Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008
Happily Blaine Reeds at the Ramada which is just off St Mary's Rd. NO DETOUR necessary. Bill Mason "Rusty" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael L Blood Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:36 PM To: Bob Evans; Christian Anger; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 Regarding Inn Suites, I could not agree more. I know when his old motel shut down Blaine passed on Inn Suites based on the rationale that he was offered A "back room" at Inn Suites and wouldn't get the "foot traffic" many rooms would get. So, now he is in a VERY difficult location - AND in A Back room! Of course every meteorite buyer in the show would Come to his room at Inn Suites no mater where it was - ET, Steeve Arnold and others are in the back, Anne Black & Geoff Notkin are Upstairs - no one misses the opportunity to see them - and it is far, far Easier than driving around Tucson, even if there weren't never ending Construction going on. If every buyer were to email every dealer NOT in Inn Suites and Tell them they "hope" they can get to them, but traffic, while always a problem, is going to be especially bad this year and it is a crying shame they are not at Inn Suites, where they would be certain to see them, it MIGHT convince them to let go of whatever attitude is keeping them Away and join the party in 2009. Marty Zinn, the Show Organizer tried as hard as he could to get all the meteorite dealers to Inn Suites, but a number of them held out. Still, it is the "Mecca" for meteorite goers to the Tucson Show. I Gear the directions to my auction FROM Inn Suites, because every Meteorite person knows where that is - and is usually going to be Coming from there. Please let there be no doubt, I am NOT recommending anyone Boycott dealers located elsewhere - that would be, in my opinion, very much non-constructive. If EVERYONE just let them know how difficult They are making it for loyal customers to see them and that it is a Certainty there are MANY potential customers they are missing out on Because they are not at Inn Suites, my guess is at least some of them Would come to their senses and arrange for future years to be at Inn Suites. It would serve them and customers alike. Best wishes, Michael on 1/27/08 12:23 PM, Bob Evans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh Great, > I thought it was a pain in the butt last year getting around, now the exits > are closed. > Theres another reason how sweet it would be if all meteorite dealers were at > the Innsuites. > - Original Message - > From: "Christian Anger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:26 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 > > >> Hi friends, >> >> in agency of the Austrians in Tucson (unfortunately I can't make it to the >> show this year) >> >> I have following information for you. >> >> Erich Haiderer Room 117+patio, Riverpark Inn (formerly Pueblo Inn) Room >> 117 ph (520) 6226611 ext 117 >> >> You might be informed already, but just wanted to let you know about >> tremendous >> detour challenges: As there >> is only 1 single rather hidden exit off the I-10 for a long distance it >> might >> appear likely that somebody gets lost far away of the intended goal: >> "The access to all major center show locations is a huge challenge unless >> you >> know the precise exit ramp. There is only (max.) 1 each going eastbound: >> Prince >> Road (and not! Grant road as previously indicated) and westbound: 29th >> Street. >> Take extreme care to watch out carefully for this precise exits and the >> instructions below. >> Get off I-10 at the Prince Road Exit #254 >> . Continue straight ahead on the southbound Frontage Road for >> approximately 5.0 >> miles >> . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress >> Street >> If you miss the Prince Road Exit #254, you must. >> . Continue on I-10 East for 5 miles to the next exit (6th Avenue) >> . Get off I-10 at the 6th Avenue Exit #261 >> . Turn left onto 6th Avenue and cross over the Freeway >> . Turn left onto the westbound I-10 entrance ramp & stay in left hand lane >> . Take Exit #259 (29th Street) and travel straight on the northbound >> Frontage >> Road >> approximately 3.0 miles to Congress Street >> . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway >> . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage >> Road >> . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. >> >> Directions from the Ea
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008
