone) and you
would need to be a member of the website (free, of course, but donations
would be good) to be able to post (so it would cut down on spammer posts).
The moderator would then prevent the few spammer posts to be uploaded.  Each
member would get his/her own folder (or album) to post pictures into.  And
maybe they could create more folders within their main folder.  It would
need to be searchable (e.g. I want to see all Sikhote Alin meteorites).

Anyone could become a member, even dealers who already have a website,
because they might want to share their personal collection with everyone
else without putting it on their dealer website.  There would be no
advertising on this, but you could add your website URL to the caption of a
picture if you want people to be able to easily find your website.  There
would be NO discussion on the website since we already have a place for
that.  :-)  Just pictures and their captions.

It should be able to have it's own website domain name (e.g.
www.met-list-meteorites.com).  I volunteer to pay the yearly domain name fee
if others would share the monthly web hosting fee (I could help with that,
too) and the daily work.  I am too stretched on other volunteer work, so I
can't do much of the daily moderation (which of course could be done every
couple of days instead of daily).

Is there any website system out there that can do this already?  Or is there
anyone who could make one?

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

Regards,

Bob Loeffler
COMETS
http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John
higgins
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 8:08 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records

 Hi Elton, this post is not in any way intended to be  a attack, trolling,
disparagement, of you or anyone else who feels the same way. And the
meteorite working group, would perfer this conversation be OFF-LIST. We
don't want this to be a meteorite list issue! Instead of discouraging other
people, which you have obvisouly acclompished with flying colors. Come and
join in our discussion. Get to know the people you are calling untalented
auto salesman, and see if when you are done you still think of us as
selfish, greedy self centered folks, who only have their own self intrest at
heart. A dicussion is all it is at this point. If the idea gets far, and you
still disagree. Then bash it all you want. Our group already stated that we
want a private dicussion, you are trying to bash us in a public forum, not
very nice. Maybe somebody can make comments on your moral judgement and
nature for doing so, but that is not in our nature, so we cannot comment on
 that. I have already responded to your post in Mike's yahoo chat group.
Anybody who is intrested, should go there and comment. You can find my post
as well as others at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoriteworkinggroup/
Have a Great Day!
John Higgins



- Original Message 
From: Mr EMan mstrema...@yahoo.com
To: valpar...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 2:47:31 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records

Hello Folks--  Season's greetings. I just wanted to share some thoughts on 
forming new meteorite interest groups--past empire building in the meteorite
world in general and why some succeeded and some failed. Please, no one take
this as an attack, trolling,disparagement, discouragement, or a dissing of
anyone.  It is not directed at any one, although it may have been bumped to
the forefront by Mike's recent thread. An honest idea was proposed and I am
not per se addressing his proposal in any way so please keep an open mind. 
On this list we are as close as can be to inclusive(99%) in having a
collection of members within the existing meteorite interest niches.  As a
long time member  with observations regarding empire 

Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository (was Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records)

2008-12-26 Thread Michael L Blood
Bob,
I don't see the problem... There are many free photo sites -
Upload your photo, get the URL, put the click-to URL into your
Post to the list and there you are. Hundreds do it. The worst
Case scenario is you have to copy/paste the URL to your browser.
I like Webshots :  http://www.webshots.com/   because of the
Ease of use and the option to pay a little and expand your capacity,
but there are dozens out there - just choose one
(I will admit there is at least one list member that cannot seem
To get this basic concept, talks about a photo we certainly should
Be sure to see -  and leaves the URL out of his posts
Concluding with ...Enjoy!  - enjoy WHAT?)
Other than that, how easy can it get, Bob? These sites are
Out there - pick one, use it, post to the list.
Best wishes, Michael

on 12/26/08 8:14 AM, Bob Loeffler at b...@peaktopeak.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm not posting this to MikeG's chat group discussion because my idea is not
 the focus of that discussion.
 
 I see only one thing missing from this Meteorite list:  A picture repository
 for list members who don't have websites.  We can have all of the
 meteorite-related discussions that we so desire on this list, but if a
 member wants to show us pictures of his meteorites, he/she has to use a
 service like Flickr if he/she doesn't have his/her own website.  Flickr and
 some of the others are nice for general use, but then we have pictures
 strewn about all over the web and it's impossible to search for them.  Not
 easy for new members (or old members) to view them.
 
 What I would like to see is a meteor/meteorite picture storage site that is
 easy to navigate and easy for people to post their pictures to.  It would
 need to be moderated (e.g. someone posts a picture and caption, then the
 moderator would need to OK it before it is viewable by everyone) and you
 would need to be a member of the website (free, of course, but donations
 would be good) to be able to post (so it would cut down on spammer posts).
 The moderator would then prevent the few spammer posts to be uploaded.  Each
 member would get his/her own folder (or album) to post pictures into.  And
 maybe they could create more folders within their main folder.  It would
 need to be searchable (e.g. I want to see all Sikhote Alin meteorites).
 
 Anyone could become a member, even dealers who already have a website,
 because they might want to share their personal collection with everyone
 else without putting it on their dealer website.  There would be no
 advertising on this, but you could add your website URL to the caption of a
 picture if you want people to be able to easily find your website.  There
 would be NO discussion on the website since we already have a place for
 that.  :-)  Just pictures and their captions.
 
