[meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites...
Hey Guys, All this talk about meteorites not being able to come out of Canada has me thinking... Argentina is known to come down hard on illegal fossil dealers at Tucson recently. Is there going to be a shortage of Campos this year at Tucson since the new laws came into effect in Argentina? If so, are we going to see a huge spike in their values? I don't know how much Campo material has moved each year for the last decade or so, but it has to be a very large amount. A strong Supply has kept the prices relatively low in the near past, but if all that is all of a sudden cut off, wow... Steve Arnold #1 www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites...
I am thinking that there will be a increase in Campo prices due to the new laws. Another illegal meteorite, Berduc... It is widely available for sale on places like Ebay and a few dealers also offer it online. Not too long ago someone from the Metlist offered it in a rather discrete fashion - if anyone tried to save the video clip like I did, you know what Im talking about - it was also offered at the Bonhams auction. I honestly think that the legal status doesnt matter to most private collectors, it only really effects the dealers who would aquire it to sell it. Myself, as mainly a collector feel that nobody would come kicking in my door for owning a sample of this new canadian fall, Berduc or any other meteorite that is not aloowed to be exported... there are too many bigger issues to deal with. --- On Sat, 12/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites... > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 6:37 PM > Hey Guys, > > All this talk about meteorites not being able to come out > of Canada has me > thinking... > > Argentina is known to come down hard on illegal fossil > dealers at Tucson > recently. > > Is there going to be a shortage of Campos this year at > Tucson since the new > laws came into effect in Argentina? > > If so, are we going to see a huge spike in their values? > > I don't know how much Campo material has moved each > year for the last decade > or so, but it has to be a very large amount. A strong > Supply has kept the > prices relatively low in the near past, but if all that is > all of a sudden cut > off, wow... > > Steve Arnold #1 > www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com > > **Make your life easier with all your friends, > email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites...
In a message dated 12/6/2008 6:11:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I honestly think that the legal status doesnt matter to most private collectors, it only really effects the dealers who would aquire it to sell it. I agree, many private collectors might not care, but I think some do. Of course when it comes to legality, and value, if the laws genuinely slow the flow to market of the quantity of a specimen, one can expect the retail prices will reflect that. Steve Arnold www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites...
Argentina is getting harder in meteorites too. Look at this news from 2 days ago (sorry, spanish only): http://www.unoentrerios.com.ar/noticias/nota.php?id=1841 Two Uruguayans were caugth trying to smuggler meteorites from Argentina to Uruguay. They look like Campos. I heard there is an investigation right now the selling of illegal meteorites on-line (Campo del Cielo, Berduc and Santa Lucia), including web pages and auctions. Justice here is slow, very slow, it may take years, but their files don't dissapear. Don't be surprised if we have investigators next Tucson looking for the ones being sold there. By the way, here is an article (also in spanish), made by a lawyer, about the law. page 1 http://www.astroentrerios.com.ar/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=160&Itemid=70 page 2 http://www.astroentrerios.com.ar/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=160&Itemid=70&limit=1&limitstart=1 page 3 http://www.astroentrerios.com.ar/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=160&Itemid=70&limit=1&limitstart=2 Eduardo -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:10:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites... > I am thinking that there will be a increase in Campo prices due to the > new laws. > > Another illegal meteorite, Berduc... It is widely available for sale on > places like Ebay and a few dealers also offer it online. > Not too long ago someone from the Metlist offered it in a rather > discrete fashion - if anyone tried to save the video clip like I did, > you know what Im talking about - it was also offered at the Bonhams > auction. > > I honestly think that the legal status doesnt matter to most private > collectors, it only really effects the dealers who would aquire it to > sell it. > Myself, as mainly a collector feel that nobody would come kicking in my > door for owning a sample of this new canadian fall, Berduc or any other > meteorite that is not aloowed to be exported... there are too many > bigger issues to deal with. > > > > --- On Sat, 12/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites... > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 6:37 PM > > Hey Guys, > > > > All this talk about meteorites not being able to come out > > of Canada has me > > thinking... > > > > Argentina is known to come down hard on illegal fossil > > dealers at Tucson > > recently. > > > > Is there going to be a shortage of Campos this year at > > Tucson since the new > > laws came into effect in Argentina? > > > > If so, are we going to see a huge spike in their values? > > > > I don't know how much Campo material has moved each > > year for the last decade > > or so, but it has to be a very large amount. A strong > > Supply has kept the > > prices relatively low in the near past, but if all that is > > all of a sudden cut > > off, wow... > > > > Steve Arnold #1 > > www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com > > > > **Make your life easier with all your friends, > > email, and > > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > > > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom > 0010) > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
