Re: [meteorite-list] enough already!
--On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --The consequences would only mean more spam. Corollary spam if you like. By that rule we are all entitled to a dozen --retaliatory spams rebutting Steve in the next eleven days. 10 more for me since I've already used 2. Dean made a good point. No, No, No! The offense is too many ads. After your have criticized that once why would you want to do the same 11 times? --Just complain to Art. Yes Yes Yes! (and/or directly to the offender) Mike Fowler Perhaps to keep the list from being overwhelmed with negative vibes we should have a corrollary (sp?) rule: Only criticize the same offense once. Or better yet, keep the criticism off list. Mike Fowler Chicago Being spammed with anti spamming is not progress! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already!
The consequences would only be more spam. Corollary spam if you like. By that rule we are all entitled to a dozen retaliatory spams rebutting Steve in the next eleven days. 10 more for me since I've already used 2. Dean made a good point. Just complain to Art. Bill Being spammed with anti spamming spam isn't progess either. > Perhaps to keep the list from being overwhelmed with negative vibes we should > have a corrollary (sp?) rule: > > Only criticize the same offense once. > > Or better yet, keep the criticism off list. > > Mike Fowler > Chicago > > Being spammed with anti spamming is not progress! > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
I have to say that I am finding this "sucking up" to art and talking about "respect for him" and such is very amusing. By publicly spamming the list with complaints rather than complain to art in private I am suspicious that certain individuals are trying to make themselves look "holy" rather than trying to solve an actual problem. This is especially amusing given that last year before the one a week "Big steve and matteo" rule came into effect art publicly said that he didnt care and only put the rule in place after more complaint emails were received than Steve and matteo sent in the first place. That being said there comes a point where enough sale postings is enough. After all, do one really need to advertise ebay auctions 5 times a week to the same people (And Steve, think about it, you are offering the same rocks twice a day - are you really getting enough sales on each new posting to make it worthwhile - and at the same time compensate for the ill will you are generating and lost sales because of that). Before this new "Big Steve and Matteo" rule came into effect things went nicely. People who regularly sent a lot of sale postings (A group that includes myself, farmer, the hupes, cottingham, blood, bob and others as well as people who post less regularly) did send regular sale postings and while certain people didnt like it (Steve shooner comes to mind) nobody was really upset at the number of sale postings. It was only after Steve and matteo went a bit (OK, more than a bit) overboard that people started complaining. This whole thing is an isolated problem. However, the one a week rule (Assuming one religiously followed it) causes new problems that affects not only dealers but other list members. Everybody (Except Steve and Matteo) made postings that were spread out and not overly irritating and was often done to announce new offerings. For example, me and other dealers who get moroccan stuff would make more postings after trips, Blood makes more marketing postings before Tucson about his auctions ect but then you rarely hear from him. Even matteo announced a new martian a couple times. These sale postings are more than sale postings (Sometimes) and many list members are interested in these new announcements even if they are not nterested in buying. For example if some dealer announces a new lunar or achondrite having a sale with the announcement makes sense. And if somebody reading the announcement and looks at the new pictures of a new meteorite (And many dealers make stunning photos of their meteorites which interests a lot of people) it would be considered normal in almost any industry to have to sit through an ad to learn about it. You have to sit through an ad to watch a video on cnn.com or on TV for example. Is it really fair for example to limit blood to one ad a week before a major meteorite event in february (when he needs a dozen postings as he asks for submissions, updates to the sale, logistics on how to submit auctions or find the venue ect) when you rarely hear from him (With sale postings) the rest of the year? Before I left Canada I had a lot of postings as I was liquidating stuff (Including once a "Third day in a row" sale which ironically drew complaints of spamming from matteo) and dealers coming from morocco or after tucson, munich or ensisheim advertsiing new things that they acquired. Many list members are interested in these postings. And many are also interested in new ebay listings. The delete button is very useful and deleting an extra 4 pieces of spam a day when you usually get dozens is not such a big hassle. But the new "One a week Big Steve and Matteo rule" is making this more difficult if everyone if religiously followed and reduces the overall value of the list. Matteo said earlier today that he "Prefers 2 a week". I am sure nobody would complain if it was indeed "2 a week". He probably does that now anyway and nobody complains or even notices. I would also expect more sale postings made around the time of the big shows. Of course this is Arts list and he can make whatever rules he wants but the new rule was made due to lots of complaints about big steve and matteos dozens of postings and more than the dealers making the postings are suffering. Art has pretty much ignored this violation and unless somebody groosely violates it (Like steve this week) I doubt Art cares to much. But if one wants to complain complain to art - not to the other 600 members who dont have the power to change anything anyway - postings that has alraedy generated more hard feeings than steves postings ever did. What do you expect to acompolish by complaining to the other 600 list members anyway? I suspect that one is trying to make themselves look "holy" as complaining to Art would be the actual intelligent thing to do. Obviously a group discussion might be useful to but not to the extend of the bloodletting that has been going on. But this is an isolated problem and involves two indivi