Hello Everyone, We are still working on our annual Tucson Information Page and waiting for information from many meteorite dealers. We will be updating the page as we get the information. Geoff is hard at work and we'll add the Birthday Bash information when it's available. 2008 Tucson Information Page on Meteorite-Times http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/ Please add your information here http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/Tucson_form.htm Thank you, Paul and Jim http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/ Michael L Blood wrote: Regarding Inn Suites, I could not agree more. I know when his old motel shut down Blaine passed on Inn Suites based on the rationale that he was offered A "back room" at Inn Suites and wouldn't get the "foot traffic" many rooms would get. So, now he is in a VERY difficult location - AND in A Back room! Of course every meteorite buyer in the show would Come to his room at Inn Suites no mater where it was - ET, Steeve Arnold and others are in the back, Anne Black & Geoff Notkin are Upstairs - no one misses the opportunity to see them - and it is far, far Easier than driving around Tucson, even if there weren't never ending Construction going on. If every buyer were to email every dealer NOT in Inn Suites and Tell them they "hope" they can get to them, but traffic, while always a problem, is going to be especially bad this year and it is a crying shame they are not at Inn Suites, where they would be certain to see them, it MIGHT convince them to let go of whatever attitude is keeping them Away and join the party in 2009. Marty Zinn, the Show Organizer tried as hard as he could to get all the meteorite dealers to Inn Suites, but a number of them held out. Still, it is the "Mecca" for meteorite goers to the Tucson Show. I Gear the directions to my auction FROM Inn Suites, because every Meteorite person knows where that is - and is usually going to be Coming from there. Please let there be no doubt, I am NOT recommending anyone Boycott dealers located elsewhere - that would be, in my opinion, very much non-constructive. If EVERYONE just let them know how difficult They are making it for loyal customers to see them and that it is a Certainty there are MANY potential customers they are missing out on Because they are not at Inn Suites, my guess is at least some of them Would come to their senses and arrange for future years to be at Inn Suites. It would serve them and customers alike. Best wishes, Michael on 1/27/08 12:23 PM, Bob Evans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Great, I thought it was a pain in the butt last year getting around, now the exits are closed. Theres another reason how sweet it would be if all meteorite dealers were at the Innsuites. - Original Message - From: "Christian Anger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 Hi friends, in agency of the Austrians in Tucson (unfortunately I can't make it to the show this year) I have following information for you. Erich Haiderer Room 117+patio, Riverpark Inn (formerly Pueblo Inn) Room 117 ph (520) 6226611 ext 117 You might be informed already, but just wanted to let you know about tremendous detour challenges: As there is only 1 single rather hidden exit off the I-10 for a long distance it might appear likely that somebody gets lost far away of the intended goal: "The access to all major center show locations is a huge challenge unless you know the precise exit ramp. There is only (max.) 1 each going eastbound: Prince Road (and not! Grant road as previously indicated) and westbound: 29th Street. Take extreme care to watch out carefully for this precise exits and the instructions below. Get off I-10 at the Prince Road Exit #254 . Continue straight ahead on the southbound Frontage Road for approximately 5.0 miles . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress Street If you miss the Prince Road Exit #254, you must. . Continue on I-10 East for 5 miles to the next exit (6th Avenue) . Get off I-10 at the 6th Avenue Exit #261 . Turn left onto 6th Avenue and cross over the Freeway . Turn left onto the westbound I-10 entrance ramp & stay in left hand lane . Take Exit #259 (29th Street) and travel straight on the northbound Frontage Road approximately 3.0 miles to Congress Street . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. Directions from the East (New Mexico & El Paso): . Get off I-10 at the 29th Street Exit #259 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbou
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008
Regarding Inn Suites, I could not agree more. I know when his old motel shut down Blaine passed on Inn Suites based on the rationale that he was offered A "back room" at Inn Suites and wouldn't get the "foot traffic" many rooms would get. So, now he is in a VERY difficult location - AND in A Back room! Of course every meteorite buyer in the show would Come to his room at Inn Suites no mater where it was - ET, Steeve Arnold and others are in the back, Anne Black & Geoff Notkin are Upstairs - no one misses the opportunity to see them - and it is far, far Easier than driving around Tucson, even if there weren't never ending Construction going on. If every buyer were to email every dealer NOT in Inn Suites and Tell them they "hope" they can get to them, but traffic, while always a problem, is going to be especially bad this year and it is a crying shame they are not at Inn Suites, where they would be certain to see them, it MIGHT convince them to let go of whatever attitude is keeping them Away and join the party in 2009. Marty Zinn, the Show Organizer tried as