Re: [meteorite-list] Iridium measuring and testing- disgressionondowsing...

2009-03-18 Thread Michael Bross

Thanks Dave

You saw... I got a warm but also hot welcome :)
A bientot
Michael B, France


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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:02 AM
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Welcome to the meteorite list, Michael... ;-)
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Bross
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:33 PM
To: cyna...@charter.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iridium measuring and testing-
disgressionondowsing...

No
I am talking about Yves Rocard, also father of Michel Rocard, Prime 
minister

in France several years. Not a charlatan !

I really don't like your mocking comments ! To say the least !

I have been many years on a SERIOUS alchemical forum. Not talking about 
some
stupid way to change lead into gold and other such legends stuck to 
alchemy,
which I see as a proto chemistry... BUT regretting that modern chemistry 
has

forgotten
parts of what alchemy had searched, notably empiric knowledge etc... !
The philosophical stone... well it is just and only philosophical,
that's what real alchemy is about.

I am considered as a serious scientist... certainly more than the famous
anesthesiologist Dr. Reuben, who just showed the dark side of modern
science:
(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/11/health/research/11pain.html?_r=1scp=1sq
=Reubenst=cse)

If you think he is the only one... think twice :) And you have same in 
most

other sciences, including agronomy and environmental studies that I know
most !

No, real alchemy was not any more the major science at Newton's time... !
get informed.
Go to the Vatican, which took all of the alchemical texts from the castle
from Heidelberg after WW2... or to Scotland...

Last but not least: if you had read my post in its entirety... you 
wouldn't

talk like this, unless... ??!

Enjoy your evening

Michael B, France


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From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iridium measuring and testing- disgression
ondowsing...


On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:21:25 +0100, you wrote:


Yves Rocard was simply saying that each and every human has an infinite
amount of magnetite ?
(can't remember) or something alike at both our wrists.
This amount varies greatly between individuals, resulting in better
capabilities for some to find water sources etc...
When using a rod, especially hazelnut, an arch is produced with an
intensity related to the amount or depth of the water.


Ah, I see the source of the confusion here.  You mean midiclorians, not
magnetite.  And Yoda, not Yves.  Here's a quote from that paper:

Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And
well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is.
Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us.
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force
around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. 
Even

between the land and the ship.



How many people know that Newton (and many other famous scientists) did
serious alchemical studies and writings in secrecy, to not tarnish
their reputation... ?


Very few people know that, given the fact that alchemy WAS the mainstream
science at the time-- there was nothing to hide.  Given the scientific
knowledge at the time, searching for the philosopher's stone was no less
reasonable or credible a scientific pursuit than any other (but which, in
the end, turned out to be based on an inaccurate model of the basis of
matter.)  Chemestry as we know it hadn't been invented yet.  Modern
chemestry is what is left of alchemy after many ideas in alchemy have been
disproven (and some proven).
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Re: [meteorite-list] Iridium measuring and testing- disgressionondowsing...

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Gheesling
Welcome to the meteorite list, Michael... ;-)
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com 

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From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Bross
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:33 PM
To: cyna...@charter.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iridium measuring and testing-
disgressionondowsing...

No
I am talking about Yves Rocard, also father of Michel Rocard, Prime minister
in France several years. Not a charlatan !

I really don't like your mocking comments ! To say the least !

I have been many years on a SERIOUS alchemical forum. Not talking about some
stupid way to change lead into gold and other such legends stuck to alchemy,
which I see as a proto chemistry... BUT regretting that modern chemistry has
forgotten
parts of what alchemy had searched, notably empiric knowledge etc... !
The philosophical stone... well it is just and only philosophical,
that's what real alchemy is about.

I am considered as a serious scientist... certainly more than the famous
anesthesiologist Dr. Reuben, who just showed the dark side of modern
science:
(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/11/health/research/11pain.html?_r=1scp=1sq
=Reubenst=cse)

If you think he is the only one... think twice :) And you have same in most
other sciences, including agronomy and environmental studies that I know
most !

No, real alchemy was not any more the major science at Newton's time... ! 
get informed.
Go to the Vatican, which took all of the alchemical texts from the castle
from Heidelberg after WW2... or to Scotland...

Last but not least: if you had read my post in its entirety... you wouldn't
talk like this, unless... ??!

Enjoy your evening

Michael B, France


- Original Message -
From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iridium measuring and testing- disgression
ondowsing...


On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:21:25 +0100, you wrote:

Yves Rocard was simply saying that each and every human has an infinite 
amount of magnetite ?
(can't remember) or something alike at both our wrists.
This amount varies greatly between individuals, resulting in better 
capabilities for some to find water sources etc...
When using a rod, especially hazelnut, an arch is produced with an 
intensity related to the amount or depth of the water.

Ah, I see the source of the confusion here.  You mean midiclorians, not
magnetite.  And Yoda, not Yves.  Here's a quote from that paper:

Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And
well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is.
Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us.
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force
around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even
between the land and the ship.


How many people know that Newton (and many other famous scientists) did 
serious alchemical studies and writings in secrecy, to not tarnish 
their reputation... ?

Very few people know that, given the fact that alchemy WAS the mainstream
science at the time-- there was nothing to hide.  Given the scientific
knowledge at the time, searching for the philosopher's stone was no less
reasonable or credible a scientific pursuit than any other (but which, in
the end, turned out to be based on an inaccurate model of the basis of
matter.)  Chemestry as we know it hadn't been invented yet.  Modern
chemestry is what is left of alchemy after many ideas in alchemy have been
disproven (and some proven).
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