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
on 3/12/06 8:22 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen > for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... > Matteo -- You can be "For" whatever you like, Mateo. However, this is Art's list, not yours. He makes the rules. Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... Matteo --- Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > No offense Steve or anybody else, > > I just quoted a rule that Art made to prevent the > List from becoming a > "Spamfest". If everybody who sales meteorites > posted three to six times a > week which has been happening lately with a few > people then the List would > become overwhelmed. Art wisely made the rule, one > Ad posting per week. Some > people must feel they are better than everyone else > and have the right to > post as many advertisements as they want. I > personally find it distasteful > and offensive that Art's rules are not being > followed. Thanks to Art, > everybody has a place where they can share their > thoughts and discuss ideas. > Abuse this privilege and all we will have at our > disposal is a Spamfest. > > Take care and show some courtesy, > > Adam > > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
"Hello, I am Elton, I am a meteorohaulic" Dear Elton, List; I am Dave, a stromatolite and meteorohaulic... Do you think Steve will sell the camera? Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote: "I seem to remember last year at this time,the jump all over steve arnold parade was hitting high pitch fever. Well it seems it is starting again." If it is attacking you the same time every year post Tucson when our regular bills are coming due in March Yes I think I have it--the incubation peroid is about 4-6 weeks. I think I know what you have Steve. I was once possessed of this disorder myself. It is also known as meteorite-obssesius with comorbid blow-the-budget-to-hellitus. This disease mainly affects visitors to Tucson and the CDC is contemplating naming it Tucson Destitution Disorder. Small outbreaks are reported in Munich and Eneshisem(sp)annually as well. These are thought related to a simular viral disorder :Can't-believe-I-lost-the-rent-money syndrome of Las Vegas. Steve aslo admitted: "All because I send out to many posts." Admiting that you are helpless to control this which you know is excessive is the first step to recovery in 12 step programs. I am optimistic for your recovery. Hello, I am Elton, I am a meteorohaulic __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
Huh, what's that? More meteorite specimens, Geeze! Let it go? Let it die and just go! DF Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote: I seem to remember last year at this time,the jump all over steve arnold parade was hitting high pitch fever.Well it seems it is starting again.All because I send out to many posts.This has gotten beat to death.I do not like it,but I have gotten used to it.Life is is just way to short to let this get me down.Anyway I relisted 2 specimens that someone backed out of wanting them.They are the 60 gram endcut of NWA 2690 howardite and the 50 gram individual o NWA 1929.Lets please stop the bashing.And bill k.,we do not need you start the old process.Just let it go. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote: "I seem to remember last year at this time,the jump all over steve arnold parade was hitting high pitch fever. Well it seems it is starting again." If it is attacking you the same time every year post Tucson when our regular bills are coming due in March Yes I think I have it--the incubation peroid is about 4-6 weeks. I think I know what you have Steve. I was once possessed of this disorder myself. It is also known as meteorite-obssesius with comorbid blow-the-budget-to-hellitus. This disease mainly affects visitors to Tucson and the CDC is contemplating naming it Tucson Destitution Disorder. Small outbreaks are reported in Munich and Eneshisem(sp)annually as well. These are thought related to a simular viral disorder :Can't-believe-I-lost-the-rent-money syndrome of Las Vegas. Steve aslo admitted: "All because I send out to many posts." Admiting that you are helpless to control this which you know is excessive is the first step to recovery in 12 step programs. I am optimistic for your recovery. Hello, I am Elton, I am a meteorohaulic __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] enough already
Steve. I am sure there is a "silent majority" like me that enjoy reading your forsale posts. Keep up the good work and don't let the bashers get you down. Mark From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] enough already Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:53:14 -0800 (PST) I seem to remember last year at this time,the jump all over steve arnold parade was hitting high pitch fever.Well it seems it is starting again.All because I send out to many posts.This has gotten beat to death.I do not like it,but I have gotten used to it.Life is is just way to short to let this get me down.Anyway I relisted 2 specimens that someone backed out of wanting them.They are the 60 gram endcut of NWA 2690 howardite and the 50 gram individual o NWA 1929.Lets please stop the bashing.And bill k.,we do not need you start the old process.Just let it go. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
No offense Steve or anybody else, I just quoted a rule that Art made to prevent the List from becoming a "Spamfest". If everybody who sales meteorites posted three to six times a week which has been happening lately with a few people then the List would become overwhelmed. Art wisely made the rule, one Ad posting per week. Some people must feel they are better than everyone else and have the right to post as many advertisements as they want. I personally find it distasteful and offensive that Art's rules are not being followed. Thanks to Art, everybody has a place where they can share their thoughts and discuss ideas. Abuse this privilege and all we will have at our disposal is a Spamfest. Take care and show some courtesy, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