hard as he could to get all the meteorite dealers to Inn Suites, but a number of them held out. Still, it is the "Mecca" for meteorite goers to the Tucson Show. I Gear the directions to my auction FROM Inn Suites, because every Meteorite person knows where that is - and is usually going to be Coming from there. Please let there be no doubt, I am NOT recommending anyone Boycott dealers located elsewhere - that would be, in my opinion, very much non-constructive. If EVERYONE just let them know how difficult They are making it for loyal customers to see them and that it is a Certainty there are MANY potential customers they are missing out on Because they are not at Inn Suites, my guess is at least some of them Would come to their senses and arrange for future years to be at Inn Suites. It would serve them and customers alike. Best wishes, Michael on 1/27/08 12:23 PM, Bob Evans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh Great, > I thought it was a pain in the butt last year getting around, now the exits > are closed. > Theres another reason how sweet it would be if all meteorite dealers were at > the Innsuites. > - Original Message - > From: "Christian Anger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:26 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 > > >> Hi friends, >> >> in agency of the Austrians in Tucson (unfortunately I can't make it to the >> show this year) >> >> I have following information for you. >> >> Erich Haiderer Room 117+patio, Riverpark Inn (formerly Pueblo Inn) Room >> 117 ph (520) 6226611 ext 117 >> >> You might be informed already, but just wanted to let you know about >> tremendous >> detour challenges: As there >> is only 1 single rather hidden exit off the I-10 for a long distance it >> might >> appear likely that somebody gets lost far away of the intended goal: >> "The access to all major center show locations is a huge challenge unless >> you >> know the precise exit ramp. There is only (max.) 1 each going eastbound: >> Prince >> Road (and not! Grant road as previously indicated) and westbound: 29th >> Street. >> Take extreme care to watch out carefully for this precise exits and the >> instructions below. >> Get off I-10 at the Prince Road Exit #254 >> . Continue straight ahead on the southbound Frontage Road for >> approximately 5.0 >> miles >> . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress >> Street >> If you miss the Prince Road Exit #254, you must. >> . Continue on I-10 East for 5 miles to the next exit (6th Avenue) >> . Get off I-10 at the 6th Avenue Exit #261 >> . Turn left onto 6th Avenue and cross over the Freeway >> . Turn left onto the westbound I-10 entrance ramp & stay in left hand lane >> . Take Exit #259 (29th Street) and travel straight on the northbound >> Frontage >> Road >> approximately 3.0 miles to Congress Street >> . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway >> . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage >> Road >> . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. >> >> Directions from the East (New Mexico & El Paso): >> >> . Get off I-10 at the 29th Street Exit #259 >> . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles >> . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway >> . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage >> Road >> . The Riverpark Inn wil
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008
Oh Great, I thought it was a pain in the butt last year getting around, now the exits are closed. Theres another reason how sweet it would be if all meteorite dealers were at the Innsuites. - Original Message - From: "Christian Anger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 Hi friends, in agency of the Austrians in Tucson (unfortunately I can't make it to the show this year) I have following information for you. Erich Haiderer Room 117+patio, Riverpark Inn (formerly Pueblo Inn) Room 117 ph (520) 6226611 ext 117 You might be informed already, but just wanted to let you know about tremendous detour challenges: As there is only 1 single rather hidden exit off the I-10 for a long distance it might appear likely that somebody gets lost far away of the intended goal: "The access to all major center show locations is a huge challenge unless you know the precise exit ramp. There is only (max.) 1 each going eastbound: Prince Road (and not! Grant road as previously indicated) and westbound: 29th Street. Take extreme care to watch out carefully for this precise exits and the instructions below. Get off I-10 at the Prince Road Exit #254 . Continue straight ahead on the southbound Frontage Road for approximately 5.0 miles . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress Street If you miss the Prince Road Exit #254, you must. . Continue on I-10 East for 5 miles to the next exit (6th Avenue) . Get off I-10 at the 6th Avenue Exit #261 . Turn left onto 6th Avenue and cross over the Freeway . Turn left onto the westbound I-10 entrance ramp & stay in left hand lane . Take Exit #259 (29th Street) and travel straight on the northbound Frontage Road approximately 3.0 miles to Congress Street . