[meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
Very interesting... Could it be? http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/suffolk-man-says-he-saw-meteor-hit -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
Not a chance. If he'd seen this a few minutes after the sky lit up, I might buy it. I expect he saw the fireball drop below the horizon, a couple hundred miles away. This report is extremely typical of that. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Meteorites USA" To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit Very interesting... Could it be? http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/suffolk-man-says-he-saw-meteor-hit -- Regards, Eric Wichman __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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so, Chris, is it "not a chance" or "he saw the fireball drop below the horizon" ?? Kind of confusing... Michael B, France - Original Message - From: "Chris Peterson" To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit Not a chance. If he'd seen this a few minutes after the sky lit up, I might buy it. I expect he saw the fireball drop below the horizon, a couple hundred miles away. This report is extremely typical of that. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Meteorites USA" To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit Very interesting... Could it be? http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/suffolk-man-says-he-saw-meteor-hit -- Regards, Eric Wichman __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
>>Not a chance. If he'd seen this a few minutes after the sky lit up, I might buy it. I expect he saw the fireball drop below the horizon, a couple hundred miles away. This report is extremely typical of that.<< I agree...also this guy claims to have seen the meteor splash in the water near a bridge and him. So it was going fast enuf to cause it to appear incandescent upon impact, but he reports not hearing any sonic booms, only a whistling noiseamazing. The point of retardation should be in the neighborhood of 9,000 mph, so this sucker was traveling pretty fast based upon this witness's account. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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>>so, Chris, is it "not a chance" or "he saw the fireball drop below the horizon" ?? Kind of confusing...<< I think this guy only had 3 chances of being able to see a meteor hit close by in the water, at a speed it should be traveling to keep incandescence present and without any sonic booms...Fat, None and no Chance. :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well, "not a chance" isn't very scientific. I should have said "a really, really, really small chance". And the chance I'm referring to is that he witnessed an impact. From the description, it sounds like he saw some flaming meteor splash into the water nearby, which just didn't happen. I'd say he saw the meteor disappear below his local horizon, which would have happened when the meteor was still many miles high, and therefore very far from him- more than a hundred miles, maybe a lot more. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Bross" To: "Chris Peterson" ; Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit so, Chris, is it "not a chance" or "he saw the fireball drop below the horizon" ?? Kind of confusing... Michael B, France __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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There are a few things left out of the report. Duration of the event, distance from his location, angle of decent, speed and azimuth. If the guy witnessed the entire event from beginning to end and the fireball was very far away at first sighting, that explains why he may not have heard the boom. It could be that it reached the retardation point long before coming close to him. The whistling noise reported is also intriguing. The report does NOT state that the ball of fire hit the water. Only that he witnessed a ball of fire. EXCERPT: "The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk. It looked just like a miniature comet, pretty much," he said. "It was really, really white with blue flames. It was pretty wild." Butler said he didn't hear the boom, only a whistling roar as the object flew past. The wind-blown water was really choppy, he added, but he could see the splash when it landed.." He did give a clue as to the direction of travel although it is extremely vague as he doesn't say which direction he was looking but rather the direction he was traveling (SOUTH). He stated the object was "..coming right at my car.." He could have been looking East or West or in his rear-view mirror for that matter. The point is it's a eye-witness report, and it's interesting enough to investigate further. Even if it does turn out to be nothing. Eric Chris Peterson wrote: Well, "not a chance" isn't very scientific. I should have said "a really, really, really small chance". And the chance I'm referring to is that he witnessed an impact. From the description, it sounds like he saw some flaming meteor splash into the water nearby, which just didn't happen. I'd say he saw the meteor disappear below his local horizon, which would have happened when the meteor was still many miles high, and therefore very far from him- more than a hundred miles, maybe a lot more. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Bross" To: "Chris Peterson" ; Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit so, Chris, is it "not a chance" or "he saw the fireball drop below the horizon" ?? Kind of confusing... Michael B, France __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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generally dislike ruling out ANY chance---except where physics dictates otherwise. fully agree with the following three chances indicated below. On Apr 4, 2009, at 2:50 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote: so, Chris, is it "not a chance" or "he saw the fireball drop below the horizon" ?? Kind of confusing...<< I think this guy only had 3 chances of being able to see a meteor hit close by in the water, at a speed it should be traveling to keep incandescence present and without any sonic booms...Fat, None and no Chance. :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
