[meteorite-list] Oh, The Stories They Tell....

2009-04-04 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
There's a very simple explanation to this story:  the guy's lying!!!   How 
do I know?  Because they always lie!!  Why would you ever assume even for a 
second that such an outlandish story is true?  I work at a small Earth & 
Space Museum with a large collection of meteorites.  Every single story I've 
heard from people witnessing falls have been bogus.  At least 10 people in 
the last year and a half have brought in meteorwrongs that they swear up and 
down hit their house.  One was so hot that it melted the vinyl siding!  (It 
was railroad rock.)  One hit the house, went through the roof, bounced 
around inside awhile, then smashed through the wall and landed outside in 
the yard. (It was silicon.)  Others have hit houses narrowly missing the 
occupants. (Slag, klinkers and more silicon).  3 or 4 people have been 
outside and had to duck to avoid getting hit.  (Hematite and yet more slag.) 
Several people have come in with stories of seeing very large meteorites hit 
the ground, explode, form big craters, etc. Every one of these I've checked 
out has been a meteorwrong.  Often people will bring in non native minerals 
and swear they found them here in Indiana, or saw them fall from the sky.  I 
just had a chunk of antimony brought in that was supposedly found 30 feet 
underground!  My favorite was an older lady that just finished watching a 
television show about how meteorites are worth millions of dollars, when 
suddenly she was startled by the sound of something hitting the side of her 
house. You guessed it,  it was meteorites!   5 of them.  (One was railroad 
rock, 3 pieces of slag, a chunk of asphalt, and a piece of melted plastic.) 
Under questioning, not one relented, they all stuck to their stories.  They 
seemed to really believe their stories.  It's an interesting psychological 
phenomenon that meteorites (like sex) seem to induce people to tell 
outrageous stories. 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Oh, The Stories They Tell....

2009-04-05 Thread Meteorites USA

It's possible he's lying for the media attention.

But what about the little girl. Is she lying too? Or was she there?



JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:
There's a very simple explanation to this story:  the guy's lying!!!   
How do I know?  Because they always lie!!  Why would you ever assume 
even for a second that such an outlandish story is true?  I work at a 
small Earth & Space Museum with a large collection of meteorites.  
Every single story I've heard from people witnessing falls have been 
bogus.  At least 10 people in the last year and a half have brought in 
meteorwrongs that they swear up and down hit their house.  One was so 
hot that it melted the vinyl siding!  (It was railroad rock.)  One hit 
the house, went through the roof, bounced around inside awhile, then 
smashed through the wall and landed outside in the yard. (It was 
silicon.)  Others have hit houses narrowly missing the occupants. 
(Slag, klinkers and more silicon).  3 or 4 people have been outside 
and had to duck to avoid getting hit.  (Hematite and yet more slag.) 
Several people have come in with stories of seeing very large 
meteorites hit the ground, explode, form big craters, etc. Every one 
of these I've checked out has been a meteorwrong.  Often people will 
bring in non native minerals and swear they found them here in 
Indiana, or saw them fall from the sky.  I just had a chunk of 
antimony brought in that was supposedly found 30 feet underground!  My 
favorite was an older lady that just finished watching a television 
show about how meteorites are worth millions of dollars, when suddenly 
she was startled by the sound of something hitting the side of her 
house. You guessed it,  it was meteorites!   5 of them.  (One was 
railroad rock, 3 pieces of slag, a chunk of asphalt, and a piece of 
melted plastic.) Under questioning, not one relented, they all stuck 
to their stories.  They seemed to really believe their stories.  It's 
an interesting psychological phenomenon that meteorites (like sex) 
seem to induce people to tell outrageous stories.

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Eric Wichman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Oh, The Stories They Tell....

2009-04-05 Thread GeoZay

>>But what about the little girl. Is  she lying too? Or was she there?>>

I have little doubt that the man  and little girl saw either the bright 
meteor in the sky at some point or was  responding to their surroundings being 
lit 
up by it. It doesn't take a very  bright fireball to produce shadows on the 
ground. I know I've seen shadows  produced by at least a -6 fireball and if I 
was really looking for it, I  probably would have noticed shadows for meteors a 
magnitude or two dimmer.   In the reports that I've read, the little girl was 
simply quoted as saying  something like,  "What was that?" All the other stuff 
came from the man.  I'm convinced the man either intentionally or unknowingly 
embellish his story. I  think if this thing hit the water while still 
incandescent, the big story might  be something like, "Did you see that big 
splash?" 
or " Traffic Stalled Due to  Damage To a Bridge".   :O)  If anybody has any 
plans to look for  meteorites based on what this man said, I'd highly recommend 
you save your money  for the next time when the stories make sense. This event 
has a real good chance  to drop a meteorite somewhere...probably in the 
ocean, but not between these two  bridges. 
GeoZay  

**Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for $10 or 
less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Oh, The Stories They Tell....

2009-04-05 Thread John Gwilliam
A good indication that there is a great need in this country for 
Prozac maintenance programs and extended three-times-a-week 
counseling. Even though I ducked out of the business three years ago, 
I still get calls from people with the same fantasy tales of 
witnessed impacts and meteorites in craters so big thay can't be 
moved. When I ask for more details or pictures the conversations 
become really bizarre.


Best,
John

At 02:06 PM 4/4/2009, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:
There's a very simple explanation to this story:  the guy's 
lying!!!   How do I know?  Because they always lie!!  Why would you 
ever assume even for a second that such an outlandish story is 
true?  I work at a small Earth & Space Museum with a large 
collection of meteorites.  Every single story I've heard from people 
witnessing falls have been bogus.  At least 10 people in the last 
year and a half have brought in meteorwrongs that they swear up and 
down hit their house.  One was so hot that it melted the vinyl 
siding!  (It was railroad rock.)  One hit the house, went through 
the roof, bounced around inside awhile, then smashed through the 
wall and landed outside in the yard. (It was silicon.)  Others have 
hit houses narrowly missing the occupants. (Slag, klinkers and more 
silicon).  3 or 4 people have been outside and had to duck to avoid 
getting hit.  (Hematite and yet more slag.) Several people have come 
in with stories of seeing very large meteorites hit the ground, 
explode, form big craters, etc. Every one of these I've checked out 
has been a meteorwrong.  Often people will bring in non native 
minerals and swear they found them here in Indiana, or saw them fall 
from the sky.  I just had a chunk of antimony brought in that was 
supposedly found 30 feet underground!  My favorite was an older lady 
that just finished watching a television show about how meteorites 
are worth millions of dollars, when suddenly she was startled by the 
sound of something hitting the side of her house. You guessed 
it,  it was meteorites!   5 of them.  (One was railroad rock, 3 
pieces of slag, a chunk of asphalt, and a piece of melted plastic.) 
Under questioning, not one relented, they all stuck to their 
stories.  They seemed to really believe their stories.  It's an 
interesting psychological phenomenon that meteorites (like sex) seem 
to induce people to tell outrageous stories.

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John Gwilliam

Too many people were born on third base
and go through life thinking they hit a triple. 


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