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. Directions from the East (New Mexico & El Paso): . Get off I-10 at the 29th Street Exit #259 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. If you miss the 29th Street Exit #259, you must.. . Continue on I-10 West approximately 6 miles to the next exit (El Camino del Cerro/Ruthrauff Road) . Get off I-10 at El Camino del Cerro/Ruthrauff Road Exit #252 . Turn left at El Camino del Cerro, stay in left-hand lane & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn onto the southbound Frontage Road . DO NOT RE-ENTER THE FREEWAY -- Continue straight ahead on the Frontage Road for approximately 6 miles . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress St. . Get off I-19 at the 22nd-29th Street Exit #102 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. Directions from Tucson Airport: . Exit the Airport on Tucson Blvd. & continue straight . Turn left onto Valencia Road . Turn right onto I-19 North . Get off I-19 at the 22nd-29th Street Exit #102 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. On the frontage roads, a third lane is open to traffic, creating three lanes of one-way traffic in each direction from Prince Road to 29th Street for local traffic and access. This Arizona Transportation Department website has shows helpful hints and a map here: http://www.i10tucsondistrict.com/29toP.html" Best greetings to you Eric See you in Tucson Also please do not forget to visit Ahmed Pani, also a very reputable meterorite dealer from Austria. Greetings from a stormy Austria, Christian Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2008
Hi friends, in agency of the Austrians in Tucson (unfortunately I can't make it to the show this year) I have following information for you. Erich Haiderer Room 117+patio, Riverpark Inn (formerly Pueblo Inn) Room 117 ph (520) 6226611 ext 117 You might be informed already, but just wanted to let you know about tremendous detour challenges: As there is only 1 single rather hidden exit off the I-10 for a long distance it might appear likely that somebody gets lost far away of the intended goal: "The access to all major center show locations is a huge challenge unless you know the precise exit ramp. There is only (max.) 1 each going eastbound: Prince Road (and not! Grant road as previously indicated) and westbound: 29th Street. Take extreme care to watch out carefully for this precise exits and the instructions below. Get off I-10 at the Prince Road Exit #254 . Continue straight ahead on the southbound Frontage Road for approximately 5.0 miles . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress Street If you miss the Prince Road Exit #254, you must. . Continue on I-10 East for 5 miles to the next exit (6th Avenue) . Get off I-10 at the 6th Avenue Exit #261 . Turn left onto 6th Avenue and cross over the Freeway . Turn left onto the westbound I-10 entrance ramp & stay in left hand lane . Take Exit #259 (29th Street) and travel straight on the northbound Frontage Road approximately 3.0 miles to Congress Street . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. Directions from the East (New Mexico & El Paso): . Get off I-10 at the 29th Street Exit #259 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. If you miss the 29th Street Exit #259, you must.. . Continue on I-10 West approximately 6 miles to the next exit (El Camino del Cerro/Ruthrauff Road) . Get off I-10 at El Camino del Cerro/Ruthrauff Road Exit #252 . Turn left at El Camino del Cerro, stay in left-hand lane & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn onto the southbound Frontage Road . DO NOT RE-ENTER THE FREEWAY -- Continue straight ahead on the Frontage Road for approximately 6 miles . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right -- a half block past Congress St. . Get off I-19 at the 22nd-29th Street Exit #102 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. Directions from Tucson Airport: . Exit the Airport on Tucson Blvd. & continue straight . Turn left onto Valencia Road . Turn right onto I-19 North . Get off I-19 at the 22nd-29th Street Exit #102 . Continue straight ahead on the northbound Frontage Road for 1.5 miles . Turn left at Congress Street & go underneath the Freeway . Take an immediate left turn at Carl's Jr. onto the southbound Frontage Road . The Riverpark Inn will be on the right, a half block ahead. On the frontage roads, a third lane is open to traffic, creating three lanes of one-way traffic in each direction from Prince Road to 29th Street for local traffic and access. This Arizona Transportation Department website has shows helpful hints and a map here: http://www.i10tucsondistrict.com/29toP.html" Best greetings to you Eric See you in Tucson Also please do not forget to visit Ahmed Pani, also a very reputable meterorite dealer from Austria. Greetings from a stormy Austria, Christian > Ing. Christian Anger > > Korngasse 6 > > 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg > > AUSTRIA > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ??? Tucson 2008 Dates ???
