[meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum format?
Helo Anne and Norbert; I agree with your summation of this matter wholeheartedly.Especially Norberts description of the friendly laid back atmosphere.I also look forward to reading the digest i receive every day.And i really appreciate all the posts by all the members,no matter what it is about.By the way, i also use the delete key a lot,freedom of choice,i think. Thanks Art! I for one appreciate all you do. Best regards;Herman Archer IMCA # 2770. **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum format?
Hi Del & Greg, If you visit the meteoritecentral site (the home of this list), and check your own subscription settings you will notice that there is an option to deactivate email delivery for times such as vacation - it's just one click, and you won't have to wade through hundreds of emails after your return. And then there is the digest mode, and much more. Yeap, mailing lists did evolve during the last decade, and they are surely not "out of time" ,-) To me, being part of this list is like walking into my favorite pub after work. I often meet old friends, make new friends, and I'm free to participate in discussions, and I'm free to relax or to listen to all the meteorite gossip going on. Sometimes there's even a good deal to be had, or firsthand information on new finds and falls that would be hard to find without having to search the net for hours and hours. And if I don't like a post or a thread there's always the good old delete key. Forums can be neat, for sure - but they are usually more like that modern type of bar with separate rooms where some folks get together at this, and others on that table. Most of the meteorite forums I've visited thus far are lacking the chaotic but familiar charm of this list. Thanks to Art for all his efforts to keep this good old list up and running! Cheers, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi Del, I agree with you. If I'm away from my computer for just a few days, I have a couple of hundred e-mails to go through. What a pain. Plus, I have to look very carefully at the e-mails because I delete the vast majority of the ones from the meteorite list. If I don't check the e-mails carefully, I may delete an actual e-mail from a friend. It's happened before. I've moderated a Yahoo Group (forum) for about 6 years and it is much more user friendly than the Meteorite List. I love all of the knowledge that is given out by the members of this list. I just wish it didn't come to me in my e-mail. With respect, Greg Lindh > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:35:18 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an online forum format? > > I agree with this too! A lot of very good info here > and boy it really sucks if you go on vacation or > something because you'll have 100+ emails to clean > out. > > The least that could be done for a forum is maybe > setting up something through Yahoo. It isn't that > difficult to do and it would probably take an hour or > two to setup. > > Del > > > --- JKGwilliam wrote: > >> David and List, >> I don't know the answer to your questions, but they >> sure make >> sense. About a year and a half ago, I finally shut >> down the >> Meteorite Impact Forum due to a lack of >> participation. Even with >> nearly 200 registered members, there was very little >> traffic for the >> final three months. Online forums offer a lot of >> updated features >> that the old mail servers don't. The one feature >> that I really like, >> and is reason enough to use a forum, is that replies >> stay in >> chronological order. I don't know about the rest of >> you, but it's >> very frustrating for me to try and read all the >> replies to a thread >> in order. I end up reading all the replies and then >> try guessing what >> order they should be in. If you miss even one >> reply, some threads >> don't make sense. With a forum, this doesn't happen. >> My only guess is that the Meteorite List has been >> around for a long >> time ( I've been here for 10 years) that no one >> wants to mess with >> convention. Or, could it be an old dog/new trick >> issue? >> >> Best, >> >> John >> >> At 12:56 PM 2/21/2008, David & Kitt Deyarmin wrote: >>>I'm not trying to stir up trouble or incite >> arguments I'm just curious. >>> >>>Email lists are by today's standard an antiquated >> venue for >>>discussing any hobby. >>> >>>They have many limitations and can be taxing on >> your email inbox, >>>which is why I receive the Dailey Digest. I delete >> them and do all >>>of my reading from the archives. >>> >>>Online forums are easier to use and the posted info >> is easier to track. >>> >>>Plus it's easy to ignore topics that you're not >> interested in >>>without having to pick through a bunch of emails. >>> >>>However, I would like to understand why so many of >> the members here >>>prefer not to use forums. >>> >>>I want to make it clear that I'm not trying stir up >> trouble, I'm >>>just trying to understand the aversion most of this >> list has to using a forum. >>> >>> >>>__ >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@me
Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum format?
