Re: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
Sorry you feel I need to apologize to somebody who doesn't follow the rules. I think you have it backwards. In my opinion, it is disrespectful to those who do follow the rules not wanting to lose our advertising privileges. For those who live in the United States, I am sure you are tired of all of the Robocalls demanding that you reelect the president even though these phone calls are illegal. I was woken up by one of these illegal phone calls at 12:30 a.m. in the morning. I am interrupted with at least ten of these illegal phone calls a day since I live in a swing state. It makes me want to vote against the political party that is breaking the law and can't follow the rules! I considering spamming the List the same. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message - From: Mike Groetz To: Adam Hupe ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Library III - Historic Books & Articles on special topics Adam, I believe a polite apology to Martin is in order for him. He has done nothing wrong. There are others oh this list that have exceeded this requirement if you feel you need the need to criticize for it. Mike On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: > > > > > What ever happened to the one ad per week rule? It seems there are a few who > disrespecting those who follow the courtesy rules! > > > > > > > From: Martin Altmann > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:58 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Library III - Historic Books & Articles on special > topics > > Voilá, > > for those afficionados, who're collecting items to combine shipment, not > having to wait so long, > here already the next list of offers. > Some true benchmark publications among them. > Note btw. that at the modern online-article-services you have to pay often > more for new scientific papers than these historical ones are now offered. > > Much success! (Last part will follow in a few hours) > Martin > > > 35a) RAMMELSBERG > > C.Rammelsberg: > Die chemische Natur der Meteoriten. > Zweite Abtheilung. > Abhandlungen der Königl. Akademie der Wissenschaften, Berlin 1879 > > 64 pages. Lexicon-octavo. > Condition: Mint! > > Content: > > Meteoreisen > Pallasit > Chondrit > Chladnit > Shalkit > Anhang zum Eukrit (Shergotty) > Howardit > Kohlenstoff in Meteoriten > Neue Mineralien der Meteoriten > Uebersicht der isomorphen Mischungen der meteoritischen Olivin- und > Augitsubstanz > Verzeichniß solcher Meteoriten, deren erneute Untersuchung wünschenswerth > ist > Tabelle I. Zusammensetzung der Meteoreisen > Tabelle II. Zusammensetzung des Rückstandes (Schreibersits) > Tabelle III. Zusammensetzung der Chondrite > Tabelle IV. Zusammensetzung der Silikate der Chondrite > Tabelle V. Verhältniß des zersetzbaren Theils A und des unzersetzbaren B > Tabelle VI. Zusammensetzung des zersetzbaren Theils (A) der Silikate > Tabelle VII. Zusammensetzung des unzersetzbaren Theils (B) der Silikate > Nachträge > > (Carl Frierich Rammelsberg: > http://kuerzer.de/Rammelsberg ) > > 70$ > > > 35b) like 35a) > Condition: near mint. > > 60$ > > > 36) RINNE > > F.Rinne: > Kugelrunde Eiskrystalle und Chondren von Meteoriten. > Separate print from Neue Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Vol.1, 1897 > > 3 pages. University Greifswald stamp on front. > Condition: fine - good. > > (Friedrich Rinne: http://kuerzer.de/FRinne ) > > 5$ > > > 37) TASSIN > > W.Tassin: > On Meteoritic Chromits. > >From Proceedings of the U.S. National Museum, Vol.34, N°1628, Washington > 1908. > > 6 pages. Good - Very good. > > 10$ > > > 38) WATSON > > F.G.Watson: > Reflectivity and Color of Meteorites. > Print from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, Vol.24, N°12, > 1938. > > Cover. "Harvard Reprint 155" stamp on first page. > 6 pages. Contains 8 spectral-reflectance curves, 1 diagram. > Condition: good. > > 15$ > > 39) HENDERSON > > E.P.Henderson: > Meteorites and their Metallic Constituents. > Separate Print from the Smithsonian Annual Report, Washington 1943 > > 14 pages + 6 full-page tables, showing views of entire Freda and Tulia, > etched slices of Bennett County, Negrillo, Grand Rapids, El Burro, Sandia > Mountains, Reed City > And micrographs of Tennasilm, Sharps, Shallowater, Nordheim, Hoba, Iquique, > Tlacotepec. > > Condition: very good. > > 25$ > > > 40) MASON I. > > Brian Mason: > The Classification of Chondritic Meteorites. > American Museum Novitates N°2085, New York 1962. > > 20 pages. Near mint. > > 25$ > > > 41) MASON II. > > Brian Mason: > The Hypersthene Achondrites. > American Museum Novitates N°2155, New York 1963. > > 15 pages. 1 photomicrograph. Very good. > > 20$ > > > 42) MASON III. > > Brian Mason: > The Chemical Composition of Olivine-Bronzite and Olivine-Hypersthene > Chondrites. > American Museum Novitates N°2223, New York 1965. > > 38 pages. Multnomah library stamp on front. Mint. > > 40$
Re: [meteorite-list] One ad per week, one pet per sailor - parrots preferred.