>>There are a few things left out of the report. Duration of the event, distance from his location, angle of decent, speed and azimuth. If the guy witnessed the entire event from beginning to end and the fireball was very far away at first sighting, that explains why he may not have heard the boom. It could be that it reached the retardation point long before coming close to him. The whistling noise reported is also intriguing. The report does NOT state that the ball of fire hit the water. Only that he witnessed a ball of fire. EXCERPT: "The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk. It looked just like a miniature comet, pretty much," he said. "It was really, really white with blue flames. It was pretty wild."<< Well...if it reached the point of retardation while he was observing it. and unless this thing was way huge, I kinda doubt he would be able to keep sight of it during several minutes of "dark flight" and driving at the same time. >From the write up, he does mention that it appeared "really, really white with blue flames." and also said it looked like "a miniature comet." With these statements, I get the impression he claims to have watched it hit the water while its still glowing. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I agree Darryl, but only if you assume that he saw the fireball hit the water. Which the report does not say. In fact the report states "...he didn't hear the boom, only a whistling roar as the object flew past..." which tells me the object was NOT traveling at super sonic speeds or high enough speed to be incandescent. It does NOT say a fireball hit the water. Eric Pitt wrote: generally dislike ruling out ANY chance---except where physics dictates otherwise. fully agree with the following three chances indicated below. On Apr 4, 2009, at 2:50 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote: so, Chris, is it "not a chance" or "he saw the fireball drop below the horizon" ?? Kind of confusing...<< I think this guy only had 3 chances of being able to see a meteor hit close by in the water, at a speed it should be traveling to keep incandescence present and without any sonic booms...Fat, None and no Chance. :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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P.S. His comment "..."The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk.." is also a clue to the speed it was traveling. Could he see the shape clearly enough if it were moving at super sonic speed? In addition he reported he did NOT hear a sonic boom. Or I could be spending too much time on this and have nothing better to do right now. Taking a day off is good... ;) Eric Meteorites USA wrote: There are a few things left out of the report. Duration of the event, distance from his location, angle of decent, speed and azimuth. If the guy witnessed the entire event from beginning to end and the fireball was very far away at first sighting, that explains why he may not have heard the boom. It could be that it reached the retardation point long before coming close to him. The whistling noise reported is also intriguing. The report does NOT state that the ball of fire hit the water. Only that he witnessed a ball of fire. EXCERPT: "The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk. It looked just like a miniature comet, pretty much," he said. "It was really, really white with blue flames. It was pretty wild." Butler said he didn't hear the boom, only a whistling roar as the object flew past. The wind-blown water was really choppy, he added, but he could see the splash when it landed.." He did give a clue as to the direction of travel although it is extremely vague as he doesn't say which direction he was looking but rather the direction he was traveling (SOUTH). He stated the object was "..coming right at my car.." He could have been looking East or West or in his rear-view mirror for that matter. The point is it's a eye-witness report, and it's interesting enough to investigate further. Even if it does turn out to be nothing. Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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If the thing was hotwhere was the steam? Pete - Original Message - From: "Meteorites USA" To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit P.S. His comment "..."The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk.." is also a clue to the speed it was traveling. Could he see the shape clearly enough if it were moving at super sonic speed? In addition he reported he did NOT hear a sonic boom. Or I could be spending too much time on this and have nothing better to do right now. Taking a day off is good... ;) Eric Meteorites USA wrote: There are a few things left out of the report. Duration of the event, distance from his location, angle of decent, speed and azimuth. If the guy witnessed the entire event from beginning to end and the fireball was very far away at first sighting, that explains why he may not have heard the boom. It could be that it reached the retardation point long before coming close to him. The whistling noise reported is also intriguing. The report does NOT state that the ball of fire hit the water. Only that he witnessed a ball of fire. EXCERPT: "The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk. It looked just like a miniature comet, pretty much," he said. "It was really, really white with blue flames. It was pretty wild." Butler said he didn't hear the boom, only a whistling roar as the object flew past. The wind-blown water was really choppy, he added, but he could see the splash when it landed.." He did give a clue as to the direction of travel although it is extremely vague as he doesn't say which direction he was looking but rather the direction he was traveling (SOUTH). He stated the object was "..coming right at my car.." He could have been looking East or West or in his rear-view mirror for that matter. The point is it's a eye-witness report, and it's interesting enough to investigate further. Even if it does turn out to be nothing. Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
Okay...below is most of the article about what this guy saw. First of all, the time of sighting was at 9:45 pm Sunday NIGHT. If it wasn't glowing and was in the process of "dark flight" when it hit the water, he's got one heck of a good eyesight. It would have to be traveling at least a couple hundred miles per hour when it went over his car. At that velocity or more and at night, I doubt I could have picked up on a large object whistling by overhead. I know I wouldn't have been able to see it...particularly while driving a car. Then a meteorite that has yet to land, has a few minutes of dark flight to experience. I'm kinda curious as to how this guy would make the connection of seeing a bright meteor, followed by a few minutes of darkness(which it would have to have during dark flight), to the whistling noise overhead that landed in the water...unless he was claiming it to be incandescent. :O) He also says that he was driving over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge "when night turned briefly into day. " "There it was, coming right at my car. It was so fast that I didn't even have time to think that I might have been in danger. It shot right over my car, it went down in the water right between the two bridges." Well...I'm convinced he's alluding that it was incandescent all the way to the water. So for it to be incandescent to the water, the meteorite would have to be about ten tons plus traveling over 9,000 mph. That must have been one heck of a splash. :O) George Zay Most of the article below: "But only one person has said he saw where it landed. Joe Butler of Suffolk says he was driving south across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel when night turned briefly into day. "The sky was light all of a sudden, like it was daytime," Butler recalled on Friday. "There it was, coming right at my car. It was so fast that I didn't even have time to think that I might have been in danger. "It shot right over my car, it went down in the water right between the two bridges." Butler said he was near the tallest part of the bridge, near Fisherman Island, where the northbound and southbound lanes separate widely. The meteor, he said, splashed into the water between them. "I was like, what in the world is going on?" Butler said. "My daughter, she said, 'Wow, what was that, Daddy?' and I said, 'I don't know, babe, I think that was a falling star.' " The meteor flashed past Hampton Roads around 9:45 p.m. Sunday, briefly lighting up the landscape. It was followed one to two minutes later by a sonic boom, which experts said meant it had penetrated deep enough into the atmosphere to leave meteorites.<< **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
>>His comment "..."The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk.." is also a clue to the speed it was traveling. Could he see the shape clearly enough if it were moving at super sonic speed?<< Could he see a non glowing object at all, at almost ten at night while driving a car? :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Not adding an opinion but just about observation consistency. Four points and a question: 1. Once again we are dealing with a reporter--which is a class of individuals that consistently scramble eye-witness interviews. 2. His location was very close to the Doppler echo end track. 3. Owing to how a sonic boom propagates to the side and rear of the hypersonic missile, if you are near dead front of objects path you tend to only get echoes from gound reflections unlsee the object is still super sonic when passing your location --ask any one that has been shot at by a super sonic round. One may hear the bullet thump but don't hear the the sonic signature that nearby folks usually do. Thus the old adage about not hearing the shot that hits you. 4. Whistling, roaring, buzzing, or wap-wap sounds--( unlike those of a sonic boom, bolide, or explosion,) are often reported by observers near where a meteorite drops. How fortunate the tidewaters are warming up and we have some scuba divers on the list. Q: Now this was a retrograde meteor correct? Retrograde is contra earth's rotation and prograde is with the direction of rotation? Simple I know but I am in an argument with myself and need a referee. Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Sounds like an unidentified flying objectan "object" that was "flying" and "unidentifiable??" Kirk.:-) - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit His comment "..."The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk.." is also a clue to the speed it was traveling. Could he see the shape clearly enough if it were moving at super sonic speed?<< Could he see a non glowing object at all, at almost ten at night while driving a car? :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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>>Sounds like an unidentified flying objectan "object" that was "flying" and "unidentifiable??" Kirk.:-)<< Yeah I know...and the truth is out there somewhere. :O) For whatever reason, people often like to tell a story, that is better than the truth. Mostly based on pre-conceived ideas and to what they think things should be. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Good point Geoyou are correct! Kirk.. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit Sounds like an unidentified flying objectan "object" that was "flying" and "unidentifiable??" Kirk.:-)<< Yeah I know...and the truth is out there somewhere. :O) For whatever reason, people often like to tell a story, that is better than the truth. Mostly based on pre-conceived ideas and to what they think things should be. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit
I think many people's pre-conceived idea of what a meteor or meteorite should be is based upon a Hollywood movie (e.g, Armageddon) of exploding meteorites raining havoc on the populace, which is why I don't want Hollywood to ever change it's version. It makes it easy to tell the could-be-true stories from the ones which don't even have a chance. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit Sounds like an unidentified flying objectan "object" that was "flying" and "unidentifiable??" Kirk.:-)<< Yeah I know...and the truth is out there somewhere. :O) For whatever reason, people often like to tell a story, that is better than the truth. Mostly based on pre-conceived ideas and to what they think things should be. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suffolk man says he saw meteor hit UPDATE
Hi all, Here's a comment on the PilotOnline.com website report: http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/suffolk-man-says-he-saw-meteor-hit UPDATE: Comment Submitted by funtogo on Sat, 04/04/2009 at 5:19 pm. -- After Joe told me Wednesday night about the sighting, I called the Virginian Pilot to give them his name. The Pilot called him. He was not so interested in reporting it. He had not read the paper and did not know about the hub-bub until Tuesday. He did immediately call a friend to tell them what he had seen, but then let it go. He just thought he had seen a shooting star. A once in a time event, but not knowing that so many others had seen it, he just accepted it as an unusual event. He said he looked around and there were no other cars within sight so I doubt anyone else saw it. He was returning Sunday night with my granddaughter Alana from visiting family in Maryland. He has the toll receipt showing that he paid the toll at 9:29 pm. That would put him on the bridge about 9:35 assuming the clocks at the toll booth are accurate. Could be off a few minutes. Based on reports from those at the ocean front saying they saw it in the northwest sky, this would be consistant with where it landed. This spot is about half way from Maryland and North Carolina where people live that reported the sighting. I accept his report as accurate and agree that someone should look for it. The water... -- What if? If the times are correct on the receipts, they correspond to the data time and location. Eric P.S. Don't forget he did NOT hear the sonic boom, and instead heard the loud whistling noise. Meteorites USA wrote: P.S. His comment "..."The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk.." is also a clue to the speed it was traveling. Could he see the shape clearly enough if it were moving at super sonic speed? In addition he reported he did NOT hear a sonic boom. Or I could be spending too much time on this and have nothing better to do right now. Taking a day off is good... ;) Eric Meteorites USA wrote: There are a few things left out of the report. Duration of the event, distance from his location, angle of decent, speed and azimuth. If the guy witnessed the entire event from beginning to end and the fireball was very far away at first sighting, that explains why he may not have heard the boom. It could be that it reached the retardation point long before coming close to him. The whistling noise reported is also intriguing. The report does NOT state that the ball of fire hit the water. Only that he witnessed a ball of fire. EXCERPT: "The shape of it, it was just too perfect to be a piece of junk. It looked just like a miniature comet, pretty much," he said. "It was really, really white with blue flames. It was pretty wild." Butler said he didn't hear the boom, only a whistling roar as the object flew past. The wind-blown water was really choppy, he added, but he could see the splash when it landed.." He did give a clue as to the direction of travel although it is extremely vague as he doesn't say which direction he was looking but rather the direction he was traveling (SOUTH). He stated the object was "..coming right at my car.." He could have been looking East or West or in his rear-view mirror for that matter. The point is it's a eye-witness report, and it's interesting enough to investigate further. Even if it does turn out to be nothing. Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list