Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Hupe
Yes, it is scary that this guy has access to a very expensive R.O.V.

I had an old man who was terminally ill send me some metal pieces that he 
claimed came from a troubled donut-shaped flying saucer that ejected molten 
metal over Vashion Island and on a fishing vessel in Washington State.  He 
claims the only casualties were a dog that was on the boat and the boat itself. 
 
This occurred  a week before the Roswell incident.  It is funny that the UFO 
Hunters show devoted an entire episode to this alleged incident and could not 
find the old man or any metal. Supposed a plane transporting some of this 
material caught on fire and crashed.  I do not normally watch this kind of show 
but heard they were covering an incident that was only a few miles from where I 
used to live.

Why is it that they never seem to come up with any hard evidence and yet can do 
dozens a episodes?

The metal looked like melted aluminum blobs to me.  I still have them somewhere 
but forgot where I put them when I moved.  No scientist was interested in 
analyzing them and I was embarrassed to even bring it up but I promised the old 
man I would look at them.  This is when my curiosity got the best of me.


Best Regards,

Adam
 





- Original Message 
From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 11:36:03 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies

Only need to watch the first 2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUZpzoO9XYfeature=related

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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

This is a long-evolved and complicated piece of the UFO
folklore. You appear to be referring to Vashon Island
(not Vashion), now referred to as the Maury Island
incident:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Island_incident

You will note reports of rock-like slag being dropped
and thin sheets of white metal, not metallic blobs.
Your old man wasn't Harold A. Dahl, was he?


Sterling K. Webb
---
- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com

To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies



Yes, it is scary that this guy has access to a very expensive R.O.V.

I had an old man who was terminally ill send me some metal pieces that 
he
claimed came from a troubled donut-shaped flying saucer that ejected 
molten
metal over Vashion Island and on a fishing vessel in Washington State. 
He
claims the only casualties were a dog that was on the boat and the 
boat itself.
This occurred  a week before the Roswell incident.  It is funny that 
the UFO
Hunters show devoted an entire episode to this alleged incident and 
could not
find the old man or any metal. Supposed a plane transporting some of 
this
material caught on fire and crashed.  I do not normally watch this 
kind of show
but heard they were covering an incident that was only a few miles 
from where I

used to live.

Why is it that they never seem to come up with any hard evidence and 
yet can do

dozens a episodes?

The metal looked like melted aluminum blobs to me.  I still have them 
somewhere
but forgot where I put them when I moved.  No scientist was interested 
in
analyzing them and I was embarrassed to even bring it up but I 
promised the old
man I would look at them.  This is when my curiosity got the best of 
me.



Best Regards,

Adam






- Original Message 
From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 11:36:03 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies

Only need to watch the first 2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUZpzoO9XYfeature=related

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Adam and List,

Just for kicks and giggles, you should have those blobs analyzed, to
put the story to rest once and for all.  99.9% probability the story
and blobs will be debunked.  And if they turn out to be something
weird and anomalous, then you have some free publicity on your hands.

Heck, you should open a museum of crazy specimens and meteorwrongs.
The centerpiece could be the CM1 toliet plunger.  LOL

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 9/19/10, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi,

 This is a long-evolved and complicated piece of the UFO
 folklore. You appear to be referring to Vashon Island
 (not Vashion), now referred to as the Maury Island
 incident:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Island_incident

 You will note reports of rock-like slag being dropped
 and thin sheets of white metal, not metallic blobs.
 Your old man wasn't Harold A. Dahl, was he?


 Sterling K. Webb
 ---
 - Original Message -
 From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies


 Yes, it is scary that this guy has access to a very expensive R.O.V.

 I had an old man who was terminally ill send me some metal pieces that
 he
 claimed came from a troubled donut-shaped flying saucer that ejected
 molten
 metal over Vashion Island and on a fishing vessel in Washington State.
 He
 claims the only casualties were a dog that was on the boat and the
 boat itself.
 This occurred  a week before the Roswell incident.  It is funny that
 the UFO
 Hunters show devoted an entire episode to this alleged incident and
 could not
 find the old man or any metal. Supposed a plane transporting some of
 this
 material caught on fire and crashed.  I do not normally watch this
 kind of show
 but heard they were covering an incident that was only a few miles
 from where I
 used to live.

 Why is it that they never seem to come up with any hard evidence and
 yet can do
 dozens a episodes?

 The metal looked like melted aluminum blobs to me.  I still have them
 somewhere
 but forgot where I put them when I moved.  No scientist was interested
 in
 analyzing them and I was embarrassed to even bring it up but I
 promised the old
 man I would look at them.  This is when my curiosity got the best of
 me.


 Best Regards,

 Adam






 - Original Message 
 From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 11:36:03 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies

 Only need to watch the first 2 minutes
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUZpzoO9XYfeature=related

 Rob Wesel
 www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
 www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
 www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Sterling,

You are right, it is spelled Vashon.  Maury island is actually attached to 
Vashon Island and is more of a peninsula than a real island.  It is a ten 
minute 
ferry ride from where I used to live on the Puget Sound across from Point 
Defiance.  I do not recall the old man's name but Harold does ring a bell, 
maybe 
from the mail I received or from hearing it on the show.  I will look for the 
envelope and metal pieces next time I go through my collection. 


My point is that these crazies really believe what they are telling everybody 
or 
simply want 15 minutes of fame or both.  I took a scientist friend's advice, 
Do 
not encourage them.


Best Regards,

Adam
  



- Original Message 
From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 1:14:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

Hi,

This is a long-evolved and complicated piece of the UFO
folklore. You appear to be referring to Vashon Island
(not Vashion), now referred to as the Maury Island
incident:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Island_incident

You will note reports of rock-like slag being dropped
and thin sheets of white metal, not metallic blobs.
Your old man wasn't Harold A. Dahl, was he?


Sterling K. Webb
---
- Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies


 Yes, it is scary that this guy has access to a very expensive R.O.V.
 
 I had an old man who was terminally ill send me some metal pieces that he
 claimed came from a troubled donut-shaped flying saucer that ejected molten
 metal over Vashion Island and on a fishing vessel in Washington State. He
 claims the only casualties were a dog that was on the boat and the boat 
itself.
 This occurred  a week before the Roswell incident.  It is funny that the UFO
 Hunters show devoted an entire episode to this alleged incident and could not
 find the old man or any metal. Supposed a plane transporting some of this
 material caught on fire and crashed.  I do not normally watch this kind of 
show
 but heard they were covering an incident that was only a few miles from where 
I
 used to live.
 
 Why is it that they never seem to come up with any hard evidence and yet can 
do
 dozens a episodes?
 
 The metal looked like melted aluminum blobs to me.  I still have them 
somewhere
 but forgot where I put them when I moved.  No scientist was interested in
 analyzing them and I was embarrassed to even bring it up but I promised the 
old
 man I would look at them.  This is when my curiosity got the best of me.
 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 11:36:03 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies
 
 Only need to watch the first 2 minutes
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUZpzoO9XYfeature=related
 
 Rob Wesel
 www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
 www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
 www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Greg Hupe
Guess I won't be buying that waterfront property on the Gulf now that it is 
infested by the bugs oozing from the perforations on the alien 'meteorite'!

Stupid BeePee!!

Greg


- Original Message - 
From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies



Only need to watch the first 2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUZpzoO9XYfeature=related

Rob Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Richard Kowalski
Looks like eroded Methane Hydrate to me.

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IMCA #1081


--- On Sun, 9/19/10, Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 11:36 AM
 Only need to watch the first 2
 minutes
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUZpzoO9XYfeature=related
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Hupe
It looks like the UFO Conference has moved to Phoenix, Arizona from Laughlin, 
Nevada.  I will miss all of the saucer enthusiasts getting sauced at the Loser 
Lounge and the Aquarius Casino.  Although I would never attend any of the 
seminars, it is beyond entertaining listening to all of the abduction stories 
and sightings while they are in town at the local bars.

I heave heard heated arguments ranging from how to best protect their daughters 
from aliens, the art of bringing a flying disk down with nothing but a shovel 
and where did the six million dollar man's bionics really come from?  


Here is the link if you live in the Phoenix area and want some cheap 
entertainment:
http://ufocongress.com/

Best Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies - Was Meteorite testing locations - Was meteorite millionaire

2010-09-13 Thread bill kies

I used to invite people to my home so we could examine and discuss their finds. 
Bad idea. After several experiences with disgruntled meteorite owners I had 
to give that up. Some people get downright mean when you tell them the bad 
news. I've never seen anything like it in 40 years of buying and selling just 
about everything else on earth. 
 
By the time I wised up, quite a few crazies knew where I live. People have 
shown up as late as 2 in the morning knocking on my door. I've found rocks in 
my mailbox, rocks on my porch, rocks on my truck and even had the windshields 
of several of my vehicles smashed with of course, large rocks. The windshields 
could have been random vandalism I guess.
 