Hello, You are referring to the statement I made, and I reread it and I see that I was not clear. Many years ago, there was not an AD Ban or a 1 Ad a week rule, this was before your time on the list. In those days, a huge amount of ads coincided with a multitude of diverse meteorite topics. It is in my opinion that in the days of many ads, we had better and more serious topics on meteorites than we do today. The topics today are fine, but in the old days they were richer in content. My opinion. The many ads and many better topics have nothing to do with each other THAN they coincided with each other on this list with NO PROBLEM. Until, a small percentage of people whined and complained, until the complaining became THE PROBLEM -NOT THE ADS. Yes Art owns the list, Yes, we owe a great debt of gratitude to Art and many thanks. However, when the day comes that people make someone else the GOD and RULER, not to be challenged or questioned, than that of course is the day when decay begins. All I have asked is for a vote on the issue which concerns 900+ people. I have always thought this was a good idea-since an immense amount of complaining centers around the issue. I will be leaving the list shortly, but the issue will not be resolved by my leaving because your root problem will still be with you. At least my ads will be gone and that should make some of you very happy. Think about it - if there is not a challenge of open discussion (like voting on a topic) than what you have is a no growth situation that leads to decay. My opinion. Yes Art owns the list, Yes, we owe a great debt of gratitude to Art and many thanks. However, to make Art's word or anyones word the final say on a subject. Is insane. History shows that to be true. No worries though, everything is good too. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: Hi List, "THE BEST TOPICS. THE BEST CONVERSTION ON METEORITES COINCIDED WITH THE MOST ADS." I respectfully disagree here. I've seen perfectly good questions about meteoritics posted in the past, only to hear crickets and see tumbleweeds in response. More often than not, the preponderance of ads on the list is distracting at best. I adhere to the rule and I expect others to, regardless of how they justify themselves. A $50 sale for me can make the difference between buying groceries or paying a bill, yet I post no more than one ad a week.(admittedly, once or twice in two+ years I have broken this rule) It's incredulous to think that someone with a million dollar collection needs sales so bad that the rules must broken, again and again. I could probably use the sales more than 99% of the rule breakers. When was the last time the big dealers rolled coins to buy gas or groceries? All of this is moot anyway - the only opinion on this issue that matters is Art's. Until he chimes in, all of this discord is pointless. Like someone else said before - contact Art in private and discuss this with him. There are 1000+ people here to learn about meteorites - I would wager that most of them don't care to hear all of this belly-aching over advertisements. Back to my original point - many of the best discussions on this list (in my ~2 years here) have not centered around ads. I can cite examples from the archives, but again - I'm not Art, so who cares? A piece of friendly advice for the anti-ad crowd - use your inbox filters! I haven't seen an ad from any of the rule breakers in months - they go straight to my junk bin. Best regards and clear skies, MikeG PS - AD! - I have Udei Station, Gibeon and Seymchan etched slices available for sale! Contact me offlist for details. These are not on my website and come from my collection cabinet. :) On 10/15/09, michael cottingham wrote: Hello, DITTO. Also the days when we had the MOST ads, were the most productive on the list. THE BEST TOPICS. THE BEST CONVERSTION ON METEORITES COINCIDED WITH THE MOST ADS. So a big part of this whole topic is BULLSHIT. If you really want to do it right for THE FIRST TIME -have a real vote. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS LIST LONGER THAN 70% of the folks on this list. So if you want a true historical perspective maybe ask someone who's been here a lot longer than the critics... Michael Cottingham On Oct 15, 2009, at 12:13 PM, dean bessey wrote: This is flat out wrong. There never was any consensus. Art went on record as saying that he did not mind ads. What happened was that 4 or 5 people decided that they would hijack Art's list as if it was their own and decide to prevent people from making "to many" (Whatever that means) ads. After months and months of bombarding the list with anti ad attack postings Art basically tried to shut up the malcontents that dont appriciate the fact that they have the privelidge being a part of what is basically the best online meteorite forum and said "OK, one a week
[meteorite-list] One ad per week, one pet per sailor - parrots preferred.
Hi List, "THE BEST TOPICS. THE BEST CONVERSTION ON METEORITES COINCIDED WITH THE MOST ADS." I respectfully disagree here. I've seen perfectly good questions about meteoritics posted in the past, only to hear crickets and see tumbleweeds in response. More often than not, the preponderance of ads on the list is distracting at best. I adhere to the rule and I expect others to, regardless of how they justify themselves. A $50 sale for me can make the difference between buying groceries or paying a bill, yet I post no more than one ad a week.(admittedly, once or twice in two+ years I have broken this rule) It's incredulous to think that someone with a million dollar collection needs sales so bad that the rules must broken, again and again. I could probably use the sales more than 99% of the rule breakers. When was the last time the big dealers rolled coins to buy gas or groceries? All of this is moot anyway - the only opinion on this issue that matters is Art's. Until he chimes in, all of this discord is pointless. Like someone else said before - contact Art in private and discuss this with him. There are 1000+ people here to learn about meteorites - I would wager that most of them don't care to hear all of this belly-aching over advertisements. Back to my original point - many of the best discussions on this list (in my ~2 years here) have not centered around ads. I can cite examples from the archives, but again - I'm not Art, so who cares? A piece of friendly advice for the anti-ad crowd - use your inbox filters! I haven't seen an ad from any of the rule breakers in months - they go straight to my junk bin. Best regards and clear skies, MikeG PS - AD! - I have Udei Station, Gibeon and Seymchan etched slices available for sale! Contact me offlist for details. These are not on my website and come from my collection cabinet. :) On 10/15/09, michael cottingham wrote: > Hello, > > DITTO. Also the days when we had the MOST ads, were the most > productive on the list. THE BEST TOPICS. THE BEST CONVERSTION ON > METEORITES COINCIDED WITH THE MOST ADS. So a big part of this whole > topic is BULLSHIT. If you really want to do it right for THE FIRST > TIME -have a real vote. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS LIST LONGER THAN 70% of > the folks on this list. So if you want a true historical perspective > maybe ask someone who's been here a lot longer than the critics... > > Michael Cottingham > On Oct 15, 2009, at 12:13 PM, dean bessey wrote: > >> > about advertising in his forum. Advertising is a privilege, not a >> right and Art was considering having no ads at all due to abuse. >> The consensus, at the time, was that way too many ads were being >> posted and that one-ad-per-week should be a rule. List members >> input was taken into account so this was not only Art's wishes but >> the majority of other members as well.> >>> >>> >> This is flat out wrong. There never was any consensus. Art went on >> record as saying that he did not mind ads. >> What happened was that 4 or 5 people decided that they would hijack >> Art's list as if it was their own and decide to prevent people from >> making "to many" (Whatever that means) ads. After months and months >> of bombarding the list with anti ad attack postings Art basically >> tried to shut up the malcontents that dont appriciate the fact that >> they have the privelidge being a part of what is basically the best >> online meteorite forum and said "OK, one a week". >> Then, rather than shut up, these 4 or 5 people decide to declare >> themselves sherrif and kept going on with this anti ad campaign and >> even the most minor offence (Even during big shows like tucson and >> munich) was enough to make attack postings. They decided to continue >> making an ass of themselves and continue their efforts to hijack >> arts list as if it was their own. >> Then after people started leaving the list because of all these >> attack postings they had the gall to claim that "They left because >> of the ads". (The fact that people werent leaving before their >> hijacking and attacking efforts is conveniently ignored). >> Nobody leaves this list because of the ads (Well there may have been >> 2 or 3 people who left because they are to stupid to use the delete >> button or block sender button in their email settings and dislaike >> the fact that people are allowed to own meteorites like the cultural >> property people in some governments but its an insignificant few). >> People leave because of the bickering. Dont try and twist it around >> that its not because of those 4 or 5 people that is basically >> ruining things for everybody. >> Becides why are you 4 or 5 people constantly harrassing the other >> 1000 of us with your diatrabes? An iq of about six would enable you >> to understand that the only person who matters is art so why dont >> you email him rather than the rest of us who cant do anything even >> if we did buy the fact that you somehow have the right to >
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
Mike, Your point is moot. Mike Cottingham is not a member of the IMCA. Neither is Steve Arnold (Chicago) and Bill Kies. The Membership List is published on the IMCA website, and regularly updated. You might want to look at it: _http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_cb_search&task=usersList&Itemid=11_ (http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_cb_search&task=usersList&Itemid=11) Thank you. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 5/1/2009 6:41:26 PM Mountain Daylight Time, meteoritem...@gmail.com writes: It's probably a poor analogy, but here goes : If someone wins the Miss America crown, they are expected to behave a certain way in public because that behavior reflects upon the Miss America institution. The same can be said for many organizations whose members interact with the public - they must uphold the expectations placed upon them by their affiliations. Furthermore, public perception often carries more weight than the actions of the person in question. I'm not one of those list members who maintains a tally sheet of who posts how many ads and when - I am not that anal. But when the issue becomes a point of contention in a public forum, those affiliated with the person in question must examine how these behaviors reflect upon the organization as a whole. Chicago Steve was not an IMCA member, AFAIK. I don't know about Mr. Cottingham. Is he a member? If not, then this point of mine is moot. If he is a member, then my original point stands - any organization concerned with it's image should ensure that it's members (representatives to the public) obey all rules of etiquette demanded by a particular venue they choose to participate in. To flaunt the rules not only reflects poorly in the individual doing it, it reflects poorly on any group or organization they represent. That's all I was trying to say. FWIW, I have no personal issue with Mr. Cottingham. He's always been square with me when we have done some minor deals. Seems like a nice guy. But his recent posting of multiple ads in defiance of the rules has caused some bickering on this list and it looks bad - for all concerned, regardless of what explanations are behind it. Perception is often more important than substance - especially when commercial enterprises are concerned. Best regards, MikeG On 5/1/09, Mark Crawford wrote: > Mike, I don't understand what point you're trying to make here. > > IMCA is IMCA, MetList is an open email forum (very lightly) moderated by > Art. They are not in any way related, other than the obvious fact that > the community is small, many IMCA members are list members, and vice versa. > > If you're suggesting that IMCA should 'do something' about Bill's > comments, according to the web site he's not a member; IMCA therefore > has no jurisdiction. If you're talking about someone else then I'm just > confused. > > ? > > Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: >> What kills me if that the IMCA looks the other way while it's members >> make a mockery of Art's rules. >> >> Apparently they aren't concerned too much about their public image. >> Other organizations would give the boot to members who flagrantly >> violate rules of public venues. Not only are the rules selectively >> enforced here on the list, but apparently the IMCA follows a similar >> strategy. - > Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc **Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221673648x1201419171/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html%3Fcat%3Dadbuy%26 src%3Dplatforma%26adid%3Dfooter:050109%26newurl%3Dreg_path.html) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
