Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska rates

2009-11-15 Thread E.P. Grondine
Bonsoir Arnauld - 

When I stumbled into Clube and Napier's work and others in 1997 was when I 
realized that the NASA rates from asteroid population were too low. Its 
cometary and comet fragment impacts, and the small fragments are damned hard to 
find.

I think Shoemaker's final paper out of Canada had better rates. The ones that I 
came up with were just from historical/myth-historical materials, but with 
archaeological confirmation - i.e. for the YD impacts there's quarry usage data.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, The Tricottet Collection  wrote:

> From: The Tricottet Collection 
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Tunguska rates
> To: "E.P. Grondine" , "MeteoriteList" 
> 
> Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 3:01 AM
> 
> Hi E.P. et al., 
> 
> actually, what the journalist of BI wrote is inaccurate.
> You can read in our report that we used 1 per 1000 years as
> our preferred value, following the most up-to-date
> frequency-size distribution [Brown et al, 2002], but we also
> tested 1 per 200 years [Shoemaker, 1983] and noted that the
> rate could be far higher if hypotheses from geomythology and
> related were to be verified.
> 
> Best,
> 
> ArnaudM
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:20:11 -0800
> > From: epgrond...@yahoo.com
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska rates
> > 
> > Hi Arnauld, all, 
> > 
> > The problem is that Tunguska type blasts have been
> occuring recently (for the last 5,000 years) at a rate of 1
> per 100 years, not 1 per 1,000. Whether this represents a
> short term phenonmenon or the long term rate is not
> currently known.
> > 
> > I used to put together catalogues of "known and
> suspected impacts", you may want to google that, and if you
> have not bought a copy of "Man and Impact in the Americas"
> yet, well, it is the best available recent impact rate data
> for the Americas. 
> > 
> > E.P. Grondine
> > Man and Impact in the Americas
> > 
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska rates

2009-11-15 Thread The Tricottet Collection

Hi E.P. et al., 

actually, what the journalist of BI wrote is inaccurate. You can read in our 
report that we used 1 per 1000 years as our preferred value, following the most 
up-to-date frequency-size distribution [Brown et al, 2002], but we also tested 
1 per 200 years [Shoemaker, 1983] and noted that the rate could be far higher 
if hypotheses from geomythology and related were to be verified.

Best,

ArnaudM



> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:20:11 -0800
> From: epgrond...@yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska rates
> 
> Hi Arnauld, all, 
> 
> The problem is that Tunguska type blasts have been occuring recently (for the 
> last 5,000 years) at a rate of 1 per 100 years, not 1 per 1,000. Whether this 
> represents a short term phenonmenon or the long term rate is not currently 
> known.
> 
> I used to put together catalogues of "known and suspected impacts", you may 
> want to google that, and if you have not bought a copy of "Man and Impact in 
> the Americas" yet, well, it is the best available recent impact rate data for 
> the Americas. 
> 
> E.P. Grondine
> Man and Impact in the Americas
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] Tunguska rates

2009-11-14 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Arnauld, all, 

The problem is that Tunguska type blasts have been occuring recently (for the 
last 5,000 years) at a rate of 1 per 100 years, not 1 per 1,000. Whether this 
represents a short term phenonmenon or the long term rate is not currently 
known.

I used to put together catalogues of "known and suspected impacts", you may 
want to google that, and if you have not bought a copy of "Man and Impact in 
the Americas" yet, well, it is the best available recent impact rate data for 
the Americas. 

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


  
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