 It should be able to have it's own website domain name (e.g.
 www.met-list-meteorites.com).  I volunteer to pay the yearly domain name fee
 if others would share the monthly web hosting fee (I could help with that,
 too) and the daily work.  I am too stretched on other volunteer work, so I
 can't do much of the daily moderation (which of course could be done every
 couple of days instead of daily).
 
 Is there any website system out there that can do this already?  Or is there
 anyone who could make one?
 
 Thanks and Happy Holidays!
 
 Regards,
 
 Bob Loeffler
 COMETS
 http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John
 higgins
 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 8:08 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records
 
  Hi Elton, this post is not in any way intended to be  a attack, trolling,
 disparagement, of you or anyone else who feels the same way. And the
 meteorite working group, would perfer this conversation be OFF-LIST. We
 don't want this to be a meteorite list issue! Instead of discouraging other
 people, which you have obvisouly acclompished with flying colors. Come and
 join in our discussion. Get to know the people you are calling untalented
 auto salesman, and see if when you are done you still think of us as
 selfish, greedy self centered folks, who only have their own self intrest at
 heart. A dicussion is all it is at this point. If the idea gets far, and you
 still disagree. Then bash it all you want. Our group already stated that we
 want a private dicussion, you are trying to bash us in a public forum, not
 very nice. Maybe somebody can make comments on your moral judgement and
 nature for doing so, but that is not in our nature, so we cannot comment on
  that. I have already responded to your post in Mike's yahoo chat group.
 Anybody who is intrested, should go there and comment. You can find my post
 as well as others at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoriteworkinggroup/
 Have a Great Day!
 John Higgins
 
 
 
 

Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository (was Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records)

2008-12-26 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Bob, Michael,
I would go for either flickr.com (free account gives you 200 fairly
high-res pictures - per account, and unlimited photos of even higher
resolution if you pay), or the encyclopedia of meteorites site, run by
our list's own Pierre-Marie Pele.
Have a look:

http://encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/

Creating an account is free, though donations aren't frowned upon.

I find that webshots and picasa...well, I've never used either, but it
seems to me that either they have lower resolution capabilities than
flickr - or people simply choose to upload smaller images.  Never
having used either, I can't say which is true.
Regards,
Jason

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael L Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:
 Bob,
I don't see the problem... There are many free photo sites -
 Upload your photo, get the URL, put the click-to URL into your
 Post to the list and there you are. Hundreds do it. The worst
 Case scenario is you have to copy/paste the URL to your browser.
 I like Webshots :  http://www.webshots.com/   because of the
 Ease of use and the option to pay a little and expand your capacity,
 but there are dozens out there - just choose one
 (I will admit there is at least one list member that cannot seem
 To get this basic concept, talks about a photo we certainly should
 Be sure to see -  and leaves the URL out of his posts
 Concluding with ...Enjoy!  - enjoy WHAT?)
Other than that, how easy can it get, Bob? These sites are
 Out there - pick one, use it, post to the list.
Best wishes, Michael

 on 12/26/08 8:14 AM, Bob Loeffler at b...@peaktopeak.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm not posting this to MikeG's chat group discussion because my idea is not
 the focus of that discussion.

 I see only one thing missing from this Meteorite list:  A picture repository
 for list members who don't have websites.  We can have all of the
 meteorite-related discussions that we so desire on this list, but if a
 member wants to show us pictures of his meteorites, he/she has to use a
 service like Flickr if he/she doesn't have his/her own website.  Flickr and
 some of the others are nice for general use, but then we have pictures
 strewn about all over the web and it's impossible to search for them.  Not
 easy for new members (or old members) to view them.

 What I would like to see is a meteor/meteorite picture storage site that is
 easy to navigate and easy for people to post their pictures to.  It would
 need to be moderated (e.g. someone posts a picture and caption, then the
 moderator would need to OK it before it is viewable by everyone) and you
 would need to be a member of the website (free, of course, but donations
 would be good) to be able to post (so it would cut down on spammer posts).
 The moderator would then prevent the few spammer posts to be uploaded.  Each
 member would get his/her own folder (or album) to post pictures into.  And
 maybe they could create more folders within their main folder.  It would
 need to be searchable (e.g. I want to see all Sikhote Alin meteorites).

 Anyone could become a member, even dealers who already have a website,
 because they might want to share their personal collection with everyone
 else without putting it on their dealer website.  There would be no
 advertising on this, but you could add your website URL to the caption of a
 picture if you want people to be able to easily find your website.  There
 would be NO discussion on the website since we already have a place for
 that.  :-)  Just pictures and their captions.

 It should be able to have it's own website domain name (e.g.
 www.met-list-meteorites.com).  I volunteer to pay the yearly domain name fee
 if others would share the monthly web hosting fee (I could help with that,
 too) and the daily work.  I am too stretched on other volunteer work, so I
 can't do much of the daily moderation (which of course could be done every
 couple of days instead of daily).

 Is there any website system out there that can do this already?  Or is there
 anyone who could make one?

 Thanks and Happy Holidays!

 Regards,

 Bob Loeffler
 COMETS
 http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/


 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John
 higgins
 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 8:08 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records

  Hi Elton, this post is not in any way intended to be  a attack, trolling,
 disparagement, of you or anyone else who feels the same way. And the
 meteorite working group, would perfer this conversation be OFF-LIST. We
 don't want this to be a meteorite list issue! Instead of discouraging other
 people, which you have obvisouly acclompished with flying colors. Come and
 join in our discussion. Get to know the people you are calling untalented
 auto salesman, and see if when you are done you still think of us as