Re: [meteorite-list] Discovered! The Meteorite-List - February, 1998
And, January 1998 is the month the University of Arizona made the press release about a certain retired U of A civil engineering professor from Oro Valley, Arizona who had inadvertently discovered a new meteorite field called Gold Basin. It stated that Professor Jim Kreigh and John Blennert and Twink Monrad had been involved in the mapping of the field for two years prior to the press release. All of a sudden we three had scores of new friends and I think I can state for John and myself that we still cherish our new friends that we met at Tucson Gem and Mineral Show February 1998. I wish we could repeat all of the hunting trips joined in by many of our new friends. Twink -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kichinka Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Discovered! The Meteorite-List - February,1998 Team Meteorite: The archives for the Meteorite-List don't go back, back, back all the way to the beginning, only to April, 2004. Wouldn't it be great if the rest of these writings were still lurking somewhere in cyberspace, just lost under an avalanche of Facebook deletions, but waiting to be found? What a treasure trove of contemporary meteorite history they would be- the successes, scandals, discoveries and adventures we've collectively experienced and shared, remembering the enemies we've tormented and the friends we've praised. Art Jones opened this venue sixteen years ago. "Our first Meteorite Forum was held just days after the ALH 84001 announcement on August 6, 1996. As I recall, there were only 5 or 6 of us on the first chat which included Paul Harris and Jim Tobin of Meteorite Exchange and current editors of METEORITE TIMES, Rick Kujawa, me and a few others who escape my memory for now." - Michael Blood While doing research this especially rainy, rain forest afternoon - my neighborhood monkeys have donned waterproof Gortex hoodies monogrammed "I 'heart' Costa Rica' while they pose for tourists- I stumbled upon this precious link to our past... http://www7.pair.com/arthur/meteor/archive/archive4/Feb98/temp/threads.html# 00020 It is the entire m-list archive from Feb, 1998. I can't imagine that any subscriber wouldn't find this worth a look - at least for their own comments :>) But for those who need persuasion, let me brief you on the contents to perhaps pique your interest. ** Meteorite List - Month of February, 1998. Phile Bagnall kicks off the month writing about Ron Farrell's latest folly (those list members not familiar with Mr. Farrell can 'google' for a bio). Phil wonders if he too is a member of the vast 'meteorite community conspiracy' Farrell believes is responsible for his prediciment. Frank Stroik (Dept. of Geology & Geophysics, University of Wyoming) was our first and all-time best resident genius/teacher and he discusses CI Chondrites with Martin Horejsi. Others join in making this the longest thread of the month. Great science here! Ron Baalke opined frequently on the list. Here he correctly argues against J.E. Bradenburg's paper claiming Mars as the CI parent body. There's a long thread about Holbrook. Baalke sees no added value in slices of Holbrook v. individuals. Others cite 'cut loss' and the rarity of Holbrook specimens 'big enough to even bother slicing' as factors in legitimately demanding higher per/gram cost for slices. Matt Morgan's 'tip of the day' is to spray Krylon on Gao slices to "create a 3-D effect." Typical of the times, this list existed to help and inform the community and was growing rapidly. Jim Hurley seeks a sponsor for MetSoc membership. John Blennert clicks on 'subscribe' to join the met-list. Darryl Pitt is proud to have yet another Grammy Award winner in his stable of jazz stars and plugs a Randy Brecker CD for $10, calling it 'music to read about meteorites by". He gets gigged for being 'off-topic' and apologizes. (Because Darryl mentions it, I purchase "Into the Sun", an enjoyable basically Brazilian music-scape.) The Ron Farrell alledged theft-of-Angra-dos-Reis thread intensifies when Darryl becomes involuntarily involved with this 'Rio Robbery'. "I received an unwelcomed letter from Ron Farrell's criminal defense lawyer today and it has prompted me to write the following..." Daniel Kagan and Joel Conrado's contribute summary comments. Michael Casper offers a $5,000 reward for a missing $1,900 Page City Iron meteorite that he later discovers to be lost 'only in the book-keeping'. A trickle of one-sies and two-sies of Sikhote-Alin show up for sale as USSR borders start leaking meteorites. In response, MCasper offloads a truckload, instantly flooding the market. Mike Farmer writes from the Tucson show, "I have the pleasure of running tw