In a message dated 2/21/2008 3:37:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Del & Greg, If you visit the meteoritecentral site (the home of this list), and check your own subscription settings you will notice that there is an option to deactivate email delivery for times such as vacation - it's just one click, and you won't have to wade through hundreds of emails after your return. And then there is the digest mode, and much more. Yeap, mailing lists did evolve during the last decade, and they are surely not "out of time" ,-) To me, being part of this list is like walking into my favorite pub after work. I often meet old friends, make new friends, and I'm free to participate in discussions, and I'm free to relax or to listen to all the meteorite gossip going on. Sometimes there's even a good deal to be had, or firsthand information on new finds and falls that would be hard to find without having to search the net for hours and hours. And if I don't like a post or a thread there's always the good old delete key. Forums can be neat, for sure - but they are usually more like that modern type of bar with separate rooms where some folks get together at this, and others on that table. Most of the meteorite forums I've visited thus far are lacking the chaotic but familiar charm of this list. Thanks to Art for all his efforts to keep this good old list up and running! Cheers, Norbert -- Exactly, Norbert. Very good comparison. I like the email format too and have no problem following some threads, and ignoring others. Maybe we should also try to remember that this is Art's List, and we are guests. And that information, news, gossip, fellowship (and even disagreements) comes to us with very little effort from any of us. Only the use of the Delete key every now and then. OK! yes, sometimes the highly repeated use of the Delete key. Thanks Art, nice seeing you in Tucson. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum format?
I'll give that a try Norton. Thanks! Del --- Norbert Classen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Del & Greg, > > If you visit the meteoritecentral site (the home of > this list), and check > your own subscription settings you will notice that > there is an option to > deactivate email delivery for times such as vacation > - it's just one click, > and you won't have to wade through hundreds of > emails after your return. And > then there is the digest mode, and much more. Yeap, > mailing lists did evolve > during the last decade, and they are surely not "out > of time" ,-) > To me, being part of this list is like walking into > my favorite pub after > work. I often meet old friends, make new friends, > and I'm free to > participate in discussions, and I'm free to relax or > to listen to all the > meteorite gossip going on. Sometimes there's even a > good deal to be had, or > firsthand information on new finds and falls that > would be hard to find > without having to search the net for hours and > hours. And if I don't like a > post or a thread there's always the good old delete > key. > Forums can be neat, for sure - but they are usually > more like that modern > type of bar with separate rooms where some folks get > together at this, and > others on that table. Most of the meteorite forums > I've visited thus far are > lacking the chaotic but familiar charm of this list. > Thanks to Art for all > his efforts to keep this good old list up and > running! > > Cheers, > Norbert > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Hi Del, > > I agree with you. If I'm away from my computer > for just a few days, I > have a couple of hundred e-mails to go through. > What a pain. Plus, I have > to look very carefully at the e-mails because I > delete the vast majority of > the ones from the meteorite list. If I don't check > the e-mails carefully, I > may delete an actual e-mail from a friend. It's > happened before. > I've moderated a Yahoo Group (forum) for about 6 > years and it is much more > user friendly than the Meteorite List. I love all > of the knowledge that is > given out by the members of this list. I just wish > it didn't come to me in > my e-mail. > > With respect, >Greg Lindh > > > > > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:35:18 -0800 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this > list use an online forum > format? > > > > I agree with this too! A lot of very good info > here > > and boy it really sucks if you go on vacation or > > something because you'll have 100+ emails to clean > > out. > > > > The least that could be done for a forum is maybe > > setting up something through Yahoo. It isn't that > > difficult to do and it would probably take an hour > or > > two to setup. > > > > Del > > > > > > --- JKGwilliam wrote: > > > >> David and List, > >> I don't know the answer to your questions, but > they > >> sure make > >> sense. About a year and a half ago, I finally > shut > >> down the > >> Meteorite Impact Forum due to a lack of > >> participation. Even with > >> nearly 200 registered members, there was very > little > >> traffic for the > >> final three months. Online forums offer a lot of > >> updated features > >> that the old mail servers don't. The one feature > >> that I really like, > >> and is reason enough to use a forum, is that > replies > >> stay in > >> chronological order. I don't know about the rest > of > >> you, but it's > >> very frustrating for me to try and read all the > >> replies to a thread > >> in order. I end up reading all the replies and > then > >> try guessing what > >> order they should be in. If you miss even one > >> reply, some threads > >> don't make sense. With a forum, this doesn't > happen. > >> My only guess is that the Meteorite List has been > >> around for a long > >> time ( I've been here for 10 years) that no one > >> wants to mess with > >> convention. Or, could it be an old dog/new trick > >> issue? > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> John > >> > >> At 12:56 PM 2/21/2008, David & Kitt Deyarmin > wrote: > >>>I'm not trying to stir up trouble or incite > >> arguments I'm just curious. > >>> > >>>Email lists are by today's standard an antiquated > >> venue for > >>>discussing any hobby. > >>> > >>>They have many limitations and can be taxing on > >> your email inbox, > >>>which is why I receive the Dailey Digest. I > delete > >> them and do all > >>>of my reading from the archives. > >>> > >>>Online forums are easier to use and the posted > info > >> is easier to track. > >>> > >>>Plus it's easy to ignore topics that you're not > >> interested in > >>>without having to pick through a bunch of emails. > >>> > >>>However, I would like to understand why so many > of > >> the members here > >>>prefer not to use forums. > >>> > >>>I want to make it clear that I'm not trying stir > up > >> trouble, I'm > >>>just trying to
Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum format?
Hi Everyone; First of all ... Anne, it was great seeing you as well (and Geoff, Steve(s), Mike, ET, Sonny, and many others!) along with all of your wonderful meteorites! Now, I'll respond to David's initial post, both from a personal preference standpoint and as well as from a web admin's standpoint. >From a personal standpoint I have to agree with Norbert and Darren; while I do use several forums I get much better use from the mailing lists I belong to. It seems that no matter how hard I try I can't seem to make myself go back to the forums on any regular basis (I often post a forum topic and then forget I did - not seeing any replies for weeks). I know that many forums have features built-in to handle that type of thing (e.g. topic subscription, notification, etc.) but I just don't seem to use them (and I am pretty tech savvy). Probably the old dog/new trick thing that John mentioned. >From a web admin's standpoint, I would actually rather have the conversations going on in a forum as they would be easier to manage, as well as easier to monetize (and help pay for hosting, etc.). Meteorite Central actually started out as a forum ten years ago but never really took off in that format. I think the long-term answer is something similar to yahoo groups, which kind of uses a forum as the "backup" to a mailing list. I am in the process of integrating the current mailing list with the forum that is on Meteorite Central. It's an involved process and I don't have an ETA on completion. The way it work is that emails sent to the list and posts made to the forum will do basically the same thing, so members who like the emails wouldn't see any difference, but members who like the forum format could use it that way, along with the added features a forum would offer. I'll keep everyone posted regarding progress. In the meantime, I hope that everyone continues to enjoy the mailing list, as well as all the other resources out there! Best Regards, Art http://www.meteoritecentral.com On 2/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/2008 3:37:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi Del & Greg, > > If you visit the meteoritecentral site (the home of this list), and check > your own subscription settings you will notice that there is an option to > deactivate email delivery for times such as vacation - it's just one click, > and you won't have to wade through hundreds of emails after your return. And > then there is the digest mode, and much more. Yeap, mailing lists did evolve > during the last decade, and they are surely not "out of time" ,-) > To me, being part of this list is like walking into my favorite pub after > work. I often meet old friends, make new friends, and I'm free to > participate in discussions, and I'm free to relax or to listen to all the > meteorite gossip going on. Sometimes there's even a good deal to be had, or > firsthand information on new finds and falls that would be hard to find > without having to search the net for hours and hours. And if I don't like a > post or a thread there's always the good old delete key. > Forums can be neat, for sure - but they are usually more like that modern > type of bar with separate rooms where some folks get together at this, and > others on that table. Most of the meteorite forums I've visited thus far are > lacking the chaotic but familiar charm of this list. Thanks to Art for all > his efforts to keep this good old list up and running! > > Cheers, > Norbert > -- > > Exactly, Norbert. > Very good comparison. I like the email format too and have no problem > following some threads, and ignoring others. > > Maybe we should also try to remember that this is Art's List, and we are > guests. > And that information, news, gossip, fellowship (and even disagreements) > comes to us with very little effort from any of us. > Only the use of the Delete key every now and then. OK! yes, sometimes the > highly repeated use of the Delete key. > > Thanks Art, nice seeing you in Tucson. > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > www.IMCA.cc > > > > > **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum format?
