Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools ($33, 040.00)

2010-03-03 Thread Mark Ford

Which is the 'tool'? -  the watch or the person that pays $33,000 for a 2mm x 
25mm slice of gibeon in an over polished gold case! -  Lol.

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Hello Listers,
 
Since we are on the topic of meteorites being used for tools, here is a 
$33,040.00 meteorite being used as a tool today, check it out.
 
http://www.electron-world.com/store/product.php?productid=34772
 
Shawn  Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools ($33, 040.00)

2010-03-03 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:12:51 -, you wrote:


Which is the 'tool'? -  the watch or the person that pays $33,000 for a 2mm x 
25mm slice of gibeon in an over polished gold case! -  Lol.


Answer: the person who thinks it is okay to slice up Gibeon into 2 mm x 25  mm
pieces to put into a watch.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-03 Thread al mitt

Greetings,

When Nininger went down to Mexico to buy Toluca Meteorites and make 
exchanges at the museum to start his program, he ran into Toluca Meteorites 
that were fabricated into tools by the locals. He purchased some of these 
and these are held by the ASU Collection. I took some photos of them while 
visiting. See article in current issue of Meteorite Magazine.


A detailed account can be read here about his trip. Best!

http://www.meteorite.com/nininger/nininger-moments-3.htm

http://www.meteorite.com/nininger/nininger-moments-4.htm

http://www.meteorite.com/nininger/nininger-moments-5.htm

--AL Mitterling

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List:

I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a 
tool; or if this has even been documented? I know there has knives made from 
irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose: 
perhaps a hammer for pounding. I cannot think of any other examples, but 
there may be more.


Thanks,

Greg S.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-03 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:51:49 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

Of course the Tucson Ring was used as an anvil.

http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_TUCSON.HTM

I grabbed that group of books from the torrent that was mentioned a while back--
one of them is about the Tucson ring.  Here they are in a zip if anyone wants
them:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/j0s6ee
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[meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Greg Stanley

List:

I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a 
tool; or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made from 
irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose: perhaps 
a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other examples, but there may be 
more.

Thanks,

Greg S.
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Richard Kowalski
Of course the Tucson Ring was used as an anvil.

http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_TUCSON.HTM

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 List:
 
 I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if
 it was used as a tool; or if this has even been
 documented?  I know there has knives made from irons, but
 I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose:
 perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other
 examples, but there may be more.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Greg S.
     
 
       
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Greg Hupe

Hey Greg S.,

The Tucson Ring was used as an anvil. There was a somewhat small iron at the 
Tucson Show that was used to pound in tent stakes, that was bought from a 
Moroccan dealer. I think the value would go up because the items were used 
by prehistoric man as a tool.


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Greg


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List:

I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a 
tool; or if this has even been documented? I know there has knives made from 
irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose: 
perhaps a hammer for pounding. I cannot think of any other examples, but 
there may be more.


Thanks,

Greg S.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Martin Horejsi coined the term Tool box  meteorite.  I think he wrote an 
article on the idea and there were many  more uses than I would of thought 
of.  He had a huge slice of a  meteorite that was used as a wheel chock to 
keep a wagon or cart from moving on  a hill.

I use a big NWA to set my hat on but we decided that does not  count unless 
it was a natural uses of the stone prior to knowing it was  special.  
Uses after it is a known meteorite are just a novelty and do  not make the 
stone a tool box meteorite.

Tom

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Of  course the Tucson Ring was used as an  anvil.

http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_TUCSON.HTM

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 Subject: [meteorite-list]  Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools
 To:  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 9:46  AM
 
 List:
 
 I was wondering if a meteorite would  be more desirable if
 it was used as a tool; or if this has even  been
 documented?  I know there has knives made from irons,  but
 I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose:
  perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other
  examples, but there may be more.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Greg  S.
  
  

   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread GeoZay
I believe the ancient Egyptians used meteorite  iron for some ritual tools? 
Also I think Eskimos used  iron pieces from  some huge meteorites up in the 
arctic for various tools...mainly for knives and  spears. 
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Darryl Pitt


hi greg

spear points, daggers, fish hooks and awls have been documented and  
such products are worth a great deal.


also consider the Inuit relied on cape york specimens as their sole  
source of iron until adm peary's swap meets.


d,



On Mar 2, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Greg Stanley wrote:



List:

I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was  
used as a tool; or if this has even been documented?  I know there  
has knives made from irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being  
used for some purpose: perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot  
think of any other examples, but there may be more.


