Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations
Bernhard Rems wrote: Hmm... I never saw that Michael made accusations against Mauro Daniel. I can remember that he accused a certain Matteo - but this Matteo was banned from the list, if I remember correctly (or he said he would leave forever, don't quite remember), so I really don't understand what Mr. Daniel says here, especially as he always insisted on NOT being Matteo). This is a strange day today. Must be something in the air... Hi Bernhard, Yes, a strange day indeed. It's not a full moon either is it? Just like Mr. Brody saying he's not the infamous Joel Warren who was banned of the past. He admitted he always stuck up for Mike Farmer (just like Joel), but through the list archives only. I only signed up to stick up for my bro George Dubya. Yeah right. Guess everyone just gets addicted to this list and will do anything to get back on and stir some more...well...you know what. Now we have some Argentinian-Karaoke-list-terrorist running amuk. I sure hope he gets his unsubscribe request approved soon. Best for a non-political, non-hate email weekend, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations
Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place. The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is: Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references- Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted. Kind regards -John Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites Adam Hupe wrote: Mike, You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be able to blame yourself. It is unfortunate that good people will have been taken along the way. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there, saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell us? Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had something to do with that? ANSWER please. What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to them then sold the mass to you. Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better. I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London, American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont trade with me. Answer please. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings Hi Mike, Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember the Monahans meteorite! Will you ever show your face in Texas again after what you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie. How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the scientist's name who busted you stealing? How about the museums di you upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours. How many museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them? Mike you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because you are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific community. If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report more of your escapades. Tired of Mike's lies, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one scientists. Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore. Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy it from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc. Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your bullshit emails full of unnamed sources. Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite mailing list. Michael Farmer By the way How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out? and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3 meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have generated that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you have been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job of hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating. On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want anyone to go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right now, among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too. Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings Dear List, Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not politics
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations
Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to Mr.Farmer to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations on my accountFarmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how many fake informations write Farmer in this list! From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700 Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place. The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is: Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references- Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted. Kind regards -John Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites Adam Hupe wrote: Mike, You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be able to blame yourself. It is unfortunate that good people will have been taken along the way. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there, saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell us? Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had something to do with that? ANSWER please. What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to them then sold the mass to you. Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better. I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London, American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont trade with me. Answer please. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings Hi Mike, Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember the Monahans meteorite! Will you ever show your face in Texas again after what you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie. How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the scientist's name who busted you stealing? How about the museums di you upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours. How many museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them? Mike you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because you are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific community. If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report more of your escapades. Tired of Mike's lies, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one scientists. Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore. Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy it from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc. Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your bullshit emails full of unnamed sources. Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite mailing list. Michael Farmer By the way How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out? and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3 meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have generated that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you have been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job of hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating. On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want anyone to go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right now, among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too. Original Message
AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations
Hmm... I never saw that Michael made accusations against Mauro Daniel. I can remember that he accused a certain Matteo - but this Matteo was banned from the list, if I remember correctly (or he said he would leave forever, don't quite remember), so I really don't understand what Mr. Daniel says here, especially as he always insisted on NOT being Matteo). This is a strange day today. Must be something in the air... Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mauro Daniel Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. September 2004 21:10 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to Mr.Farmer to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations on my accountFarmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how many fake informations write Farmer in this list! From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700 Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place. The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is: Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references- Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted. Kind regards -John Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites Adam Hupe wrote: Mike, You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be able to blame yourself. It is unfortunate that good people will have been taken along the way. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there, saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell us? Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had something to do with that? ANSWER please. What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to them then sold the mass to you. Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better. I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London, American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont trade with me. Answer please. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings Hi Mike, Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember the Monahans meteorite! Will you ever show your face in Texas again after what you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie. How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the scientist's name who busted you stealing? How about the museums di you upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours. How many museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them? Mike you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because you are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific community. If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report more of your escapades. Tired of Mike's lies, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one scientists. Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore. Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy it from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc. Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your bullshit emails full of unnamed sources. Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations
John, Adam, and Greg, this thread went to far on all of our sides, it is time to step back and enjoy a nice Sunday (with exception of Greg, who is still very much in harms way). None of this helps any of us, and as usual, I get a little too excited about it all, when in the big scheme of the world, this little list means nothing. I will take a break, relax, and am going to Panama to enjoy a nice vacation with my wife, away from politics and meteorites soon. I have a ticket to Denver, but am not sure I will attend, as I am literally exaughsted from the non-stop travel lately. So all of you who are politically and meteoritically charged like I am, take a break, and enjoy life. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place. The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is: Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references- Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted. Kind regards -John Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites Adam Hupe wrote: Mike, You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be able to blame yourself. It is unfortunate that good people will have been taken along the way. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there, saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell us? Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had something to do with that? ANSWER please. What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to them then sold the mass to you. Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better. I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London, American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont trade with me. Answer please. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings Hi Mike, Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember the Monahans meteorite! Will you ever show your face in Texas again after what you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie. How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the scientist's name who busted you stealing? How about the museums di you upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours. How many museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them? Mike you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because you are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific community. If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report more of your escapades. Tired of Mike's lies, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one scientists. Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore. Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy it from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc. Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your bullshit emails full of unnamed sources. Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite mailing list. Michael Farmer By the way How is the we
RE:AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations
YOU ARE ALL SONS OF A BIG BITCH!!! UNSUBSCRIBE ME, MOTHER FUCKERS -- Mensaje Original -- Enviado por: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: 05/09/2004 19:16:08 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Título: AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Hmm... I never saw that Michael made accusations against Mauro Daniel. I can remember that he accused a certain Matteo - but this Matteo was banned from the list, if I remember correctly (or he said he would leave forever, don't quite remember), so I really don't understand what Mr. Daniel says here, especially as he always insisted on NOT being Matteo). This is a strange day today. Must be something in the air... Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mauro Daniel Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. September 2004 21:10 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to Mr.Farmer to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations on my accountFarmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how many fake informations write Farmer in this list! From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700 Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place. The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is: Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references- Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted. Kind regards -John Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites Adam Hupe wrote: Mike, You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be able to blame yourself. It is unfortunate that good people will have been taken along the way. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there, saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell us? Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had something to do with that? ANSWER please. What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to them then sold the mass to you. Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better. I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London, American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont trade with me. Answer please. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings Hi Mike, Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember the Monahans meteorite! Will you ever show your face in Texas again after what you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie. How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the scientist's name who busted you stealing? How about the museums di you upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours. How many museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them? Mike you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because you are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific community. If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report more of your escapades. Tired of Mike's lies, Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one scientists. Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore. Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala posts during august with glee. so many people