So, I started meeting people at the public library or if they were particularly 
paranoid about losing their priceless windfalls I'd meet them at the police 
station! Keep in mind that it was worthwhile or at least seemed so to me at the 
time, since I bought over a dozen specimens this way. I've seen even more that 
were priced beyond reason.
 
The one that stands out was a woman in her mid 50's that I met while looking at 
some rocks in a local restaurant. She was a cook there. The waitress heard the 
conversation at my table and told me about the cook who she said had some 
meteorites. She introduced me to the cook who was a very pleasant, articulate 
person. I invited her to bring her meteorites and a variety of other 
collectibles to my house. She said there was too much to take to the library. I 
thought she meant, too many antiques and collectibles, lol.
 
The next day, the calm well spoken person I met at the diner was phrenetically 
unloading bushel baskets full of rocks and all sorts of debris. Every rock on 
her property was a meteorite that she witnessed falling to the ground. 
Everything else was a tektite. Pieces of plastic tubing were tektites, old 
molten bottle glass, must have been an old dump on the property, were tektites, 
like the desert glass she said. She had a half melted rubber tire from an old 
toy tractor that she knew was a flanged button. 
 
I tried my best but there was no authority on earth that could convince her 
that anything she said was incorrect. At last, as I helped her load her car, 
she cursed God for giving her this ability to see meteorites fall every night, 
since no one would believe her. She said that some day we would all learn the 
truth and she would be vindicated. Poor thing.
 
Bill
 



 From: nakhla...@comcast.net
 To: mar...@meteoryt.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:39:53 -0700
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Crazies - Was Meteorite testing locations - Was 
 meteorite millionaire

 A couple of my all time favorite I have a meteorite emails


 Dear sir
 I know the stone which have any properties :
 The first :Large Size : 22 kg
 The second : 2,7 kg ( like as the finger )
 When i put it in the Iron tank (have water, only Iron ,not aluminium or
 copper) ).This stone wouldn't sink,it hang near botton.
 When i put it near the mirror,the mirror will be cracked.
 When i put it near the match so that the match will be deactive.
 When i put it near the Neon light,the neon will be off.For the long time,the
 insulated wire will be burn
 When i put the Ring near it,the yellow colour will be change white colour.
 When i hold it,I'm dead tired some days.
 Can you tell me What are they ?
 Thank a lot .
 Best regard


 My friend got a piece of metorite. if i place a mirror near it, the
 mirror will shatter evenly. if i place a candle near it, the candle
 cant relite. if i place a pcs of mercury (lighter) that lighter will not
 work.. i would like to know what ty of metorite is that? and how much
 will it worth? it's weight appx 3.75 kilo. Oh! also if i make a sharp
 scratch on the stone it will automatic closed and seal back to the
 original color. my friend also told me that this pcs can sell to NASA
 cuz NASA will use it. NASA will use it to make the pointing part on the
 shuttle that shoot to the sky. i dont know if it's true but hoping
 someone out there can let me know a little bit about it..

 thanks

 hi,i got the reply about the picture .i tried
 photographing it and it came out blank. the stone is 6
 kg and 6 months old since it was discovered. the
 characteristics are:very highly radioactive,when put
 near a car,the car would not start.emits very bright
 light.when place on soil,it digs itself in.it moves
 slowly from sunlight into a shade.if touch with bear
 hands it sends electric shocks.

 And then there's the voicemail I have kept on my phone for almost 3 years
 now. Many have heard it, if not then ask next time you see me.

 P.S. anyone know of any free software to convert a voice message to MP3?

 Rob Wesel
 www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
 www.facebook.com/nakhladog
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 We are the music makers...
 and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
 Willy Wonka, 1971


 

Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies on eBay

2010-09-13 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

It is interesting to note that 50% of the the top ten meteorites in price 
listed 
on eBay are not meteorites at all. It is a shame that these bogus offerings 
interfere with genuine pieces. It is obvious that they self appraised these 
pieces after listening to overinflated and unrealistic values given by the 
media.  They think meteorites are lying around like an Easter egg hunt. After 
watching too much TV and barely hiking around the block,  they feel that 
meteorites are everywhere, ready to be picked anytime and any place.  Any pile 
of rocks is now seen as a strewn field, ready to plucked and profited from.  It 
like snagging a sucker out of a babies mouth.  All of sudden, they are experts 
and don't need laboratory confirmation.  There is no way that any of these 
sellers would ruin their multimillion dollar dreams by following proper 
protocol 
that is available to anyone with a google search engine and who can read.

