Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Hi Tom and all, Your one of those buyers that I would have no problem sending the item on before I recieved payment, though you usually pay so fast I don't have time to do that. Good trusted buyers no problem. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone! Hope your holidays are filled with joy. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites - Original Message - From: Tom Randall (KB2SMS) tommy2...@hvc.rr.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member Hi folks and Happy Holidays, I would suggest not sending any items until payment is received. I occasionally buy from some of you folks on ebay, don't let some scumbag ruin it for you or the legitimate collectors. Report these fraud buyers and block them and spread the word about them. No money, not item. If they don't like it tell them to go elsewhere. Regards, Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Greetings Mirko and all, I'd like to suggest something different about this bidder and others that I have had to deal with. It is my belief that some bidders will bid and wait to see if you will ship the item to them so they can get something for free. It's why he is bidding on so many items in hopes of someone sending the item on. I also had someone bid on my item and wouldn't pay for it until I shipped it to them. I told them it was not my policy of doing this unless you are a long time customer. This was before eBay fixed the feedback system for only bidders to give bad feedback, limiting what a seller could do. After a fair amount of time passed, I left negative feedback and promptly got negative feedback (that was fair wasn't it) from this scum bidder. I really despise eBay these days and because of another problem I have had with them have not listed items this holiday season. --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Hi folks and Happy Holidays, I would suggest not sending any items until payment is received. I occasionally buy from some of you folks on ebay, don't let some scumbag ruin it for you or the legitimate collectors. Report these fraud buyers and block them and spread the word about them. No money, not item. If they don't like it tell them to go elsewhere. Regards, Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
I've always paid first and then wait for delivery which depending on the vagaries of postal systems can take awhile. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Aloha Mirko, Thank you for this warning to the list. I have not made any sales to this tri-ball34, but have had buyers default on payment several times in the past. All of them were new ebay members with less than 10 feedbacks, just like tri-ball34. And none of them contacted me to communicate why they don't want to pay, even after many polite messages to them. I don't know if it is buyer's remorse or ebay rule ignorance, but i have noticed several dealers add a disclaimer to their listings imploring that buyers with less than 10 feedbacks not bid on their items. I am hoping not to employ a similar action, as we all had to start somewhere ... gary On Dec 19, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Mirko Graul wrote: Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Yes, I would recommend banning this guy. He's a sport bidder, who bids on stuff then never pays for it or responds when you email him. He's in Montpelier, France. Happy Festivus, Peak Shoppping, Saturnalia, Winter Solstice, Druid Yule Day and Kwanzaa! Phil Whitmer Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Hi Gary, yes, this is a good possibility of such difficulties would be out of the way to go. But I also know many very reliable buyer who still have under 10 points. And that would not be fair to this buyers. One will have to continue to live with the risk. By this guy I had already from the beginning a bad feeling. It offers so high that no other bid can reach him more. I think this is clearly a Fun bidder. Regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) --- Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com schrieb am So, 19.12.2010: Von: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member An: Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 19:58 Uhr Aloha Mirko, Thank you for this warning to the list. I have not made any sales to this tri-ball34, but have had buyers default on payment several times in the past. All of them were new ebay members with less than 10 feedbacks, just like tri-ball34. And none of them contacted me to communicate why they don't want to pay, even after many polite messages to them. I don't know if it is buyer's remorse or ebay rule ignorance, but i have noticed several dealers add a disclaimer to their listings imploring that buyers with less than 10 feedbacks not bid on their items. I am hoping not to employ a similar action, as we all had to start somewhere ... gary On Dec 19, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Mirko Graul wrote: Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Hi Mirko and list, I have had 2 non payments from this bidder in the past with no contact for days and then promises of payment followed by more non contact. Everyone has financial burdens and delayed payment is no problem but non communication is not on. I will now block this bidder. Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Doesn't this guy have a horrid ebay rating??? Michael On 12/19/10 12:01 PM, Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Gary, yes, this is a good possibility of such difficulties would be out of the way to go. But I also know many very reliable buyer who still have under 10 points. And that would not be fair to this buyers. One will have to continue to live with the risk. By this guy I had already from the beginning a bad feeling. It offers so high that no other bid can reach him more. I think this is clearly a Fun bidder. Regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) --- Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com schrieb am So, 19.12.2010: Von: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member An: Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 19:58 Uhr Aloha Mirko, Thank you for this warning to the list. I have not made any sales to this tri-ball34, but have had buyers default on payment several times in the past. All of them were new ebay members with less than 10 feedbacks, just like tri-ball34. And none of them contacted me to communicate why they don't want to pay, even after many polite messages to them. I don't know if it is buyer's remorse or ebay rule ignorance, but i have noticed several dealers add a disclaimer to their listings imploring that buyers with less than 10 feedbacks not bid on their items. I am hoping not to employ a similar action, as we all had to start somewhere ... gary On Dec 19, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Mirko Graul wrote: Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
At this point, the guy shouldn't even have an eBay account, less yet a feedback rating. On 12/19/10, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Doesn't this guy have a horrid ebay rating??? Michael On 12/19/10 12:01 PM, Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Gary, yes, this is a good possibility of such difficulties would be out of the way to go. But I also know many very reliable buyer who still have under 10 points. And that would not be fair to this buyers. One will have to continue to live with the risk. By this guy I had already from the beginning a bad feeling. It offers so high that no other bid can reach him more. I think this is clearly a Fun bidder. Regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) --- Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com schrieb am So, 19.12.2010: Von: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member An: Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 19:58 Uhr Aloha Mirko, Thank you for this warning to the list. I have not made any sales to this tri-ball34, but have had buyers default on payment several times in the past. All of them were new ebay members with less than 10 feedbacks, just like tri-ball34. And none of them contacted me to communicate why they don't want to pay, even after many polite messages to them. I don't know if it is buyer's remorse or ebay rule ignorance, but i have noticed several dealers add a disclaimer to their listings imploring that buyers with less than 10 feedbacks not bid on their items. I am hoping not to employ a similar action, as we all had to start somewhere ... gary On Dec 19, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Mirko Graul wrote: Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with some other dealers and it looks as if many traders are concerned. Are there any other dealers who have not received payment from him ?? I have blocked this member now. Many greetings to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member
Judging by some bidding I've seen on recent auctions a couple of others may be doing the same thing. Anyone have other culprits? Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list