[meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified with no locality. --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California desert, but not LA. Ted On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: > An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: > > http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge > > Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified > with no locality. > > --- > Mike Bandli > Historic Meteorites > www.HistoricMeteorites.com > IMCA #5765 > --- > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
And other like Lafayette are quite vague as well. But are there others that don't even have a home country? Phil On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ted Bunch wrote: > Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California > desert, but not LA. > > Ted > > > > On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: > >> An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge >> >> Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified >> with no locality. >> >> --- >> Mike Bandli >> Historic Meteorites >> www.HistoricMeteorites.com >> IMCA #5765 >> --- >> >> >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
Several list members emailed me privately regarding the "Nova" series of meteorites, whose localities are either unknown or questionable. Learn something new everyday :) --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: Phil Morgan [mailto:roxfromsp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:47 PM To: Ted Bunch Cc: Mike Bandli; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite And other like Lafayette are quite vague as well. But are there others that don't even have a home country? Phil On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ted Bunch wrote: > Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California > desert, but not LA. > > Ted > > > > On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: > >> An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge >> >> Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified >> with no locality. >> >> --- >> Mike Bandli >> Historic Meteorites >> www.HistoricMeteorites.com >> IMCA #5765 >> --- >> >> >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
Mike, Plus these other nine listed right on the Paris info page. NameStatus YearPlace TypeMassMetBull GoogleEarth ••Map all ↓ Notes 9 records found for meteorites from (unknown) with names that contain "*" (click on a name for more information; click in header to sort) Asarco Mexicana Official(unknown) Iron, IIIAB Nova 006Provisional (unknown) Unknown 70 g Nova 007Provisional (unknown) Unknown 12 g Nova 008Official<1972 (unknown) L6 4.2 kg 93 Nova 009Official<1972 (unknown) H4 7.3 kg 93 Paneth's Iron **Official1873(unknown) Iron, IIIE 150 kg 53 Paris **Official2001(unknown) CM 1370 g 97† Rio Bunge Official(unknown) L 11 g Smithsonian IronOfficial1881(unknown) Iron, IIAB 3.51 kg Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Ted Bunch wrote: > Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California > desert, but not LA. > > Ted > > > > On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: > > > An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge > > > > Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified > > with no locality. > > > > --- > > Mike Bandli > > Historic Meteorites > > www.HistoricMeteorites.com > > IMCA #5765 > > --- > > > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
Ted is absolutely right. These aren't isolated cases. It goes back much, much earlier than that, too. Besides the Indiana Martian from the 1930's found in a drawer, consider the cases of Zacatecas (1792), or, Durango (1800's) supposedly from Chihuahua, or jejeje - how about Tucson's own epic opera story (the Ring) ... also, did you know there is one official Iron named "California" which has worse locality info than Coahuila ... The fight has come a long way but history seems to repeat itself every now and then ... Holiday Cheers Doug -Original Message- From: Ted Bunch To: Mike Bandli ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 2:23 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California desert, but not LA. Ted On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified with no locality. --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
There was a question raised on this thread whether there are other classified meteorites that don't even have a home country for a locality? The answer is, "Yes!" By definition that is how the 9 "Unknowns" are defined (see Carl's previous post which lists the 9 other "Unknowns). Now to clear-up some other mis-information: You'll notice that Lafayette and Los Angeles are not on this "list of 9", so they are unrelated to a discussion about "unknown localities". I can't speak for Lafayette, but I sure can speak for Los Angeles. I can tell you that the problem with LA started 10 years ago. It all started with a simple mis-wording in the Met. Bulletin description: "The specimens may have been collected ~20 years ago in the Mojave Desert", should have been written as: "... were