The only confirmed piece to show up after all of the recent press was qualified 
by UCLA before the IMCA was even contacted. And then, the finder only contacted 
the IMCA to locate the best place to cut it.  The fortunate individual did his 
homework online before contacting anyone. I guess a 1 in 10,000 ratio makes the 
process worth while for some.  I would rather put my money into a slot machine 
(One Armed Bandit) and pull the handle.  The odds are much greater of actually 
winning something substantial than a real meteorite showing up.

I am not pleased with all of the false offerings allowed on eBay.  This is why 
many dealers do not bother with it anymore.  Who wants to compete in a sea of 
fakes?  With over 4,500 meteorite listings, first class material barely stands 
out and is why most sellers are protecting themselves with fixed prices.  
First, 
it was the China Syndrome of iron ore.  Now it is the Who wants to be the next 
millionaire clan as seen on TV?

Its feels like I have been bounced around like a baby with a nasty diaper, 
taking a lot of the enjoyment out of selling on eBay.

Sorry, just needed to vent after being contacted yet again by another crazy.  
It 
seems to be almost a daily occurrence and a complete waste of time.  This is 
what happens when you sell on eBay.  Instead of inquiring about the genuine 
meteorites I have for sale, these extremely rude people use eBay to ask about a 
meteorite wrong they have found.  


  
Best Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies - Was Meteorite testing locations - Was meteorite millionaire

2010-09-12 Thread Meteorites USA
Hey Rob,  If you can access the voicemail online through your cell 
providers website, they might have an option to download an MP3...?


If all else fails you can simply put it on speaker and record it through 
a computer microphone. Some webcams have microphones. I know not ideal 
but easy.


Maybe email it to yourself?

Eric


On 9/12/2010 5:39 PM, Rob Wesel wrote:

A couple of my all time favorite I have a meteorite emails


Dear sir
I know the stone which have any properties :
The first :Large Size : 22 kg
The second : 2,7 kg ( like  as the finger )
When i put it in the Iron tank (have water, only Iron ,not aluminium or
copper) ).This stone wouldn't sink,it hang near botton.
When i put it near the mirror,the mirror will be cracked.
When i put it near the match so that the match will be deactive.
When i put it near the Neon light,the neon will be off.For the long time,the
insulated wire will be burn
When i put the Ring near it,the yellow colour will be change white colour.
When i hold it,I'm dead tired some days.
Can you tell me What are they ?
Thank a lot .
Best regard


My friend got a piece of metorite.  if i place a mirror near it, the
mirror will shatter evenly.  if i place a candle near it, the candle
cant relite. if i place a pcs of mercury (lighter) that lighter will not
work.. i would like to know what ty of metorite is that? and how much
will it worth? it's weight appx 3.75 kilo. Oh! also if i make a sharp
scratch on the stone it will automatic closed and seal back to the
original color.  my friend also told me that this pcs can sell to NASA
cuz NASA will use it. NASA will use it to make the pointing part on the
shuttle that shoot to the sky.  i dont know if it's true but hoping
someone out there can let me know a little bit about it..

thanks

hi,i got the reply about the picture .i tried
photographing it and it came out blank. the stone is 6
kg and 6 months old since it was discovered. the
characteristics are:very highly radioactive,when put
near a car,the car would not start.emits very bright
light.when place on soil,it digs itself in.it moves
slowly from sunlight into a shade.if touch with bear
hands it sends electric shocks.

And then there's the voicemail I have kept on my phone for almost 3 years
now. Many have heard it, if not then ask next time you see me.

P.S. anyone know of any free software to convert a voice message to MP3?

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971


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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-12 Thread Adam Hupe
My personal favorite is the multimillion dollar blown out toilet plunger 
meteorite wrong.  Actually, I have no idea what it was.  The toilet plunger 
guess came from this list.  A member surmised that maybe the 120 plus degree 
temperatures out here may have melted it the unrecognizable shape it is in now.

Here is the link to the controversial piece that was sent to me and caused a 
lot 
of grief: 

http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg

The proud owner would not take no for an answer.


Best Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies

2010-09-12 Thread Meteorites USA

Alien poop...?

Eric


On 9/12/2010 6:15 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:

My personal favorite is the multimillion dollar blown out toilet plunger
meteorite wrong.  Actually, I have no idea what it was.  The toilet plunger
guess came from this list.  A member surmised that maybe the 120 plus degree
temperatures out here may have melted it the unrecognizable shape it is in now.

Here is the link to the controversial piece that was sent to me and caused a lot
of grief:

http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg

The proud owner would not take no for an answer.


Best Regards,

Adam
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