Hi Nick, Here is the information we have so far. http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/ Everyone can submit their information on this form. http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/Tucson_form.htm Thank you, Paul Nicholas Gessler wrote: Hi All, Have any dates been settled for Tucson meteorite events? The party? The auction(s)? The focus of meteoric activities? I'm trying to work in a visit along with a heavy teaching schedule. I'm sure others are trying to make plans too... Best wishes to all... Nick __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ??? Tucson 2008 Dates ???
Hi All, Have any dates been settled for Tucson meteorite events? The party? The auction(s)? The focus of meteoric activities? I'm trying to work in a visit along with a heavy teaching schedule. I'm sure others are trying to make plans too... Best wishes to all... Nick __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2008 - Correct Dates
Dear Dave, Keith, Matt, Listees: No disrespect to my pal Keith, but I suggest we disregard the URL posted earlier: http://www.tucsongemshowguide.com It's a knock-off site, and they don't have the show dates correct. The most comprehensive Tucson guide (apart from "Meteorite Times" of course) is here: http://www.tucsonshowguide.com Please note this site is not fully up-to-date for 2008 yet, but the main show dates are listed. The part many of you care about is the Arizona Mineral and Fossil Show, which is Marty Zinn's operation and encompasses the InnSuites, the Ramada Inn Limited, etc. That show runs from Feb. 2 through Feb. 16, 2008. The Westward Look show runs from Feb. 8 through Feb. 11, 2008. The party, the Harvey Awards, and Michael Blood's auction always fall on the middle weekend each year, which would place them on February 8 and 9 and that will coincide nicely with the short but excellent Westward Look weekend show. Steve Arnold #1, Cap'n Blood and myself will put our heads together and finalize those event dates for you. I suppose this is as good a time as any to mention that I have accepted the position of Managing Editor and Art Director of the "Tucson EZ-Guide." That is the colorful, easy-to-use pocket guide which has been such a hit for the past couple of years. The publishers -- Xpo Press in Colorado -- are friends and clients and they want the "EZ-Guide" to be *the* hip Tucson guide. They envision it being written, designed, and printed right here in Tucson and I just couldn't bear to say no to that idea : ) My good friend and colleague Lisa Marie, a well-known silversmith, jeweler, and writer here in Tucson, is the new ad sales manager. If you have advertised in the guide before and wish to do so again, please contact Xpo Press. If you wish to become a new advertiser, please write to me off-List. This all means two things for me: 1) We intend to produce the best-ever Tucson show guide, and I welcome any feedback from those of you who have used it in the past. 2) I will have much less free time in 2008 than I have during previous shows, as the guide is a large undertaking. I will, therefore, not be able to organize the party, the Harvey Awards, and the rest of it without some help. I'd hate to see the party and the awards disappear after -- what is it now? -- seven consecutive years. We no longer have use of The Copper Club, partly because the manager is one of the rudest people I have ever met, and partly because the dear old Ramada Inn University is now some kind of chic student housing resort. So, one or more of you will have to please step up and help me organize the 2008 party or there isn't going to be one. Volunteers enthusiastically received. Please write to me off-List. More Tucson 2008 news when we have it. Regards to all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list