Hi Art, I appreciate this List and all that you do. This is my main source of information concerning the subject of meteorites. The service that you and the collectors/dealers/hunters do is invaluable. I do hope that you follow through with plans to create a forum so that those who want to participate at that level, can do so. I've moderated a Yahoo forum for about 6 years. I find it much more user friendly that the List. In any event, keep up the good work. Regards, Greg Lindh > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:40:43 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an onlineforum > format? > > Hi Everyone; > > First of all ... Anne, it was great seeing you as well (and Geoff, > Steve(s), Mike, ET, Sonny, and many others!) along with all of your > wonderful meteorites! > > Now, I'll respond to David's initial post, both from a personal > preference standpoint and as well as from a web admin's standpoint. > >>From a personal standpoint I have to agree with Norbert and Darren; > while I do use several forums I get much better use from the mailing > lists I belong to. It seems that no matter how hard I try I can't seem > to make myself go back to the forums on any regular basis (I often > post a forum topic and then forget I did - not seeing any replies for > weeks). I know that many forums have features built-in to handle that > type of thing (e.g. topic subscription, notification, etc.) but I just > don't seem to use them (and I am pretty tech savvy). Probably the old > dog/new trick thing that John mentioned. > >>From a web admin's standpoint, I would actually rather have the > conversations going on in a forum as they would be easier to manage, > as well as easier to monetize (and help pay for hosting, etc.). > Meteorite Central actually started out as a forum ten years ago but > never really took off in that format. > > I think the long-term answer is something similar to yahoo groups, > which kind of uses a forum as the "backup" to a mailing list. I am in > the process of integrating the current mailing list with the forum > that is on Meteorite Central. It's an involved process and I don't > have an ETA on completion. The way it work is that emails sent > to the list and posts made to the forum will do basically the same > thing, so members who like the emails wouldn't see any difference, but > members who like the forum format could use it that way, along with > the added features a forum would offer. I'll keep everyone posted > regarding progress. > > In the meantime, I hope that everyone continues to enjoy the mailing > list, as well as all the other resources out there! > > Best Regards, Art > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > On 2/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> In a message dated 2/21/2008 3:37:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Hi Del & Greg, >> >> If you visit the meteoritecentral site (the home of this list), and check >> your own subscription settings you will notice that there is an option to >> deactivate email delivery for times such as vacation - it's just one click, >> and you won't have to wade through hundreds of emails after your return. And >> then there is the digest mode, and much more. Yeap, mailing lists did evolve >> during the last decade, and they are surely not "out of time" ,-) >> To me, being part of this list is like walking into my favorite pub after >> work. I often meet old friends, make new friends, and I'm free to >> participate in discussions, and I'm free to relax or to listen to all the >> meteorite gossip going on. Sometimes there's even a good deal to be had, or >> firsthand information on new finds and falls that would be hard to find >> without having to search the net for hours and hours. And if I don't like a >> post or a thread there's always the good old delete key. >> Forums can be neat, for sure - but they are usually more like that modern >> type of bar with separate rooms where some folks get together at this, and >> others on that table. Most of the meteorite forums I've visited thus far are >> lacking the chaotic but familiar charm of this list. Thanks to Art for all >> his efforts to keep this good old list up and running! >> >> Cheers, >> Norbert >> -- >> >> Exactly, Norbert. >> Very good comparison. I like the email format too and have no pr
