[meteorite-list] TKW help
Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem Kem and Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info anywhere. David H. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help
Hi David and List, Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem Kem and Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info anywhere. If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14 gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113 kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem??
I was given to understand that Kem Kem was one of those placeholder provisional names given to a meteorite that had not been classified. Since there were a number of gray areas regarding TKW, find location, and if all the pieces submitted as Kem Kem actually were from the same strewnfield, it had never received an official number or classification. I bought a partslice when it was new, unclassified, and all over the market, and would be tickled pink but surprised if it were a eucrite (mine looks like a generic L6). Tracy Latimer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help Hi David and List, Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem Kem and Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info anywhere. If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14 gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113 kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem??
In 2000 (Might be 1999 or 2001, I cant remember exactly) this was in BNWA (Before NWA) ex meteorite dealer Michael Casper bought 300 kilos of meteorites (300 kilos was a massive amount of meteorites at a time when even weathered unclassified meteorites were getting $3 a gram on ebay) that he was told was found in the Kem Kem plain near the algerian border. I bought some from this 300 kilo bunch (As did a lot of other dealers and meteorites named Kem Kem was showing up on ebay). After seeing it in person I realized that this was a very large number of strewnfields all mixed together that Casper was selling. At around the same time the meteoritical society was trying to decide how to retain as much information as possible on all the meteorites that were just being sold with no particular pattern in morocco. Jeff Grossman in particular went on a fact finding mission asking dealers selling NWAs (They werent called NWAs back then) what was happening and the best way to accumulate as much info as possible on all of these mixed meteorites (I remember him asking me if the moroccans were cutting them up before selling them). It soon became obvious that TKW and GPS coordinates would not be known and it was decided by the met society that the best way to deal with the less than ideal (but nevertheless present) situation was to create the NWA system that we all now all know and love. I dont know of anything other than this 300 kilos was ever sold as Kem Kem. However, there are a lot of NWA's that originally were a part of Caspers 300 kilos of Kem Kem. Bernd mentions a 14 gram eucrite and my very own historical meteorite NWA001 originally came from this 300 kilos of Kem Kem. There are lots more for sure as this Kem Kem was a very mixed group of meteorites and at that time we all were under the misguided notion that all meteorites from NWA would eventually be classified (Wither they actually all came from the Kem Kem plain or not is another matter and will probably never be known). Thats my Kem Kem memories anyway Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on ebay --- tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was given to understand that Kem Kem was one of those placeholder provisional names given to a meteorite that had not been classified. Since there were a number of gray areas regarding TKW, find location, and if all the pieces submitted as Kem Kem actually were from the same strewnfield, it had never received an official number or classification. I bought a partslice when it was new, unclassified, and all over the market, and would be tickled pink but surprised if it were a eucrite (mine looks like a generic L6). Tracy Latimer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help Hi David and List, Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem Kem and Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info anywhere. If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14 gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113 kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help
Hola Dave, All, If you're making accurate labels, you might add 36kg to the tkw of Tata (listed at 113 kg) - and make that two pieces found, as opposed to one. Kem Kem...I have no idea. Regards, Jason On 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David and List, Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem Kem and Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info anywhere. If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14 gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113 kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem??
G'day Dean, Yeah that rings a bell. I remember Kem Kem stuff all over ebay back in 2001. I think the whole NWA numbering system was just being done sometime around then too. I think most of the Kem Kem material was just another name for Unclassified NWA. ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: dean bessey To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem?? In 2000 (Might be 1999 or 2001, I cant remember exactly) this was in BNWA (Before NWA) ex meteorite dealer Michael Casper bought 300 kilos of meteorites (300 kilos was a massive amount of meteorites at a time when even weathered unclassified meteorites were getting $3 a gram on ebay) that he was told was found in the Kem Kem plain near the algerian border. I bought some from this 300 kilo bunch (As did a lot of other dealers and meteorites named Kem Kem was showing up on ebay). After seeing it in person I realized that this was a very large number of strewnfields all mixed together that Casper was selling. At around the same time the meteoritical society was trying to decide how to retain as much information as possible on all the meteorites that were just being sold with no particular pattern in morocco. Jeff Grossman in particular went on a fact finding mission asking dealers selling NWAs (They werent called NWAs back then) what was happening and the best way to accumulate as much info as possible on all of these mixed meteorites (I remember him asking me if the moroccans were cutting them up before selling them). It soon became obvious that TKW and GPS coordinates would not be known and it was decided by the met society that the best way to deal with the less than ideal (but nevertheless present) situation was to create the NWA system that we all now all know and love. I dont know of anything other than this 300 kilos was ever sold as Kem Kem. However, there are a lot of NWA's that originally were a part of Caspers 300 kilos of Kem Kem. Bernd mentions a 14 gram eucrite and my very own historical meteorite NWA001 originally came from this 300 kilos of Kem Kem. There are lots more for sure as this Kem Kem was a very mixed group of meteorites and at that time we all were under the misguided notion that all meteorites from NWA would eventually be classified (Wither they actually all came from the Kem Kem plain or not is another matter and will probably never be known). Thats my Kem Kem memories anyway Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on ebay --- tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was given to understand that Kem Kem was one of those placeholder provisional names given to a meteorite that had not been classified. Since there were a number of gray areas regarding TKW, find location, and if all the pieces submitted as Kem Kem actually were from the same strewnfield, it had never received an official number or classification. I bought a partslice when it was new, unclassified, and all over the market, and would be tickled pink but surprised if it were a eucrite (mine looks like a generic L6). Tracy Latimer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help Hi David and List, Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem Kem and Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info anywhere. If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14 gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113 kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