collected in the California Mojave Desert possibly as many as 20 years ago." So, for the benefit of those who are recent to this List, or in the past have been mis-informed, or are just overly impressionable to innuendo, rumors and the continual yammering on this List, allow me to make this clear one more time: I, Bob Verish, am the finder of the Los Angeles Meteorite and there is no question as to its locality - it was found in the California Mojave Desert. P.S. - Here's a good trivia question: What are the coordinates for the Lafayette (stone)? -- [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite cdtucson at cox.net cdtucson at cox.net Tue Dec 22 15:35:09 EST 2009 Mike, Plus these other nine listed right on the Paris info page. Name Status Year Place Type Mass MetBull GoogleEarth ••Map all ↓ Notes 9 records found for meteorites from (unknown) with names that contain "*" (click on a name for more information; click in header to sort) Asarco Mexicana Official (unknown) Iron, IIIAB Nova 006 Provisional (unknown) Unknown 70 g Nova 007 Provisional (unknown) Unknown 12 g Nova 008 Official <1972 (unknown) L6 4.2 kg 93 Nova 009 Official <1972 (unknown) H4 7.3 kg 93 Paneth's Iron ** Official 1873 (unknown) Iron, IIIE 150 kg 53 Paris ** Official 2001 (unknown) CM 1370 g 97† Rio Bunge Official (unknown) L 11 g Smithsonian Iron Official 1881 (unknown) Iron, IIAB 3.51 kg Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax > On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: > > An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: > > http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge > > Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially > classified with no locality. > > --- > Mike Bandli __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
Bob wrote: "What are the coordinates for the Lafayette (stone)?" Hi Bob, they are the coordinates of the Purdue University Earth Sciences Department where Farrington found the Lafayette nakhlite in a drawer in the geology department (1931). No doubt you can speak for Los Angeles. The question depends upon choosing your rigorous definition of exactly what constitutes a locality that we can agree upon (yeah, right). The locality of the Lafayette oriented stone would seem not to be known, and just to be another one of those cute reputed yarns - some African-American guy found it supposedly somewhere, and dug it out of a hole and then he disappeared after later giving it to Purdue. It appears not even known for sure whether it was found in Indiana. So that makes it a transported meteorite, right? Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Robert Verish To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 10:17 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite There was a question raised on this thread whether there are other classified meteorites that don't even have a home country for a locality? The answer is, "Yes!" By definition that is how the 9 "Unknowns" are defined (see Carl's previous post which lists the 9 other "Unknowns). Now to clear-up some other mis-information: You'll notice that Lafayette and Los Angeles are not on this "list of 9", so they are unrelated to a discussion about "unknown localities". I can't speak for Lafayette, but I sure can speak for Los Angeles. I can tell you that the problem with LA started 10 years ago. It all started with a simple mis-wording in the Met. Bulletin description: "The specimens may have been collected ~20 years ago in the Mojave Desert", should have been written as: "... were collected in the California Mojave Desert possibly as many as 20 years ago." So, for the benefit of those who are recent to this List, or in the past have been mis-informed, or are just overly impressionable to innuendo, rumors and the continual yammering on this List, allow me to make this clear one more time: I, Bob Verish, am the finder of the Los Angeles Meteorite and there is no question as to its locality - it was found in the California Mojave Desert. P.S. - Here's a good trivia question: What are the coordinates for the Lafayette (stone)? -- [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite cdtucson at cox.net cdtucson at cox.net Tue Dec 22 15:35:09 EST 2009 Mike, Plus these other nine listed right on the Paris info page. Name Status Year Place Type Mass MetBull GoogleEarth ••Map all ↓ Notes 9 records found for meteorites from (unknown) with names that contain "*" (click on a name for more information; click in header to sort) Asarco Mexicana Official (unknown) Iron, IIIAB Nova 006 Provisional (unknown) Unknown 70 g Nova 007 Provisional (unknown) Unknown 12 g Nova 008 Official <1972 (unknown) L6 4.2 kg 93 Nova 009 Official <1972 (unknown) H4 7.3 kg 93 Paneth's Iron ** Official 1873 (unknown) Iron, IIIE 150 kg 53 Paris ** Official 2001 (unknown) CM 1370 g 97† Rio Bunge Official (unknown) L 11 g Smithsonian Iron Official 1881 (unknown) Iron, IIAB 3.51 kg Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite: http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified with no locality. --- Mike Bandli __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
