[meteorite-list] RE: Lodranites in stony-iron ???

2005-08-12 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Pierre,

They (the NIPR) are obviously holding on to an older classification scheme.
The lodranites were originally grouped with the stony-irons before their
close relationship to the acapulcoites and the PACs were revealed through
modern research (such as O-isotopic studies, etc.). The siderophyres do
represent a somewhat anachronistic class of meteorites that consisted of
just one single member, Steinbach. Today, Steinbach is grouped with the IVA
iron meteorites, and it is considered as an anomalous silicated member of
this group. Nevertheless, it's tempting to compare Steinbach with the
pallasites, and to consider it as a true stony-iron ;-)

I hope this helps.

Best,
Norbert

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Hello to the List,

I'm reading a document published by the NIPR
(Antarctic meteorites japanese research center) and
I'm surprised to look at their classification page.

Lodranites and Siderophyres (?) are considered as
stony-iron meteorites.

Can someone tell me what are Siderophyres and why are
the Lodranites in stony-irons (I always thought they
were achondrites) ?

Best regards,

Pierre-Marie PELE
www.meteor-center.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Lodranites in stony-iron ???

2005-08-12 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello Confrère Pierre, Norbert, and List,

MASON B. (1962) Meteorites, p. 125:

The single siderophyre is the Steinbach meteorite (also known as Breitenbach
or Rittersgrün), which has been known since 1724. It consists of  a network
of nickel-iron which encloses granular aggregates of orhopyroxene and minor
tridymite, the nickel-iron and silicate being present in approximately equal
amounts. Accessory minerals are schreibersite (in the nickel-iron), chromite,
and troilite. The nickel-iron contains about 10% Ni and shows the Widman-
stätten structure. The orthopyroxene contains about 20 mole per cent FeSiO3,
and is therefore on the boundary between bronzite and hypersthene.

BTW: A siderite used to be a meteorite consisting almost entirely of metallic
minerals -   sideros being the Greek word for iron. The syllable phyre
usually says something contains coarse crystals, as phenocrysts, in a finer-
grained groundmass.


Best Perseid
wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] RE: Lodranites in stony-iron ??? - Steinbach pictures

2005-08-12 Thread Norbert Classen
Bernd quoted:

MASON B. (1962) Meteorites, p. 125:

The single siderophyre is the Steinbach meteorite (also known as
Breitenbach or Rittersgrün), which has been known since 1724. It consists of
a network of nickel-iron which encloses granular aggregates of orhopyroxene
and minor tridymite, the nickel-iron and silicate being present in
approximately equal. snip

Hi Bernd, Pierre, and All,

For those of you who prefer something visual, here are some photos of a 4.1g
Steinbach slice that resides in my collection since some years now:

http://www.timewarp.de/list/Steinbach01.jpg 

http://www.timewarp.de/list/Steinbach02.jpg 

http://www.timewarp.de/list/Steinbach03.jpg 

The last picture shows a collection number painted on one edge of the
specimen. Does anyone of you know of similar numbers? Any idea as to the
original collection? The number is ST0041, the ST possibly standing for
Steinbach? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

All the best,
Norbert

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Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Lodranites in stony-iron ??? - Steinbach pictures

2005-08-12 Thread tett
My guess is a private collection and the number is not a catalogue number 
but its weight.  4.1 grams.


Cheers,

tett


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Bernd quoted:

MASON B. (1962) Meteorites, p. 125:

The single siderophyre is the Steinbach meteorite (also known as
Breitenbach or Rittersgrün), which has been known since 1724. It consists of
a network of nickel-iron which encloses granular aggregates of orhopyroxene
and minor tridymite, the nickel-iron and silicate being present in
approximately equal. snip

Hi Bernd, Pierre, and All,

For those of you who prefer something visual, here are some photos of a 4.1g
Steinbach slice that resides in my collection since some years now:

http://www.timewarp.de/list/Steinbach01.jpg

http://www.timewarp.de/list/Steinbach02.jpg

http://www.timewarp.de/list/Steinbach03.jpg

The last picture shows a collection number painted on one edge of the
specimen. Does anyone of you know of similar numbers? Any idea as to the
original collection? The number is ST0041, the ST possibly standing for
Steinbach? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

All the best,
Norbert

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