It's probably a poor analogy, but here goes : If someone wins the Miss America crown, they are expected to behave a certain way in public because that behavior reflects upon the Miss America institution. The same can be said for many organizations whose members interact with the public - they must uphold the expectations placed upon them by their affiliations. Furthermore, public perception often carries more weight than the actions of the person in question. I'm not one of those list members who maintains a tally sheet of who posts how many ads and when - I am not that anal. But when the issue becomes a point of contention in a public forum, those affiliated with the person in question must examine how these behaviors reflect upon the organization as a whole. Chicago Steve was not an IMCA member, AFAIK. I don't know about Mr. Cottingham. Is he a member? If not, then this point of mine is moot. If he is a member, then my original point stands - any organization concerned with it's image should ensure that it's members (representatives to the public) obey all rules of etiquette demanded by a particular venue they choose to participate in. To flaunt the rules not only reflects poorly in the individual doing it, it reflects poorly on any group or organization they represent. That's all I was trying to say. FWIW, I have no personal issue with Mr. Cottingham. He's always been square with me when we have done some minor deals. Seems like a nice guy. But his recent posting of multiple ads in defiance of the rules has caused some bickering on this list and it looks bad - for all concerned, regardless of what explanations are behind it. Perception is often more important than substance - especially when commercial enterprises are concerned. Best regards, MikeG On 5/1/09, Mark Crawford wrote: > Mike, I don't understand what point you're trying to make here. > > IMCA is IMCA, MetList is an open email forum (very lightly) moderated by > Art. They are not in any way related, other than the obvious fact that > the community is small, many IMCA members are list members, and vice versa. > > If you're suggesting that IMCA should 'do something' about Bill's > comments, according to the web site he's not a member; IMCA therefore > has no jurisdiction. If you're talking about someone else then I'm just > confused. > > ? > > Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: >> What kills me if that the IMCA looks the other way while it's members >> make a mockery of Art's rules. >> >> Apparently they aren't concerned too much about their public image. >> Other organizations would give the boot to members who flagrantly >> violate rules of public venues. Not only are the rules selectively >> enforced here on the list, but apparently the IMCA follows a similar >> strategy. >> >> >> > > > -- > Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc > > -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
Bill, I don't often waste precious time getting involved in such obvious drivel, but it's obvious to everyone with one exception that this non-issue has taken up enough bandwidth, delete strokes and patience of the "silent majority" of the List. You've made your point Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "bill kies" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea! I enjoy ads. Ads are the life blood of the meteorite world. Ads are educational. If people were not making money there would be so much less motivation to scour the world at their own expense. We'd have to depend on the sorry few, institutionalized characters, that would have us believe that they are the custodians of all things meteoric as they do nothing. Much like archaeologists that insist amateurs can't be sanctioned to excavate in front of the bulldosers. Ads are beautiful, once a week. GeoZ. I'm surprised at your take on this. I've never seen a rule breaker survive over at meteorobs. From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:03:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea! I may be in the silent majority or minority but I actually enjoy going thru each AD on this list. No matter if it's the same seller with ADS several times a week. I've picked up quite a few deals offered. Perhaps it's because I'm so new in collecting meteorites that it's fun to get new pieces vs. the older collectors that already have everything and is tired of hearing about it. Thanks! Carl PS. I hope you all don't kill me if there is a sudden deluge of ADs all of a sudden! _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
Mike, I don't understand what point you're trying to make here. IMCA is IMCA, MetList is an open email forum (very lightly) moderated by Art. They are not in any way related, other than the obvious fact that the community is small, many IMCA members are list members, and vice versa. If you're suggesting that IMCA should 'do something' about Bill's comments, according to the web site he's not a member; IMCA therefore has no jurisdiction. If you're talking about someone else then I'm just confused. ? Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: What kills me if that the IMCA looks the other way while it's members make a mockery of Art's rules. Apparently they aren't concerned too much about their public image. Other organizations would give the boot to members who flagrantly violate rules of public venues. Not only are the rules selectively enforced here on the list, but apparently the IMCA follows a similar strategy. -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
>>GeoZ. I'm surprised at your take on this. I've never seen a rule breaker survive over at meteorobs.<< And you don't see much activity over there either. Most of my posts gets shelved for days/weeks at a time that it's not worth the bother by the time they do.Too many stringent rules stifle activity. GeoZay **Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221673648x1201419171/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html%3Fcat%3Dadbuy%26 src%3Dplatforma%26adid%3Dfooter:050109%26newurl%3Dreg_path.html) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
What kills me if that the IMCA looks the other way while it's members make a mockery of Art's rules. Apparently they aren't concerned too much about their public image. Other organizations would give the boot to members who flagrantly violate rules of public venues. Not only are the rules selectively enforced here on the list, but apparently the IMCA follows a similar strategy. On 5/1/09, bill kies wrote: > > I enjoy ads. Ads are the life blood of the meteorite world. Ads are > educational. If people were not making money there would be so much less > motivation to scour the world at their own expense. We'd have to depend on > the sorry few, institutionalized characters, that would have us believe that > they are the custodians of all things meteoric as they do nothing. Much like > archaeologists that insist amateurs can't be sanctioned to excavate in front > of the bulldosers. > > Ads are beautiful, once a week. > > GeoZ. I'm surprised at your take on this. I've never seen a rule breaker > survive over at meteorobs. > > > > >> From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:03:04 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea! >> >> >> >> I may be in the silent majority or minority but I actually enjoy going >> thru each AD on this list. No matter if it's the same seller with ADS >> several times a week. I've picked up quite a few deals offered. Perhaps >> it's because I'm so new in collecting meteorites that it's fun to get new >> pieces vs. the older collectors that already have everything and is tired >> of hearing about it. Thanks! >> >> Carl >> >> PS. I hope you all don't kill me if there is a sudden deluge of ADs all of >> a sudden! >> >> _ >> Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. >> http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