Thanks,

Greg S.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Greg,

Richard's post echos my thoughts exactly... The Tucson Ring is one very 
famous example. There are/were numerous pieces of meteorite iron that 
were forged into tools and weapons of old including spears. See this 
article on Meteorite Times 
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/feb08.htm and knives here: 
http://www.cosmiccutlery.com/knives.html


All throughout ancient history cosmic iron has been made to serve man. 
Tools and weapons forged from meteorites are also very valuable.


Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA



On 3/2/2010 8:51 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote:

Of course the Tucson Ring was used as an anvil.

http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_TUCSON.HTM

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--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Greg Stanleystanleygr...@hotmail.com  wrote:

   

From: Greg Stanleystanleygr...@hotmail.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 9:46 AM

List:

I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if
it was used as a tool; or if this has even been
documented?  I know there has knives made from irons, but
I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose:
perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other
examples, but there may be more.

Thanks,

Greg S.
 
 
   
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread MeteorHntr
All,

Beaver, Oklahoma was used as a Jail  door stop.  ASU has a plant shucking 
tool of some sort made from Toluca,  Mexico if I remember correctly.  
Leoville, Kansas was used to help weigh  down a farm plow.  Willamette was used 
to 
as a water bowl in rituals.   Axtell, Texas was used as a door stop.  Many 
were used as door stops and as  weights to hold down chicken shed roofs.  
Sommervel County, Texas was found  in a stone wall, as was Bethune, Colorado as 
I recall.  One was used to  melt down to make gun barrells.  The list goes 
on and  on.

Steve



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stanleygr...@hotmail.com writes:

List:

I  was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a 
tool;  or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made 
from  irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose: 
perhaps a  hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other examples, but 
there may  be more.

Thanks,

Greg S.  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Folks,

Is there some definitive or authoritative list of tool-box meteorites?
 I know Martin H. did a wonderful article on them, and several people
can name a few, but does anyone keep an updated list (preferably
online)?

If not, then I think I have another project to undertake. :)

The recent falls page is here (and will stay updated) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls

I could do a similar page for tool meteorites. :)

Best regards,

MikeG


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 All,

 Beaver, Oklahoma was used as a Jail  door stop.  ASU has a plant shucking
 tool of some sort made from Toluca,  Mexico if I remember correctly.
 Leoville, Kansas was used to help weigh  down a farm plow.  Willamette was
 used to
 as a water bowl in rituals.   Axtell, Texas was used as a door stop.  Many
 were used as door stops and as  weights to hold down chicken shed roofs.
 Sommervel County, Texas was found  in a stone wall, as was Bethune, Colorado
 as
 I recall.  One was used to  melt down to make gun barrells.  The list goes
 on and  on.

 Steve



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 stanleygr...@hotmail.com writes:

 List:

 I  was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a
 tool;  or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made
 from  irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose:
 perhaps a  hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other examples, but
 there may  be more.

 Thanks,

 Greg S.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Greg Stanley

List:

Take a look at this Iron I bought in Tucson.  Weight is about 300 grams.

Thanks for all the responses - seems like there always something new to learn 
about meteorites.

Any thoughts?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9106...@n04/?saved=1

Greg S.


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 List:

 I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a 
 tool; or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made from 
 irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose: 
 perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other examples, but 
 there may be more.

 Thanks,

 Greg S.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Greg,

Very nice specimen.  It was obviously used as a tool.   :)

Now this has me wondering - could tool markings be faked to increase
the value of a specimen?  Is there any definitive way to test tool
markings to see how old they are?

This isn't in response to Greg's specimen, it's just a general
question while we are on the subject.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 3/2/10, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 List:

 Take a look at this Iron I bought in Tucson.  Weight is about 300 grams.

 Thanks for all the responses - seems like there always something new to
 learn about meteorites.

 Any thoughts?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/9106...@n04/?saved=1

 Greg S.

