Re: [meteorite-list] Double-Blind Experiments Testing Dowsing

2010-10-20 Thread Martin Altmann
Shht Paul, relying in the abilities of animals,

and knowing the Romanian method to avoid underground watercourses - just
drive a pig into your house, wait, where it lays down to sleep - there is
the right place for the bed,
- not to mention their geomantic help to locate truffles 
(a stuff more expensive than ordinary meteorites or irons)

I start to train dowsing helpers:

http://www.agilitysports.ch/images/schwein_gehabt.jpg


Best!
Martin



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Re: [meteorite-list] Double-Blind Experiments Testing Dowsing

2010-10-20 Thread Jason Utas
To nudge the dying horse...
Thank you, Paul, for posting such comprehensive studies.
Perhaps the others who stubbornly insist on believing in pseudoscience
will slowly realize that their claims are based on ignorance, and not
true open-mindedness.  While innovation in both invention and idea
has always relied on the willingness of people to change their
opinions, one should remember that whenever major changes to our way
of thinking about the world have been introduced, they have almost
always encountered opposition from the pseudo-scientific crowd.  I see
this as a continuation of that theme: people holding on to dogma
because they want to.  Which means that you're never going to change
their minds, no matter how complete the evidence against it.
Oddly enough, this came up today!  xkcd's a popular comic with the
more scientifically minded collegiate crowd - **make sure to let your
cursor rest over the image to see the commentary - it can oftentimes
be funnier than the comic itself.

http://xkcd.com/808/

I don't know what the odds were of that, but it sure was a pleasant surprise..
Regards,
Jason


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Martin Altmann
altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote:
 Shht Paul, relying in the abilities of animals,

 and knowing the Romanian method to avoid underground watercourses - just
 drive a pig into your house, wait, where it lays down to sleep - there is
 the right place for the bed,
 - not to mention their geomantic help to locate truffles
 (a stuff more expensive than ordinary meteorites or irons)

 I start to train dowsing helpers:

 http://www.agilitysports.ch/images/schwein_gehabt.jpg


 Best!
 Martin



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Re: [meteorite-list] Double-Blind Experiments Testing Dowsing

2010-10-20 Thread Count Deiro
Too..Too..funny... Thanks, Jason. How true. 

Why in the hell doesn't it ever enter the consciousness of those that believe 
the crap that re-surfaces every ten years or so .. like mattress magnets, 
copper bracelets, voodoo dolls (I have three..they don't work)charm 
stones..levitation..ghosts...mind and palm readers...magic...yeah dowsing and 
anything that happened around Roswell, New Mexico..that if any of this b...sh.. 
had efficacy the world.. and I mean the whole world... of opportunists, 
entrepreneurs, scientists, doctors, institutions, governments and ME.. would be 
all over it like white on a golf ball.

Best to all,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536 


-Original Message-
From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
Sent: Oct 20, 2010 11:54 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Double-Blind Experiments Testing Dowsing

To nudge the dying horse...
Thank you, Paul, for posting such comprehensive studies.
Perhaps the others who stubbornly insist on believing in pseudoscience
will slowly realize that their claims are based on ignorance, and not
true open-mindedness.  While innovation in both invention and idea
has always relied on the willingness of people to change their
opinions, one should remember that whenever major changes to our way
of thinking about the world have been introduced, they have almost
always encountered opposition from the pseudo-scientific crowd.  I see
this as a continuation of that theme: people holding on to dogma
because they want to.  Which means that you're never going to change
their minds, no matter how complete the evidence against it.
Oddly enough, this came up today!  xkcd's a popular comic with the
more scientifically minded collegiate crowd - **make sure to let your
cursor rest over the image to see the commentary - it can oftentimes
be funnier than the comic itself.

http://xkcd.com/808/

I don't know what the odds were of that, but it sure was a pleasant surprise..
Regards,
Jason


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Martin Altmann
altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote:
 Shht Paul, relying in the abilities of animals,

 and knowing the Romanian method to avoid underground watercourses - just
 drive a pig into your house, wait, where it lays down to sleep - there is
 the right place for the bed,
 - not to mention their geomantic help to locate truffles
 (a stuff more expensive than ordinary meteorites or irons)

 I start to train dowsing helpers:

 http://www.agilitysports.ch/images/schwein_gehabt.jpg


 Best!
 Martin



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