I enjoy ads. Ads are the life blood of the meteorite world. Ads are educational. If people were not making money there would be so much less motivation to scour the world at their own expense. We'd have to depend on the sorry few, institutionalized characters, that would have us believe that they are the custodians of all things meteoric as they do nothing. Much like archaeologists that insist amateurs can't be sanctioned to excavate in front of the bulldosers. Ads are beautiful, once a week. GeoZ. I'm surprised at your take on this. I've never seen a rule breaker survive over at meteorobs. > From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:03:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea! > > > > I may be in the silent majority or minority but I actually enjoy going thru > each AD on this list. No matter if it's the same seller with ADS several > times a week. I've picked up quite a few deals offered. Perhaps it's because > I'm so new in collecting meteorites that it's fun to get new pieces vs. the > older collectors that already have everything and is tired of hearing about > it. Thanks! > > Carl > > PS. I hope you all don't kill me if there is a sudden deluge of ADs all of a > sudden! > > _ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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>>On the other hand, I am on the list for science information, and on any chance of a Wyoming fall. I buy my meteorites from trusted associates I have known for years and don't need to shop farther than them. I bet better prices from them than these hot sale offers. My finger gets tired of delete, delete, delete delete, HOT SALE DELETE DELETE DELETE AND THIS IS IN MY SPAM BOX, << As for the science information goes, I think there is a fair amount of that being posted. The ads haven't crowded them out for me, nor have the science info crowded any of the ads. My god man...if your finger gets tired hitting the delete button, you need to do more than exercising your finger. Try some jumping jacks. :O) I don't shop for the sales...I shop for the bargains, wherever they may creep up at. I've found that if one is patient enuf, a bargain crops up once in awhile. I know what I want and hang in the back ground till I come across the offer. Just because I have a certain amount of money available, doesn't mean I'm gonna spend it foolishly. GeoZay **Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221673648x1201419171/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html%3Fcat%3Dadbuy%26 src%3Dplatforma%26adid%3Dfooter:050109%26newurl%3Dreg_path.html) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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>>After all, everyone was jumping all over Steve Arnold for his ads, but it seems the same are ready to defend others for the same thing... Isnt that a little odd?<< There might be some on this topic a little wishy washy, but I for one defended Steve to make his ad posts as I'm in favor of others that are doing it now. I personally wondered once Steve leaves, who was gonna take up the banner of being the whipping boy on this list and who were gonna do the "whipping". :O) GeoZay **Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221673648x1201419171/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html%3Fcat%3Dadbuy%26 src%3Dplatforma%26adid%3Dfooter:050109%26newurl%3Dreg_path.html) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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How about no ADS at all, but commercial information allowed... ;-) Think we all have a del-key in our keyboards. best, pekka s geo...@aol.com kirjoitti: I may be in the silent majority or minority but I actually enjoy going thru each AD on this list. No matter if it's the same seller with ADS several times a week. I've picked up quite a few deals offered. Perhaps it's because I'm so new in collecting meteorites that it's fun to get new pieces vs. the older collectors that already have everything and is tired of hearing about it. Thanks! Carl<< I agree with you whole heartedly. For example, I get a lot of Eric Wichmann's ads over his private list and I often take a looksy...even though I haven't bought anything since he's formed that list. But I like to see what he's offering and someday I just might see that particular goody and will make a purchase. Whenever I get tired of a certain individual's ad, I know where my delete button is and I can easily recognize Eric's email address. The same goes for Cottingham's offers. I think he's a bit high priced, but I like looking at them all the same. My wife and I agreed on how much I will spend on such trinkets on a monthly basis, thus I'm a little descriminating with my purchases. GeoZay **Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221673648x1201419171/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html%3Fcat%3Dadbuy%26 src%3Dplatforma%26adid%3Dfooter:050109%26newurl%3Dreg_path.html) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.12/2090 - Release Date: 05/01/09 06:17:00 -- Solar Gems Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FI-71330 Rasala FINLAND GSM + 358 400 818 912 pekka.savolai...@dlc.fi Member of IMCA 5776 www.imca.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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>>I may be in the silent majority or minority but I actually enjoy going thru each AD on this list. No matter if it's the same seller with ADS several times a week. I've picked up quite a few deals offered. Perhaps it's because I'm so new in collecting meteorites that it's fun to get new pieces vs. the older collectors that already have everything and is tired of hearing about it. Thanks! Carl<< I agree with you whole heartedly. For example, I get a lot of Eric Wichmann's ads over his private list and I often take a looksy...even though I haven't bought anything since he's formed that list. But I like to see what he's offering and someday I just might see that particular goody and will make a purchase. Whenever I get tired of a certain individual's ad, I know where my delete button is and I can easily recognize Eric's email address. The same goes for Cottingham's offers. I think he's a bit high priced, but I like looking at them all the same. My wife and I agreed on how much I will spend on such trinkets on a monthly basis, thus I'm a little descriminating with my purchases. GeoZay **Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221673648x1201419171/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html%3Fcat%3Dadbuy%26 src%3Dplatforma%26adid%3Dfooter:050109%26newurl%3Dreg_path.html) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I may be in the silent majority or minority but I actually enjoy going thru each AD on this list. No matter if it's the same seller with ADS several times a week. I've picked up quite a few deals offered. Perhaps it's because I'm so new in collecting meteorites that it's fun to get new pieces vs. the older collectors that already have everything and is tired of hearing about it. Thanks! Carl PS. I hope you all don't kill me if there is a sudden deluge of ADs all of a sudden! _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello all, I take pleasure in contributing to the topic of "who are your favorite dealers. My list follows: 1) Dean Bessy: Dean has always given a good product for a very reasonable price. I've never been disappointed with his meteorites. I realize that he mainly deals in NWAs, but I have no problem with that. He has been a gentleman and has worked with me in making the deals smoothly and efficiently. Once again: Dean doesn't charge an arm and a leg for his stuff. 