 
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 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:46:55 -0800
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools


 List:

 I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a
 tool; or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made
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 purpose: perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other
 examples, but there may be more.

 Thanks,

 Greg S.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Piper R.W. Hollier

Hi Greg, Richard, Greg, GeoZay, Darryl, Tom, Eric, Steve, Mike, and list,

The listing in the NHM Catalogue of Meteorites for Rodeo (Durango, 
Mexico) states: A mass of 97lb (44kg) was found about 7 miles NW of 
Rodeo and was used as an anvil for many years.


The text of an article by O.C. Farrington about the the Rodeo 
meteorite can be found here:


http://www.archive.org/stream/rodeometeorite31farr/rodeometeorite31farr_djvu.txt

Google Books (books.google.com) has scanned pages from Vagn 
Buchwald's Iron and Steel in Ancient Times, which describes in some 
detail how fragments of Coahuila, Toluca, Cape York, and other irons 
have been used as tools of various kinds. There's an interesting 
passage there about how the Inuit crafted nut-sized fragments of Cape 
York iron into useful items, using the largest masses as anvils and 
bringing in basaltic hammer stones from a location 50 km distant.


Best wishes to all,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread cdtucson
Greg,
Here is a Navajo Indian made chip inlaid belt buckle probably from the 1970's 
that is made of melted cast Canyon Diablo meteorite material. A tool used to 
hold up somebody's pants. see link;

http://tinypic.com/r/2zf38d0/6

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 I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as a 
 tool; or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made from 
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 perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other examples, but 
 there may be more.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Greg S.
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Uuuh please not...

I think the hammers were (marketing) tool enough

;-)



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Hi Folks,

Is there some definitive or authoritative list of tool-box meteorites?
 I know Martin H. did a wonderful article on them, and several people
can name a few, but does anyone keep an updated list (preferably
online)?

If not, then I think I have another project to undertake. :)

The recent falls page is here (and will stay updated) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls

I could do a similar page for tool meteorites. :)

Best regards,

MikeG


On 3/2/10, meteorh...@aol.com meteorh...@aol.com wrote:
 All,

 Beaver, Oklahoma was used as a Jail  door stop.  ASU has a plant shucking
 tool of some sort made from Toluca,  Mexico if I remember correctly.
 Leoville, Kansas was used to help weigh  down a farm plow.  Willamette was
 used to
 as a water bowl in rituals.   Axtell, Texas was used as a door stop.  Many
 were used as door stops and as  weights to hold down chicken shed roofs.
 Sommervel County, Texas was found  in a stone wall, as was Bethune,
Colorado
 as
 I recall.  One was used to  melt down to make gun barrells.  The list goes
 on and  on.

 Steve



 In a message dated 3/2/2010 10:47:11 A.M.  Central Standard Time,
 stanleygr...@hotmail.com writes:

 List:

 I  was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if it was used as
a
 tool;  or if this has even been documented?  I know there has knives made
 from  irons, but I'm talking more like an irons being used for some
purpose:
 perhaps a  hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other examples, but
 there may  be more.

 Thanks,

 Greg S.

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[meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools ($33, 040.00)

2010-03-02 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,
 
Since we are on the topic of meteorites being used for tools, here is a 
$33,040.00 meteorite being used as a tool today, check it out.
 
http://www.electron-world.com/store/product.php?productid=34772
 
Shawn  Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools

2010-03-02 Thread ensoramanda
Great example of a Taza meteorite used as an ancient tool here...photo from Dr 
Svend Buhl's site. Since Ensisheim last year this piece now sits proudly in my 
own collection.

3rd meteorite down on this page..

http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Meteoritensammlung_12.htm

Graham E, UK


 Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Of course the Tucson Ring was used as an anvil.
 
 http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_TUCSON.HTM
 
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  From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Value if used as Tools
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 9:46 AM
  
  List:
  
  I was wondering if a meteorite would be more desirable if
  it was used as a tool; or if this has even been
  documented?  I know there has knives made from irons, but
  I'm talking more like an irons being used for some purpose:
  perhaps a hammer for pounding.  I cannot think of any other
  examples, but there may be more.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Greg S.
      
  
        
    
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