Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN
Hi Sterling - Thanks much for the link. The Rev. Dick's work was probably the ultimate source for the face on mars stuff we see today. Incorporated into American spiritualist movements, Dick's nonsense lives on to today. My favorite hoax was a trans-Atlantic balloon crossing fabricated by Edgar Allen Poe to avenge himself on an editor who had stiffed him. good hunting, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Mark is certainly correct about the hoaxing > propensities > of 19th century (and early 20th century) newspapers. > The > ultimate example is that is the "Great Moon Hoax" of > 1832: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moon_Hoax > > You will note that Mark's list is of very > dramatic accounts. > OK, the death of a wedding guest has a certain > drama, but > the death of a horse in West Virginia is not the > stuff of a real > blockbuster. > > To be sure, we need to be certain. Somebody has > to go > there, get the stone, and do all the scientific > dirty work. BUT, > that does not mean the obverse, that all unverified > events are > untrue, hoaxes, folk tales, urban legends, and the > like. SOME > are; others are not. > > When we get back to older historical records, > they are most > often just that: records, official, never made > public, internal > documents, private correspondence, and so forth. > Gervase of > Canterbury's description of a dramatic Lunar impact > event > witnessed on the evening of June 18, 1178, was > recorded in > the "day book" of the monastery and not discovered > for many > centuries; it was not sent immediately to cable TV. > > [Currently that event is on the debunking > calendar: > http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news118.html > but the debunker's arguments are themselves bunk, > well, > that's not the topic here.] > > But, in Mark's wonderful collection of newspaper > accounts > of real meteorites that actually fell, one will find > lots of bizarre > "details" that sound "fake." So, if REAL falls > produce partially > unbelievable accounts, why should a reasonably sober > account > be dismissed out of hand? > > > Sterling K. Webb > - > - Original Message - > From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more > > > Michael Blood asked: > > "However, I was wondering what the NAME of this > meteorite is > "Zvezvan" is not listed in Meteorites A to Z." > > Because newspaper reports are not always correct. > > I wouldn't add any of these to your list either > Michael. > > http://www.meteoritearticles.com/meteorwrongsMT.html > > Clear Skies, > Mark > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN
One horse had its head crushed and nearly torn from the trunk by a fragment of the meteor, and another horse in the next stall was discovered to be stone deaf. stone deaf. Intentional pun? Cheers, Pete From: Jeffrey Shallit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:09 -0500 (EST) Here's the article you requested: New York Times, March 11 1897, p. 1 EXPLOSION OF A METEOR --- One Man Rendered Unconscious and the Head of a Horse Crushed Parkersburg, West Va., March 10. - A meteor burst over the town of New Martinsville yesterday. The noise of the explosion resembled the shock of a heavy artillery salute, and was heard for twenty miles. The cylindrical shaped ball of fire was forging along in a southwesterly direction when first discovered. The hissing sound of the fire could be heard for miles, and the smoke gave the meteor the appearance of a burning balloon. When the meteor exploded the pieces flew in all directions, like a volcanic upheaval, and solid walls were pierced by the fragments. David Leisure was knocked down by the force of the air caused by the rapidity with which the body passed, before it broke. The blow rendered him unconscious. One horse had its head crushed and nearly torn from the trunk by a fragment of the meteor, and another horse in the next stall was discovered to be stone deaf. The coming of the meteor was heralded by a rumbling noise, followed in an instant by the hissing sound, and immediately the ball of fire, spitting and smoking, burst into full view, and before the people had time to collect their senses, the explosion occurred. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Dont waste time standing in linetry shopping online. Visit Sympatico / MSN Shopping today! http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN
Here's the article you requested: New York Times, March 11 1897, p. 1 EXPLOSION OF A METEOR --- One Man Rendered Unconscious and the Head of a Horse Crushed Parkersburg, West Va., March 10. - A meteor burst over the town of New Martinsville yesterday. The noise of the explosion resembled the shock of a heavy artillery salute, and was heard for twenty miles. The cylindrical shaped ball of fire was forging along in a southwesterly direction when first discovered. The hissing sound of the fire could be heard for miles, and the smoke gave the meteor the appearance of a burning balloon. When the meteor exploded the pieces flew in all directions, like a volcanic upheaval, and solid walls were pierced by the fragments. David Leisure was knocked down by the force of the air caused by the rapidity with which the body passed, before it broke. The blow rendered him unconscious. One horse had its head crushed and nearly torn from the trunk by a fragment of the meteor, and another horse in the next stall was discovered to be stone deaf. The coming of the meteor was heralded by a rumbling noise, followed in an instant by the hissing sound, and immediately the ball of fire, spitting and smoking, burst into full view, and before the people had time to collect their senses, the explosion occurred. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN
Hi, Mark is certainly correct about the hoaxing propensities of 19th century (and early 20th century) newspapers. The ultimate example is that is the "Great Moon Hoax" of 1832: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moon_Hoax You will note that Mark's list is of very dramatic accounts. OK, the death of a wedding guest has a certain drama, but the death of a horse in West Virginia is not the stuff of a real blockbuster. To be sure, we need to be certain. Somebody has to go there, get the stone, and do all the scientific dirty work. BUT, that does not mean the obverse, that all unverified events are untrue, hoaxes, folk tales, urban legends, and the like. SOME are; others are not. When we get back to older historical records, they are most often just that: records, official, never made public, internal documents, private correspondence, and so forth. Gervase of Canterbury's description of a dramatic Lunar impact event witnessed on the evening of June 18, 1178, was recorded in the "day book" of the monastery and not discovered for many centuries; it was not sent immediately to cable TV. [Currently that event is on the debunking calendar: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news118.html but the debunker's arguments are themselves bunk, well, that's not the topic here.] But, in Mark's wonderful collection of newspaper accounts of real meteorites that actually fell, one will find lots of bizarre "details" that sound "fake." So, if REAL falls produce partially unbelievable accounts, why should a reasonably sober account be dismissed out of hand? Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more Michael Blood asked: "However, I was wondering what the NAME of this meteorite is "Zvezvan" is not listed in Meteorites A to Z." Because newspaper reports are not always correct. I wouldn't add any of these to your list either Michael. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/meteorwrongsMT.html Clear Skies, Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