2) Eric Twelker: Another gentleman whose merchandise is also very reasonably priced. Eric has also taken the time to help inform me privately about certain meteorites that I've bought from him. Once again: Eric also doesn't charge an arm and a leg for his stuff. 3) Jack Lacroix: Jack is my best source for Campo Del Cielos (one of my favorite meteorites, cuz they look so cool). His merchandise is top quality and his prices are superb. He also has been very kind to methe novice. Once again: Jack doesn't charge an arm and a leg for his stuff. (Beginning to see a trend here?) 4) Michael Cottingham: Michael has a wide variety of meteorites that are "way cool" and he has priced many of them within my meager reach. Thanks Michael. He has always sent me my meteorites promptly and I've never been disappointed. One last time: Michael also does not charge an arm and a leg for his stuff. For what it's worth, that's my list. Greg Lindh > From: starsandsco...@aol.com > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:42:34 -0400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea! > > I agree with Dean, the negative vibe on this list has been high. I can > think of several people whom I respect in the meteorite world (some who work > in teaching and or research) that will not use the list because of this > atmosphere. > > Let's face it, the list is about communication of information on > meteorites. That might be scientific information or sales information. Were > all > collectors so it's "ALL GOOD"! Abuse of advertising should be addressed by > the list administrator ONLY! All sounding off from anyone about anything > related to advertising does harm to the list and it's reputation (right now > it has earned a very hostile reputation). > > My idea? Let's start a new thread on your favorite dealers. > > I'll start and I'll start with Dean Bessey. Dean was one of the first > dealers to offer beautiful unclassified NWA's for (at the time) unheard of > low > prices. No where could you get large beautiful meteorites for the price > he was asking. It is because of Dean I got hooked on meteorites. Over many > years I have purchased over 200 Kg (no kidding) from him and have loved > every one. > > Dean has launched many new meteorite collectors. > > Thanks Dean, Tom Phillips > > In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:06:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > deanbes...@yahoo.com writes: > > How about we make a new rule. > "Only one bitching about it posting allowed per ad posting" > Cheers > DEAN > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: > >> From: bill kies >> Subject: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:32 PM >> Fair play for all. >> _ >> Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online >> storage. >> http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the > web. Get the Radio Toolbar! > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
Hi Tom and List! I am one of those people who has, on occasion, stuck my foot into my considerable mouth here on this list. In some way, I have contributed to the negative atmosphere at times. I have sincerely apologized for those couple of rants I posted and I have tried to maintain a sense of positive decorum since then. Recently I poked fun at Michael Cottingham and his ads with my own parody ad - which I hope was taken in good spirit because there was no hostile intent behind it. But I have to agree here with Tom on the point of group moderation. Whether the venue is a email list or a message board/forum, the moderating should be left to the moderators and/or administrator. Unlike most forum scripts which have a "notify moderator" button on each post, this list does not have that function. In the future, I suggest that those with complaints about other users should direct those complaints off-list to the offending person in question, or to the list administrator. As for Tom's idea of praising our favorite dealers, I will chime in here I have a lot of favored trading partners, but some have really stood out above the rest in recent weeks - John Humphries (Arizona Johnny) Eric Twelker of Meteorite Market Derik Bower Noah Daleo Greg Catterton Roman Jirasek Rob Wesel Mike Jensen And yes, Dean Bessey - I look forward to opening my latest package from down under. :) There are others I am forgetting, so my apologies to those I have overlooked. Best regards, MikeG On 4/30/09, starsandsco...@aol.com wrote: > I agree with Dean, the negative vibe on this list has been high. I can > think of several people whom I respect in the meteorite world (some who > work > in teaching and or research) that will not use the list because of this > atmosphere. > > Let's face it, the list is about communication of information on > meteorites. That might be scientific information or sales information. > Were all > collectors so it's "ALL GOOD"! Abuse of advertising should be addressed by > the list administrator ONLY! All sounding off from anyone about anything > related to advertising does harm to the list and it's reputation (right now > it has earned a very hostile reputation). > > My idea? Let's start a new thread on your favorite dealers. > > I'll start and I'll start with Dean Bessey. Dean was one of the first > dealers to offer beautiful unclassified NWA's for (at the time) unheard of > low > prices. No where could you get large beautiful meteorites for the price > he was asking. It is because of Dean I got hooked on meteorites. Over > many > years I have purchased over 200 Kg (no kidding) from him and have loved > every one. > > Dean has launched many new meteorite collectors. > > Thanks Dean, Tom Phillips > > In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:06:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > deanbes...@yahoo.com writes: > > How about we make a new rule. > "Only one bitching about it posting allowed per ad posting" > Cheers > DEAN > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: > >> From: bill kies >> Subject: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:32 PM >> Fair play for all. >> _ >> Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online >> storage. >> http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the > web. Get the Radio Toolbar! > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK I have an idea!
