Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!

2002-01-22 Thread Dave Mouat

Hi Mike
Ever since this "discussion" started, I could picture the minds of cartoonists
(like Dorothy Norton) working overtime with the added motivation of thousands of
hobbyists standing (of course with $$ in hand) on either side of the dog
wondering and wagering  if it's (was?) dead or not.
Dave

Michael Farmer wrote:

> This is the stupidist damned argument I have seen in a very long time.
> Why fought over something that occured long before any of us were even born!
> WE WILL NEVER know one way or the other, Kevin, you make a great case, but
> in the end, it is your opinion, based on good facts, but it proves
> absolutely nothing. The stupid dog story is almost a century old, and will
> be around after we are dead. Leave it alone, people like it and you cant
> prove or disprove it. I am sick of this useless endless circle of Nakhla dog
> #$%.
> Mike Farmer
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:49 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!
>
> > Dear Cmcdon0923:
> >
> > You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a
> > serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?...
> >
> > Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist,
> none
> > of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh
> if
> > you like.
> >
> > You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees?
> >
> > Yes.  I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and
> > zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and
> they
> > throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential
> USA
> > Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our
> > government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site
> > knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot
> I
> > know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object.
> >
> > You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story,
> > then handle it that way- personally."
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it
> > didn't."
> >
> > Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail.
> >
> > You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean
> it
> > did."
> >
> > Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that
> forces a
> > person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?"  Ron's "law" would have you
> wait
> > in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time)
> > while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the
> > USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite,
> er,
> > man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady.
> >
> > I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion.
> In
> > the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed
> > it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it
> were
> > ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces
> > "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their
> sentences
> > with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.)
> >
> > By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found
> > that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in
> > 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading
> > NWA's.  I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the
> > truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more
> asteroid
> > would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such
> honor
> > for myself (hold your applause).
> >
> > And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax
> > tomorrow.
> >
> > But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this
> IS
> > the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's
> > all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen.
> >
> > BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla"
> dog
> > (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your
> > sentiments.
> >
> > Kevin Kichinka
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Casper

Isn't it time for your medication?

  xoxo, MC


- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!


> This is the stupidist damned argument I have seen in a very long time.
> Why fought over something that occured long before any of us were even
born!
> WE WILL NEVER know one way or the other, Kevin, you make a great case, but
> in the end, it is your opinion, based on good facts, but it proves
> absolutely nothing. The stupid dog story is almost a century old, and will
> be around after we are dead. Leave it alone, people like it and you cant
> prove or disprove it. I am sick of this useless endless circle of Nakhla
dog
> #$%.
> Mike Farmer
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:49 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!
>
>
> > Dear Cmcdon0923:
> >
> > You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this
a
> > serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?...
> >
> > Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist,
> none
> > of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh
> if
> > you like.
> >
> > You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees?
> >
> > Yes.  I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and
> > zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and
> they
> > throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an
influential
> USA
> > Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that
our
> > government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This
site
> > knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded
patriot
> I
> > know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object.
> >
> > You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla
story,
> > then handle it that way- personally."
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it
> > didn't."
> >
> > Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail.
> >
> > You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't
mean
> it
> > did."
> >
> > Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that
> forces a
> > person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?"  Ron's "law" would have you
> wait
> > in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g
time)
> > while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in
the
> > USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free
meteorite,
> er,
> > man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady.
> >
> > I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this
discussion.
> In
> > the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and
killed
> > it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it
> were
> > ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces
> > "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their
> sentences
> > with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.)
> >
> > By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily
found
> > that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in
> > 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy
trading
> > NWA's.  I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state
the
> > truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more
> asteroid
> > would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such
> honor
> > for myself (hold your applause).
> >
> > And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive
anthrax
> > tomorrow.
> >
> > But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than
this
> IS
> > the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now
let's
> > all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen.
> >
> > BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite
"Nakhla"
> dog
> > (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your
> > sentiments.
> >
> > Kevin Kichinka
> >
> > __
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Farmer

This is the stupidist damned argument I have seen in a very long time.
Why fought over something that occured long before any of us were even born!
WE WILL NEVER know one way or the other, Kevin, you make a great case, but
in the end, it is your opinion, based on good facts, but it proves
absolutely nothing. The stupid dog story is almost a century old, and will
be around after we are dead. Leave it alone, people like it and you cant
prove or disprove it. I am sick of this useless endless circle of Nakhla dog
#$%.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:49 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!


