Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
Cool! - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites Dear List, Scientists reported fluid trains in the olivine of NWA 969 which I had a chance to see under a very high powered microscope. They looked like bubbles that you would see tailing a scuba diver underwater arranged in groups or fluid trains as reported to the NomCom during classification. I do not know if these contain water or some liquefied gas under high pressure hence the question mark in our auctions. What is needed is a freezing stage on a microscope to see what temperature they solidify. I was told, it is not that uncommon to find these fluid trains in terrestrial olivine that contain water, you just need to know what to look for. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Marc Fries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites Howdy I scored a piece of that meteorite and had it made into three thin sections. I've looked at a couple of dozen likely inclusions with our snazzy new Raman imaging device and didn't find an iota of water. I don't think there's any to be found. It is known that glassy inclusions in meteorites contain a high vacuum, and it seems far more likely to me that someone came across a cracked inclusion full of cutting fluid than a recrystallized asteroidal sample that contains water. Cheers, MDF > "There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: > > - Monahans > - Zag > > What about the Hupe's NWA969 LL7 Meteorite Containing Bottled Water? > > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > > - Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:35 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites > > >> Tom inquired: >> >> > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water >> > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall? >> >> Because they do not contain *l i q u i d* water. The water found >> in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be >> extracted by heating the meteorite samples. >> >> There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: >> >> - Monahans >> - Zag >> >> where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites. >> >> see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Bernd >> >> __ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 >> >> > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Marc Fries Postdoctoral Research Associate Carnegie Institution of Washington Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW Washington, DC 20015 PH: 202 478 7970 FAX: 202 478 8901 - I urge you to show your support to American servicemen and servicewomen currently serving in harm's way by donating items they personally request at: http://www.anysoldier.com (This is not an endorsement by the Geophysical Laboratory or the Carnegie Institution.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
Dear List, Scientists reported fluid trains in the olivine of NWA 969 which I had a chance to see under a very high powered microscope. They looked like bubbles that you would see tailing a scuba diver underwater arranged in groups or fluid trains as reported to the NomCom during classification. I do not know if these contain water or some liquefied gas under high pressure hence the question mark in our auctions. What is needed is a freezing stage on a microscope to see what temperature they solidify. I was told, it is not that uncommon to find these fluid trains in terrestrial olivine that contain water, you just need to know what to look for. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Marc Fries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites > Howdy > >I scored a piece of that meteorite and had it made into three thin > sections. I've looked at a couple of dozen likely inclusions with our > snazzy new Raman imaging device and didn't find an iota of water. I > don't think there's any to be found. It is known that glassy > inclusions in meteorites contain a high vacuum, and it seems far more > likely to me that someone came across a cracked inclusion full of > cutting fluid than a recrystallized asteroidal sample that contains > water. > > Cheers, > MDF > > > "There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: > > > > - Monahans > > - Zag > > > > What about the Hupe's NWA969 LL7 Meteorite Containing Bottled Water? > > > > Thanks, Tom > > peregrineflier <>< > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:35 PM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites > > > > > >> Tom inquired: > >> > >> > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water > >> > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall? > >> > >> Because they do not contain *l i q u i d* water. The water found > >> in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be > >> extracted by heating the meteorite samples. > >> > >> There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: > >> > >> - Monahans > >> - Zag > >> > >> where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites. > >> > >> see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List! > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Bernd > >> > >> __ > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 > >> > >> > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > -- > Marc Fries > Postdoctoral Research Associate > Carnegie Institution of Washington > Geophysical Laboratory > 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW > Washington, DC 20015 > PH: 202 478 7970 > FAX: 202 478 8901 > - > I urge you to show your support to American servicemen and servicewomen > currently serving in harm's way by donating items they personally request > at: > http://www.anysoldier.com > (This is not an endorsement by the Geophysical Laboratory or the Carnegie > Institution.) > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
Howdy I scored a piece of that meteorite and had it made into three thin sections. I've looked at a couple of dozen likely inclusions with our snazzy new Raman imaging device and didn't find an iota of water. I don't think there's any to be found. It is known that glassy inclusions in meteorites contain a high vacuum, and it seems far more likely to me that someone came across a cracked inclusion full of cutting fluid than a recrystallized asteroidal sample that contains water. Cheers, MDF > "There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: > > - Monahans > - Zag > > What about the Hupe's NWA969 LL7 Meteorite Containing Bottled Water? > > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:35 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites > > >> Tom inquired: >> >> > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water >> > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall? >> >> Because they do not contain *l i q u i d* water. The water found >> in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be >> extracted by heating the meteorite samples. >> >> There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: >> >> - Monahans >> - Zag >> >> where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites. >> >> see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Bernd >> >> __ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 >> >> > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Marc Fries Postdoctoral Research Associate Carnegie Institution of Washington Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW Washington, DC 20015 PH: 202 478 7970 FAX: 202 478 8901 - I urge you to show your support to American servicemen and servicewomen currently serving in harm's way by donating items they personally request at: http://www.anysoldier.com (This is not an endorsement by the Geophysical Laboratory or the Carnegie Institution.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
As Zag is very widespread among the collectors as one of the most affordable observed falls - did anyone observed those salt crystals yet? They seem to be quite rare Meow? Martin - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites > Tom inquired: > > > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water > > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall? > > Because they do not contain *l i q u i d* water. The water found > in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be > extracted by heating the meteorite samples. > > There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: > > - Monahans > - Zag > > where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites. > > see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List! > > Best wishes, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
"There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: - Monahans - Zag What about the Hupe's NWA969 LL7 Meteorite Containing Bottled Water? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites > Tom inquired: > > > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water > > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall? > > Because they do not contain *l i q u i d* water. The water found > in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be > extracted by heating the meteorite samples. > > There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: > > - Monahans > - Zag > > where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites. > > see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List! > > Best wishes, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
Tom inquired: > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall? Because they do not contain *l i q u i d* water. The water found in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be extracted by heating the meteorite samples. There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water: - Monahans - Zag where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites. see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