I agree with Dean, the negative vibe on this list has been high. I can think of several people whom I respect in the meteorite world (some who work in teaching and or research) that will not use the list because of this atmosphere. Let's face it, the list is about communication of information on meteorites. That might be scientific information or sales information. Were all collectors so it's "ALL GOOD"! Abuse of advertising should be addressed by the list administrator ONLY! All sounding off from anyone about anything related to advertising does harm to the list and it's reputation (right now it has earned a very hostile reputation). My idea? Let's start a new thread on your favorite dealers. I'll start and I'll start with Dean Bessey. Dean was one of the first dealers to offer beautiful unclassified NWA's for (at the time) unheard of low prices. No where could you get large beautiful meteorites for the price he was asking. It is because of Dean I got hooked on meteorites. Over many years I have purchased over 200 Kg (no kidding) from him and have loved every one. Dean has launched many new meteorite collectors. Thanks Dean, Tom Phillips In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:06:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, deanbes...@yahoo.com writes: How about we make a new rule. "Only one bitching about it posting allowed per ad posting" Cheers DEAN --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: > From: bill kies > Subject: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:32 PM > Fair play for all. > _ > Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online > storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The list is a constant exchange of ideas that I have the pleasure, the honor, to participate in. Like proud Tom the falcon guy. You are a blustering pitch man gone askew and I'm sure the sales of your weathered crap, south seas pearls and all the rest are doing poorly or you wouldn't be bothering with this conversation. > From: parkforest...@hotmail.com > To: deanbes...@yahoo.com > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:19:03 -0500 > > > The list is a constant exchange of ideas that I have the pleasure, the honor, > to participate in. Like proud Tom the falcon guy. You are a blustering pitch > man gone askew and I'm sure the sales of your weathered crap, south seas > pearls and all the rest are doing poorly or you wouldn't be bothering with > this conversation. > > >> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:03:13 -0700 >> From: deanbes...@yahoo.com >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK >> >> >> How about we make a new rule. >> "Only one bitching about it posting allowed per ad posting" >> Cheers >> DEAN >> >> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: >> >>> From: bill kies >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK >>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:32 PM >>> Fair play for all. >>> _ >>> Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online >>> storage. >>> http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 >>> __ >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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How about we make a new rule. "Only one bitching about it posting allowed per ad posting" Cheers DEAN --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: > From: bill kies > Subject: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:32 PM > Fair play for all. > _ > Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online > storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK
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GREAT IDEA, FORWARD THE OFFENDING SPAM ADDS BACK TO THE SENDER. WHEN THE MAIL BOX GETS FULL OF DELETE THIS SPAMS...THE IDEA GETS PRIORITY. Dave F. dean bessey wrote: You know the list would be a lot more pleasant if we had less emails complaining about ads than the ads themselves. If you look though the archaives art is on record as saying that he dont care and the list rules actually hasnt been updated. The list rule comment was only put on to satisify 3 or 4 complaining people who made more complaint postings than the ads themselves who like being in control of things (And who ironically often has their own version of the rules and ways to supposedly make multiple sale postings that dont violat rules such as making the sales desguised as info postings or something - therby breaking rules and still staying holier than thau but staying the high road in complaining about other people). Get a life guys. Dont you have better things to do than complain about than having to delete 3 extra pieces of spam in the dozens or hundreds that you get every day. Even the habitual rule breakers clearly state their postings as ads making it easy to delete for those not wanting the ads (Unlike some of the ads announcing "the latest greatest meteorite ever until tomorrows latest greatest meteorite ever" ad). Lets talk about something important - like all of my new NWAs that I will have in munich. Now thats the latest greatest meteorite news ever. If you dont like the ads just delete my munich sales without reading them. Go get a life and stop bitching like a bunch of miserable crousty old ladies talking politics and old boyfriends at a bookclub meeting and have fun with meteorites. Thats what this list is for. DEAN Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
At 03:33 AM 29/10/2006, you wrote: Get a life guys. Dont you have better things to do than complain about than having to delete 3 extra pieces of spam in the dozens or hundreds that you get every day. Even the habitual rule breakers clearly state their postings as ads making it easy to delete for those not wanting the ads (Unlike some of the ads announcing "the latest greatest meteorite ever until tomorrows latest greatest meteorite ever" ad). I usually don't get dragged in these debates since I much prefer to lurk. However, I do object to the above; it sounds suspiciously like the empty justifications and rhetoric you get from spammers: "Use the delete key". In case some people have forgotten it, computers are usually located in members' *private* homes. What right do you have to a) break an established rule on this list and b) to impose these extra ads on members on the rather shaky ground that "Dont you have better things to do than complain about than having to delete 3 extra pieces of spam in the dozens or hundreds that you get every day" on members' *personal* computers ? Yes, the List is about meteorites; so let's talk about them. Andre Bordeleau -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 27/10/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
You know the list would be a lot more pleasant if we had less emails complaining about ads than the ads themselves. If you look though the archaives art is on record as saying that he dont care and the list rules actually hasnt been updated. The list rule comment was only put on to satisify 3 or 4 complaining people who made more complaint postings than the ads themselves who like being in control of things (And who ironically often has their own version of the rules and ways to supposedly make multiple sale postings that dont violat rules such as making the sales desguised as info postings or something - therby breaking rules and still staying holier than thau but staying the high road in complaining about other people). Get a life guys. Dont you have better things to do than complain about than having to delete 3 extra pieces of spam in the dozens or hundreds that you get every day. Even the habitual rule breakers clearly state their postings as ads making it easy to delete for those not wanting the ads (Unlike some of the ads announcing "the latest greatest meteorite ever until tomorrows latest greatest meteorite ever" ad). Lets talk about something important - like all of my new NWAs that I will have in munich. Now thats the latest greatest meteorite news ever. If you dont like the ads just delete my munich sales without reading them. Go get a life and stop bitching like a bunch of miserable crousty old ladies talking politics and old boyfriends at a bookclub meeting and have fun with meteorites. Thats what this list is for. DEAN Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] one AD per week rule.