> Dear Cmcdon0923:
>
> You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a
> serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?...
>
> Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist,
none
> of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh
if
> you like.
>
> You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees?
>
> Yes.  I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and
> zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and
they
> throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential
USA
> Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our
> government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site
> knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot
I
> know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object.
>
> You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story,
> then handle it that way- personally."
>
> Yes.
>
> You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it
> didn't."
>
> Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail.
>
> You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean
it
> did."
>
> Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that
forces a
> person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?"  Ron's "law" would have you
wait
> in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time)
> while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the
> USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite,
er,
> man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady.
>
> I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion.
In
> the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed
> it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it
were
> ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces
> "popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their
sentences
> with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.)
>
> By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found
> that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in
> 1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading
> NWA's.  I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the
> truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more
asteroid
> would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such
honor
> for myself (hold your applause).
>
> And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax
> tomorrow.
>
> But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this
IS
> the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's
> all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen.
>
> BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla"
dog
> (sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your
> sentiments.
>
> Kevin Kichinka
>
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[meteorite-list] Thank you,Cmcdon0923!

2002-01-21 Thread MARSROX

Dear Cmcdon0923:

You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a 
serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?...

Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist, none 
of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh if 
you like.

You wrote -- "do you have an issue surrounding government employees?

Yes.  I deal with Lee County, Florida officials all day on land use and 
zoning issues. They're lazy, arbitrary and stupid. I tell them this and they 
throw "spitballs" at me. But to the point, Ron administers an influential USA 
Gov. website that we USA citizens pay for. It is traditional here that our 
government information sites not stray "too-far" from the truth. This site 
knowingly distributes information that is false. As a civic-minded patriot I 
know that this is wrong. It is my duty to object.

You wrote -- "If you have a personal beef with Ron over the Nakhla story, 
then handle it that way- personally."

Yes. 

You wrote -- "Just because Ron can't prove it happened, doesn't mean it 
didn't."

Really? Then everyone accused of a crime goes to jail.

You wrote -- "Just because you can't prove it didn't happen, doesn't mean it 
did."

Really? Illogical double negatives. What democracy are you from that forces a 
person "to prove he didn't commit a crime?"  Ron's "law" would have you wait 
in jail until the Valera cow comes home (trust me, that's a l-o-n-g time) 
while he looks for the proof he "knows" exists. Luckily Cmcdon0923, in the 
USA, if there's no proof, it didn't happen and you walk a free meteorite, er, 
man. Have a beer on me. And take a cigar out of the box for the lady.

I want to thank CMcdon0923 for so wonderfully distilling this discussion. In 
the primeval past, a "story" claimed that a meteorite hit a dog and killed 
it. So sensational it was, that officials on the scene that refuted it were 
ignored by the popular forces of ignorance. (What makes these forces 
"popular" anyway? Who wants to hang around people that start their sentences 
with -- "Duh." Thank God I'm on this list with you good people.)

By effort (a pen, an envelope and a stamp) and serendipity, I easily found 
that NO evidence exists that a dog was struck by a meteorite in Egypt in 
1911. Any of you would have found the same if you weren't so busy trading 
NWA's.  I'm sure if Ron had "discovered" this he would correctly state the 
truth on the website he works for us citizens and at least one more asteroid 
would be named after him -- "Ron"-- but I don't expect or want any such honor 
for myself (hold your applause).

And after all, NONE OF THIS IS important if we all get radioactive anthrax 
tomorrow. 

But IF WE MANAGE TO EXCAPE certain excruciating death tomorrow, than this IS 
the seminal meteorite "story." Boys and girls, it didn't happen. Now let's 
all grow up and be good little scientists and admit it didn't happen.

BTW - Thank you each and every one for emailing me your favorite "Nakhla" dog 
(sic) photo attachments with their heads blown off, I'm touched by your 
sentiments. 

Kevin Kichinka

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