[meteorite-list] Odp: Re: Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

2013-02-19 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
Hi,
Yeah, true, this is what people had with Pultusk more than hundred years ago 
(maybe less private collectors, but Museum institutions for sure), same as with 
Sikhotes..
This fall will be super important
BB is rare, maybe super rare but is overpriced?Most people will take more 
Russian fall than BB?.




All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
IMCA 2321
Managing Editor
http://www.meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl/


Dnia Wtorek, 19 Lutego 2013 19:55 Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com 
napisał(a) 
 Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the 
 world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of 
 stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already 
 dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has 
 excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. 
 I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection 
 in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people.
 I know where I am going to put my money.
 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary 
  Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with 
  thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very well lose 
  90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off.  
  The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors 
  get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly.  On the other hand, 
  the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be 
appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down.
  
  I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I 
  am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
  
  Adam
  
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
  To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; 
  Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Cc: 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
  
  I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
  
  Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote:
  
  
  Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
  
  Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
  Martian..
  
  lol
  
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
  Ouzillou
  Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
  To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
  Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
  one)
  
  Agreed, they are both cool.
  
  So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would
  ignore the rules and get both. 
  
  Mendy Ouzillou
  
  
  
  From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
  To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
  Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
  Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
  pick
  one)
  
  But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively
  cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will
  likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones.
  $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
  meteorite.
  Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more
  interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material.
  No comparison in my opinion:)
  I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael 
  Farmer
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
  wrote:
  
  Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own
  rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall
  is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is
  the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
  collections. 
  Matt
  
  Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote:
  
  Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at 
  the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
  
  Mark
  
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
  Don Merchant
  Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
  To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Cc: Don Merchant
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
  one)
  
  Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
  meteorites/asteroids! 
  So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small 
  fragment for your 

Re: [meteorite-list] Odp: Re: Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

2013-02-19 Thread Graham Ensor
I'm waiting till the Russians bring some sacks loads of Chebarkul to
Ensisheim and hopefully there will be some BB there straight from
Morocco too...why choose when you can probably have both if you wait
;-)

Graham

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl wrote:
 Hi,
 Yeah, true, this is what people had with Pultusk more than hundred years ago 
 (maybe less private collectors, but Museum institutions for sure), same as 
 with Sikhotes..
 This fall will be super important
 BB is rare, maybe super rare but is overpriced?Most people will take more 
 Russian fall than BB?.




 All the best
 Tomasz Jakubowski
 IMCA 2321
 Managing Editor
 http://www.meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl/


 Dnia Wtorek, 19 Lutego 2013 19:55 Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com 
 napisał(a)
 Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the 
 world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of 
 stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already 
 dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has 
 excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest.
 I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every 
 collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people.
 I know where I am going to put my money.

 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:

  In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary 
  Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with 
  thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very well lose 
  90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. 
   The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors 
  get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly.  On the other hand, 
  the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be
 appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down.
 
  I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I 
  am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
 
  Adam
 
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
  To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; 
  Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Cc:
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick 
  one)
 
  I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
 
  Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote:
 
 
  Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
 
  Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
  Martian..
 
  lol
 
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
  Ouzillou
  Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
  To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
  Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
  one)
 
  Agreed, they are both cool.
 
  So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would
  ignore the rules and get both.
 
  Mendy Ouzillou
 
 
  
  From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
  To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
  Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
  pick
  one)
 
  But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively
  cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will
  likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones.
  $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
  meteorite.
  Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more
  interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material.
  No comparison in my opinion:)
  I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael
  Farmer
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
  wrote:
 
  Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own
  rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall
  is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is
  the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
  collections.
  Matt
 
  Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote:
 
  Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at
  the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
  Don Merchant
  Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
  To: