Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites
Thanks Sterling, You said it far more succinctly than I ever could have, that Steve's gibberish makes no sense. Mike Fowler Chicago > > D equals1/t > > > where d is the size of the universe > > > ant t is all time. > > > As "t" goes to infinity, "D" goes to zero. > Either the Universe is extraordinarily small > or time is extraordinarily short-lived. > > I would write more but both space and time are > running out, and the boundary of the Universe > is shrinking toward me at many times the speed > of light, so I don't have --- > > > Sterling K. Webb > - > - Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Dunklee" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites > > > were dopplar shift.rotation of the universe and time dilation from black > holes included in the studies you refrer to? And just how fast is the > universe rotating? All of these variables create infinite combinations. > I once heard how the string theory didnt explain how small particles > bounced around while large ones floated smoothly by. Catching some sun > on the beach at Galveston I observed large freightors floating smoothly > by while small beach balls bounced up and down in the waves. The whole > universe is made of fractyls. Its all waves. D equals1/t where d is the > size of the universe ant t is all time. Cheers! Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites
D equals1/t where d is the size of the universe ant t is all time. As "t" goes to infinity, "D" goes to zero. Either the Universe is extraordinarily small or time is extraordinarily short-lived. I would write more but both space and time are running out, and the boundary of the Universe is shrinking toward me at many times the speed of light, so I don't have --- Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "Steve Dunklee" To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites were dopplar shift.rotation of the universe and time dilation from black holes included in the studies you refrer to? And just how fast is the universe rotating? All of these variables create infinite combinations. I once heard how the string theory didnt explain how small particles bounced around while large ones floated smoothly by. Catching some sun on the beach at Galveston I observed large freightors floating smoothly by while small beach balls bounced up and down in the waves. The whole universe is made of fractyls. Its all waves. D equals1/t where d is the size of the universe ant t is all time. Cheers! Steve On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 2:54 PM EDT Richard Kowalski wrote: Hi Steve. Not quite sure where you are getting your age information from, as all except the statement of the biblical calculation is incorrect. The age of the universe and so the age of Hydrogen, is pretty well pinned down. It is known that the universe is approximately 13,750,000,000 years old, plus or minus 170,000,000 years. Expect that 170 million year uncertainty to continue to become smaller in the coming years. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Steve Dunklee wrote: From: Steve Dunklee Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites To: carloselgua...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:43 AM there has been reported some new methods of figuring out the age of meteorites which is supposed to be more accurate. Bible enthusiests believe the universe is only 6k years old. Dna combinations and statistics on actual rates of change would put life at 430 billion years old. Half lives of isotopes might be an intriguing method to guess at the age of material but our own experiments with nuclear fusion and fission would tend to hint that material closer to the sun excited by radiation which may be 20 or more billion years old would test by the radiation methods as being younger than newer material that spent its life way out past pluto. Since the big bang there are at least 12 vectors necessary to determine the cosmogenic age of any particle if we exclude Einstiens equations on time . Adding time as a variable instead of a constant creates an infinite possibility of half lives and universes. I have an hydrogen atom. How old is it? The world may never know! On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 8:09 AM EDT Carl 's wrote: > >Hi Jeff, > >Amazing photo! The solid grey area is from the Tamdakht that completely melted? Nice! > >Carl2 > > > >Jeff wrote: >>That's a great Gao specimen Gary. Here's an example of amazing Tamdakht 'hitch-hikers'! >http://www.meteorites.com.au/collection/Tamdakht%20H5%205.012g%20(1%20of%205)-2500.jpg >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites
were dopplar shift.rotation of the universe and time dilation from black holes included in the studies you refrer to? And just how fast is the universe rotating? All of these variables create infinite combinations. I once heard how the string theory didnt explain how small particles bounced around while large ones floated smoothly by. Catching some sun on the beach at Galveston I observed large freightors floating smoothly by while small beach balls bounced up and down in the waves. The whole universe is made of fractyls. Its all waves. D equals1/t where d is the size of the universe ant t is all time. Cheers! Steve On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 2:54 PM EDT Richard Kowalski wrote: >Hi Steve. > >Not quite sure where you are getting your age information from, as all except >the statement of the biblical calculation is incorrect. The age of the >universe and so the age of Hydrogen, is pretty well pinned down. > >It is known that the universe is approximately 13,750,000,000 years old, plus >or minus 170,000,000 years. Expect that 170 million year uncertainty to >continue to become smaller in the coming years. > > >-- >Richard Kowalski >Full Moon Photography >IMCA #1081 > > >--- On Tue, 7/27/10, Steve Dunklee wrote: > >> From: Steve Dunklee >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites >> To: carloselgua...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:43 AM >> there has been reported some new >> methods of figuring out the age of meteorites which is >> supposed to be more accurate. Bible enthusiests believe the >> universe is only 6k years old. Dna combinations and >> statistics on actual rates of change would put life at 430 >> billion years old. Half lives of isotopes might be an >> intriguing method to guess at the age of material but our >> own experiments with nuclear fusion and fission would tend >> to hint that material closer to the sun excited by >> radiation which may be 20 or more billion years >> old would test by the radiation methods as being younger >> than newer material that spent its life way out past pluto. >> Since the big bang there are at least 12 vectors necessary >> to determine the cosmogenic age of any particle if we >> exclude Einstiens equations on time . Adding time as a >> variable instead of a constant creates an infinite >> possibility of half lives and universes. I have an hydrogen >> atom. How old is it? The world may never >> know! >> >> On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 8:09 AM EDT Carl 's wrote: >> >> > >> >Hi Jeff, >> > >> >Amazing photo! The solid grey area is from the Tamdakht >> that completely melted? Nice! >> > >> >Carl2 >> > >> > >> > >> >Jeff wrote: >> >>That's a great Gao specimen Gary. Here's an example >> of amazing Tamdakht 'hitch-hikers'! >> >http://www.meteorites.com.au/collection/Tamdakht%20H5%205.012g%20(1%20of%205)-2500.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >__ >> >Visit the Archives at >> >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> >Meteorite-list mailing list >> >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites
Hi Steve. Not quite sure where you are getting your age information from, as all except the statement of the biblical calculation is incorrect. The age of the universe and so the age of Hydrogen, is pretty well pinned down. It is known that the universe is approximately 13,750,000,000 years old, plus or minus 170,000,000 years. Expect that 170 million year uncertainty to continue to become smaller in the coming years. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Steve Dunklee wrote: > From: Steve Dunklee > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites > To: carloselgua...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:43 AM > there has been reported some new > methods of figuring out the age of meteorites which is > supposed to be more accurate. Bible enthusiests believe the > universe is only 6k years old. Dna combinations and > statistics on actual rates of change would put life at 430 > billion years old. Half lives of isotopes might be an > intriguing method to guess at the age of material but our > own experiments with nuclear fusion and fission would tend > to hint that material closer to the sun excited by > radiation which may be 20 or more billion years > old would test by the radiation methods as being younger > than newer material that spent its life way out past pluto. > Since the big bang there are at least 12 vectors necessary > to determine the cosmogenic age of any particle if we > exclude Einstiens equations on time . Adding time as a > variable instead of a constant creates an infinite > possibility of half lives and universes. I have an hydrogen > atom. How old is it? The world may never > know! > > On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 8:09 AM EDT Carl 's wrote: > > > > >Hi Jeff, > > > >Amazing photo! The solid grey area is from the Tamdakht > that completely melted? Nice! > > > >Carl2 > > > > > > > >Jeff wrote: > >>That's a great Gao specimen Gary. Here's an example > of amazing Tamdakht 'hitch-hikers'! > >http://www.meteorites.com.au/collection/Tamdakht%20H5%205.012g%20(1%20of%205)-2500.jpg > > > > > >__ > >Visit the Archives at > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dating the age of meteorites
there has been reported some new methods of figuring out the age of meteorites which is supposed to be more accurate. Bible enthusiests believe the universe is only 6k years old. Dna combinations and statistics on actual rates of change would put life at 430 billion years old. Half lives of isotopes might be an intriguing method to guess at the age of material but our own experiments with nuclear fusion and fission would tend to hint that material closer to the sun excited by radiation which may be 20 or more billion years old would test by the radiation methods as being younger than newer material that spent its life way out past pluto. Since the big bang there are at least 12 vectors necessary to determine the cosmogenic age of any particle if we exclude Einstiens equations on time . Adding time as a variable instead of a constant creates an infinite possibility of half lives and universes. I have an hydrogen atom. How old is it? The world may never know! On Tue Jul 27th, 2010 8:09 AM EDT Carl 's wrote: > >Hi Jeff, > >Amazing photo! The solid grey area is from the Tamdakht that completely >melted? Nice! > >Carl2 > > > >Jeff wrote: >>That's a great Gao specimen Gary. Here's an example of amazing Tamdakht >>'hitch-hikers'! >http://www.meteorites.com.au/collection/Tamdakht%20H5%205.012g%20(1%20of%205)-2500.jpg > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list