Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
I recognize that regional/localized warming could account for it, but that's not what they wrote. They should have phrased their hypothesis better. Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Yinan Wang wrote: > Don't dismiss something just because it uses the phrase "Global > Warming." In this case all it takes is regional warming in the arctic > circle to release methane previously frozen in the permafrost, which > can ignite underground and explode. > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> Their "most plausible theory" involves global warming? Global warming >> isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist. >> >> This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is >> apparent from the pictures: >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html >> >> "A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a >> meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole. >> >> 'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says." >> >> Michael in so. Cal. >> >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes >>> hundreds of feet deep. >>> >>> Michael Farmer >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html Chauncey __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
Don't dismiss something just because it uses the phrase "Global Warming." In this case all it takes is regional warming in the arctic circle to release methane previously frozen in the permafrost, which can ignite underground and explode. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote: > Their "most plausible theory" involves global warming? Global warming > isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist. > > This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is > apparent from the pictures: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html > > "A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a > meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole. > > 'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says." > > Michael in so. Cal. > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes >> hundreds of feet deep. >> >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html >>> Chauncey >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
Their "most plausible theory" involves global warming? Global warming isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist. This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is apparent from the pictures: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html "A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole. 'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says." Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: > This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes > hundreds of feet deep. > > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html >> Chauncey >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
Looks like the result of a methane-trap explosion! On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list wrote: > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html > Chauncey > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes hundreds of feet deep. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad > On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html > Chauncey > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html Chauncey __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new crater in siberia
Cash plea for space impact study By Dr David Whitehouse BBC News Online science editor http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2309117.stm Scientists investigating what is believed to be a "significant" fresh meteoroid impact crater in a remote part of Siberia are begging for funds to mount an expedition. A British meteorite expert has called on the international community to help Russian researchers get to the impact site, which may be of major scientific importance. It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies to support our Russian colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian impact Benny Peiser, John Moores University, Liverpool Hunters in the region say they have seen a large crater surrounded by burned forest. Vladimir Polyakov, of the Institute of Solar and Terrestrial Physics in Moscow, said: Specialists have no doubt that it is a meteorite that fell into the taiga on Thursday." Middle-power Earthquake Polyakov says there were more than 100 eyewitnesses to the event. He added that scientists believed them. He said instruments rarely recorded the impacts of meteoroids and so eyewitnesses were practically the only source of information for such events. Kirill Levi, vice-director of the Earth Crust Institute in Siberia, said: "The seismic monitoring station located near the event site recorded the moment of impact recording seismic waves comparable to a middle-power earthquake." Vladimir Polyakov added that it was impossible to send a state-funded expedition to the site, which lies in Bodaibo district, Irkutsk region, without approval from the Meteorite Studies Center in Moscow. Bodaibo residents say they witnessed the fall of a very large, luminous body, which looked like a huge boulder. No funds Scientists in Irkutsk have sent a report to Moscow along with a request for funds to mount an expedition but have had no reply. Benny Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University, UK, said: "We appear to be dealing with a significant impact event." He told BBC News Online: "It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies support our Russian colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian impact. "The resources required for sending a scientific expedition to the epicentre of the event would be very moderate but could yield vital information about the impact threat that concerns every citizen of the world." __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list