Re: [meteorite-list] Discovered! The Meteorite-List - February, 1998
Great adventure, Twink. To be continued! Best as ever, Matthias - Original Message - From: "Larry & Twink Monrad" To: "'Kevin Kichinka'" ; Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Discovered! The Meteorite-List - February, 1998 And, January 1998 is the month the University of Arizona made the press release about a certain retired U of A civil engineering professor from Oro Valley, Arizona who had inadvertently discovered a new meteorite field called Gold Basin. It stated that Professor Jim Kreigh and John Blennert and Twink Monrad had been involved in the mapping of the field for two years prior to the press release. All of a sudden we three had scores of new friends and I think I can state for John and myself that we still cherish our new friends that we met at Tucson Gem and Mineral Show February 1998. I wish we could repeat all of the hunting trips joined in by many of our new friends. Twink -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kichinka Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Discovered! The Meteorite-List - February,1998 Team Meteorite: The archives for the Meteorite-List don't go back, back, back all the way to the beginning, only to April, 2004. Wouldn't it be great if the rest of these writings were still lurking somewhere in cyberspace, just lost under an avalanche of Facebook deletions, but waiting to be found? What a treasure trove of contemporary meteorite history they would be- the successes, scandals, discoveries and adventures we've collectively experienced and shared, remembering the enemies we've tormented and the friends we've praised. Art Jones opened this venue sixteen years ago. "Our first Meteorite Forum was held just days after the ALH 84001 announcement on August 6, 1996. As I recall, there were only 5 or 6 of us on the first chat which included Paul Harris and Jim Tobin of Meteorite Exchange and current editors of METEORITE TIMES, Rick Kujawa, me and a few others who escape my memory for now." - Michael Blood While doing research this especially rainy, rain forest afternoon - my neighborhood monkeys have donned waterproof Gortex hoodies monogrammed "I 'heart' Costa Rica' while they pose for tourists- I stumbled upon this precious link to our past... http://www7.pair.com/arthur/meteor/archive/archive4/Feb98/temp/threads.html# 00020 It is the entire m-list archive from Feb, 1998. I can't imagine that any subscriber wouldn't find this worth a look - at least for their own comments :>) But for those who need persuasion, let me brief you on the contents to perhaps pique your interest. ** Meteorite List - Month of February, 1998. Phile Bagnall kicks off the month writing about Ron Farrell's latest folly (those list members not familiar with Mr. Farrell can 'google' for a bio). Phil wonders if he too is a member of the vast 'meteorite community conspiracy' Farrell believes is responsible for his prediciment. Frank Stroik (Dept. of Geology & Geophysics, University of Wyoming) was our first and all-time best resident genius/teacher and he discusses CI Chondrites with Martin Horejsi. Others join in making this the longest thread of the month. Great science here! Ron Baalke opined frequently on the list. Here he correctly argues against J.E. Bradenburg's paper claiming Mars as the CI parent body. There's a long thread about Holbrook. Baalke sees no added value in slices of Holbrook v. individuals. Others cite 'cut loss' and the rarity of Holbrook specimens 'big enough to even bother slicing' as factors in legitimately demanding higher per/gram cost for slices. Matt Morgan's 'tip of the day' is to spray Krylon on Gao slices to "create a 3-D effect." Typical of the times, this list existed to help and inform the community and was growing rapidly. Jim Hurley seeks a sponsor for MetSoc membership. John Blennert clicks on 'subscribe' to join the met-list. Darryl Pitt is proud to have yet another Grammy Award winner in his stable of jazz stars and plugs a Randy Brecker CD for $10, calling it 'music to read about meteorites by". He gets gigged for being 'off-topic' and apologizes. (Because Darryl mentions it, I purchase "Into the Sun", an enjoyable basically Brazilian music-scape.) The Ron Farrell alledged theft-of-Angra-dos-Reis thread intensifies when Darryl becomes involuntarily involved with this 'Rio Robbery'. "I received an unwelcomed letter from Ron Farrell'
Re: [meteorite-list] Discovered! The Meteorite-List - February, 1998