I don't remember any exceptions written into the one AD per week rule. It's pretty simple and until Art says otherwise it should be respected. A lot of dealers as well as "dealers" would bury us with mindless garbage and hype if not for this basic guideline. 10 kilo lunar in your attic or not. One AD per week works. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
Man, Where do you find this stuff??!! It's most always right on target and definitely HUMORUS but you gotta live on line!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: RE: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:53:09 +, you wrote: Not honoring this rule when everybody else does is just plan disrespectful. David, Take for instance, the long lines at the Disneyworld zoo where you work in Orlando. If somebody were to take cuts to the front of one of these long lines and damage the air with a methane release right in front of you, most would consider this pretty rude. at disneyworld they have something known as a fast pass (or is it a speed pass) allowing you to cut infront of the line and wait 5 minutes to get on your favorite ride instead of an hour. i'd say that most list members (including the owner) would agree that given the spectacular nature of the photos Mike linked he was just using a fast pass. I for one appreciated the amazing photos of Mike's great new iron. The "and you can buy some of it, too" part was pretty much an afterthought on it to me (especially since buying any of it is out of the question for me for the forseeable future). (Although it might be fun to make Mike eat the "cut in line" roach anyway http://wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=52629) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] One ad per week rule
A two-tiered system of rules? Ridiculous! Your post sounds like major boot-licking at the expense of the rest of the List. Just my one Canadian cent's worth. CHEERS! Pete From: "Bob Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] One ad per week rule Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:16:53 -0500 Adam, Maybe this one week rule should be reconsidered. Obviously it was implemented to eliminate spam. Major dealers like Mike and yourself should be able to post more often. You guys produce a significant amount of new and exciting material to validate more public offers. Im sure most of us want to know about whats new and don't want to be inconvenienced by some silly one week ad rule. I believe goofy Steve Arnold and his Campos Sales spamfest is what prompted Art to implement the rule. So why not take a chance and post an ad maybe twice a week. Im sure what you have to offer will be exceptional, don't you? Don't worry about the whiners on the list. They are here to stay. Hell, that's what they are here for. Just a few crybabies who only feel better about themselves if they are pointing their finger in the other direction. Go ahead Adam. Mike does it, why shouldn't you? Bob - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Silicated iron slices are here! AMAZING! What ever happen to the one ad per week rule? - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Silicated iron slices are here! AMAZING! http://meteoriteguy.com/collection/Patagoniairon.htm Take a look at this, I got a box full of slices today, and they are simply breathtaking! Marlin Cilz told me he has not cut a more beautful iron. What do the list members think the large emerald green crystals are? Pyroxene? Every slice seems to have one or two of them. The silicated and etch pattern in the silicated area reminds me a lot of Steinbach. The Smithsonian Institute will be doing the classification on this new iron. The work will be exhaustive and complete. I need to sell some now though, as I spent a lot of cash on the meteorite. The photos speak for themselves, this is one of he most beautiful Irons I have ever had my hands on! The price will be $5.00 gram, I have slices from about 80 grams up to almost 500 grams right now, more will be coming in a couple of weeks. I only have 7 slices right now, so email quick for a piece. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Say hello to the next generation of Search. Live Search try it now. http://www.live.com/?mkt=en-ca __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] One ad per week rule
Adam, Maybe this one week rule should be reconsidered. Obviously it was implemented to eliminate spam. Major dealers like Mike and yourself should be able to post more often. You guys produce a significant amount of new and exciting material to validate more public offers. Im sure most of us want to know about whats new and don't want to be inconvenienced by some silly one week ad rule. I believe goofy Steve Arnold and his Campos Sales spamfest is what prompted Art to implement the rule. So why not take a chance and post an ad maybe twice a week. Im sure what you have to offer will be exceptional, don't you? Don't worry about the whiners on the list. They are here to stay. Hell, that's what they are here for. Just a few crybabies who only feel better about themselves if they are pointing their finger in the other direction. Go ahead Adam. Mike does it, why shouldn't you? Bob - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Silicated iron slices are here! AMAZING! What ever happen to the one ad per week rule? - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Silicated iron slices are here! AMAZING! http://meteoriteguy.com/collection/Patagoniairon.htm Take a look at this, I got a box full of slices today, and they are simply breathtaking! Marlin Cilz told me he has not cut a more beautful iron. What do the list members think the large emerald green crystals are? Pyroxene? Every slice seems to have one or two of them. The silicated and etch pattern in the silicated area reminds me a lot of Steinbach. The Smithsonian Institute will be doing the classification on this new iron. The work will be exhaustive and complete. I need to sell some now though, as I spent a lot of cash on the meteorite. The photos speak for themselves, this is one of he most beautiful Irons I have ever had my hands on! The price will be $5.00 gram, I have slices from about 80 grams up to almost 500 grams right now, more will be coming in a couple of weeks. I only have 7 slices right now, so email quick for a piece. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:53:09 +, you wrote: > > >>Not honoring this rule when everybody else does is just plan disrespectful. >>David, Take for instance, the long lines at the Disneyworld zoo where you >>work in Orlando. If somebody were to take cuts to the front of one of >>these long lines and damage the air with a methane release right in front >>of you, most would consider this pretty rude. > >at disneyworld they have something known as a fast pass (or is it a speed >pass) allowing you to cut infront of the line and wait 5 minutes to get on >your favorite ride instead of an hour. i'd say that most list members >(including the owner) would agree that given the spectacular nature of the >photos Mike linked he was just using a fast pass. I for one appreciated the amazing photos of Mike's great new iron. The "and you can buy some of it, too" part was pretty much an afterthought on it to me (especially since buying any of it is out of the question for me for the forseeable future). (Although it might be fun to make Mike eat the "cut in line" roach anyway http://wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=52629) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
Not honoring this rule when everybody else does is just plan disrespectful. David, Take for instance, the long lines at the Disneyworld zoo where you work in Orlando. If somebody were to take cuts to the front of one of these long lines and damage the air with a methane release right in front of you, most would consider this pretty rude. at disneyworld they have something known as a fast pass (or is it a speed pass) allowing you to cut infront of the line and wait 5 minutes to get on your favorite ride instead of an hour. i'd say that most list members (including the owner) would agree that given the spectacular nature of the photos Mike linked he was just using a fast pass. _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
David, If you recall, Art took a poll about this very subject and the vast majority of the List members stated that anything more than one ad per week was excessive. Art then posted the one ad per week rule to the List. It seems that almost everybody honors this rule and it is more than just a "gentlemen's agreement." Not honoring this rule when everybody else does is just plan disrespectful. David, Take for instance, the long lines at the Disneyworld zoo where you work in Orlando. If somebody were to take cuts to the front of one of these long lines and damage the air with a methane release right in front of you, most would consider this pretty rude. Or maybe you wouldn't since you are used to being surrounding by the smell of animal fecal matter due to your profession. Adam - Original Message - From: "David Weir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Silicated iron slices are here! AMAZING! I think the rule should be amended to one ad per week per family. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list