Hi Kevin and List; I do have most of the archive files from the beginning to 4/2004, I just need to get them back online at some point. Your correct though, lots of interesting posts! Cheers, Art On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Kevin Kichinka wrote: > Team Meteorite: > > The archives for the Meteorite-List don't go back, back, back all the > way to the beginning, only to April, 2004. > > > Wouldn't it be great if the rest of these writings were still lurking > somewhere in cyberspace, just lost under an avalanche of Facebook > deletions, but waiting to be found? > > > What a treasure trove of contemporary meteorite history they would be- > the successes, scandals, discoveries and adventures we've collectively > experienced and shared, remembering the enemies we've tormented and > the friends we've praised. > > > Art Jones opened this venue sixteen years ago. > > > "Our first Meteorite Forum was held just days after the ALH 84001 > announcement on August 6, 1996. As I recall, there were only 5 or 6 of > us on the first chat which included Paul Harris and Jim Tobin of > Meteorite Exchange and current editors of METEORITE TIMES, Rick > Kujawa, me and a few others who escape my memory for now." - Michael > Blood > > > While doing research this especially rainy, rain forest afternoon - my > neighborhood monkeys have donned waterproof Gortex hoodies > monogrammed "I 'heart' Costa Rica' while they pose for tourists- I > stumbled upon this precious link to our past... > > > http://www7.pair.com/arthur/meteor/archive/archive4/Feb98/temp/threads.html#00020 > > > It is the entire m-list archive from Feb, 1998. I can't imagine that > any subscriber wouldn't find this worth a look - at least for their > own comments :>) > > > But for those who need persuasion, let me brief you on the contents to > perhaps pique your interest. > > ** > > Meteorite List - Month of February, 1998. > > > Phile Bagnall kicks off the month writing about Ron Farrell's latest > folly (those list members not familiar with Mr. Farrell can 'google' > for a bio). Phil wonders if he too is a member of the vast 'meteorite > community conspiracy' Farrell believes is responsible for his > prediciment. > > > Frank Stroik (Dept. of Geology & Geophysics, University of Wyoming) > was our first and all-time best resident genius/teacher and he > discusses CI Chondrites with Martin Horejsi. Others join in making > this the longest thread of the month. Great science here! > > > Ron Baalke opined frequently on the list. Here he correctly argues > against J.E. Bradenburg's paper claiming Mars as the CI parent body. > > > There's a long thread about Holbrook. Baalke sees no added value in > slices of Holbrook v. individuals. Others cite 'cut loss' and the > rarity of Holbrook specimens 'big enough to even bother slicing' as > factors in legitimately demanding higher per/gram cost for slices. > > > Matt Morgan's 'tip of the day' is to spray Krylon on Gao slices to > "create a 3-D effect." > > > Typical of the times, this list existed to help and inform the > community and was growing rapidly. Jim Hurley seeks a sponsor for > MetSoc membership. John Blennert clicks on 'subscribe' to join the > met-list. > > > Darryl Pitt is proud to have yet another Grammy Award winner in his > stable of jazz stars and plugs a Randy Brecker CD for $10, calling it > 'music to read about meteorites by". He gets gigged for being > 'off-topic' and apologizes. (Because Darryl mentions it, I purchase > "Into the Sun", an enjoyable basically Brazilian music-scape.) > > > The Ron Farrell alledged theft-of-Angra-dos-Reis thread intensifies > when Darryl becomes involuntarily involved with this 'Rio Robbery'. "I > received an unwelcomed letter from Ron Farrell's criminal defense > lawyer today and it has prompted me to write the following..." Daniel > Kagan and Joel Conrado's contribute summary comments. > > > Michael Casper offers a $5,000 reward for a missing $1,900 Page City > Iron meteorite that he later discovers to be lost 'only in the > book-keeping'. > > > A trickle of one-sies and two-sies of Sikhote-Alin show up for sale as > USSR borders start leaking meteorites. In response, MCasper offloads a > truckload, instantly flooding the market. > > > Mike Farmer writes from the Tucson show, "I have the pleasure of > running two tables of meteorites single handedly for Michael Casper! I > find this to be quite a challenge and a privilege!" Mike graciously > helps Richard Norton with book signings of 'Rocks from Space.' > > > I count six 'sales ads' out of about 240 messages. One of them is > written by some guy calling himself 'MARSROX - Meteorite Dealer'-and > he offers 2.3 grams of DAG 319 Urelite for sale. At this pre-NWA time, > the only Urelites collectors could dream of owning were Goalpura (an > Indian fall from 1868), Kenna (New Mexico)
