Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
In city conditions there is too much interference for a pulse detector anyway. Mark, I'm not sure about other VLF detectors but I do know that my GMT has a iron discriminator which tells me how much iron is in the target. The other problem with gold machines in the city is all the aluminum but on my GMT aluminum makes such a sharp high frequency sound that I can tell right away it's aluminum. At Franconia I know almost immediately if I've swung my detector over an aluminum bullet. The discriminator switch on the GMT is great for Franconia because the Sacramento Wash 005's make a zip-zip sound, the basalt makes a grunt-grunt sound and meteorites make a zip-grunt sound. I also have a 6 by 8 coil for weeding through areas of high trash. [Erik] Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:44 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Erik and List, A gold machine can find all targets. But without a discriminating coin machine, you have to dig each target to find out what it is (be it foil, pull tabs, nails, etc.). If you only have an hour to hunt a park, that could mean the difference between recovering 30 coins with a DFX, or 5 with a GMT (with a lot more junk recovered). While a DFX can find gold/meteorites, all the folks I know will leave the coin machine at home. Dean, if you spend most of your time in a city, you would probably be best served with a coin machine as there are a lot of sites within easy reach. Since I bought a coin machine, I've done a lot more detecting because the gold/meteorite fields in my area require at least a day trip. I can fill a hours time now (or even less) and find some coins/jewelry. Good luck, Mark --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Erik Fisler wrote: From: Erik Fisler Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:05 PM A good gold machine can find coins, a good coin machine can't necessarily find gold. White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great, Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT, and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great! or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference and pinpointing issues... I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel... depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal, or deep metal targets... happy hunting! [Erik] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have a multi-use machine that does a good job. The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. But again, 2 machines is better. Having a deep seeking gold machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would increase the probability of success. I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead. Good luck, Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey wrote: From: dean bessey Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
Yeah Erik, you can get a feel for a few things, but you'll still spend a ton of time digging trash. Small unweathered iron targets don't usually show up as iron on the GMT. I've used it a lot to hunt parks. Several in my group tried to do it, but we could never really distinguish between coins, aluminum pull tabs, steel bottle caps, and other common trash items with any degree of success. Once I got the DFX, I almost kicked myself for waiting so long... I have no field experience with a PI, but my view is that they use them in Australia for a reason. If I were to go nugget hunting there, I'd use what the locals use. I'd leave my Whites at home and get a Minelab (I have an old vlf model from in the mid 90's which worked pretty good). But don't get me wrong, I know some detectorists who dig everything at parks, it's the only way to ensure you get all the jewelry. And there are so many strange things lost, some valuable, so if you have the time, it's fun to dig everything. I have limited time so I cherry pick as much as I can. I just think that if Dean lives in a city, and only hunt meteorites 1 or 2 times a year, a coin machine will provide more enjoyment. I imagine a coin machine would do fine for normal sized meteorite targets, but I know that tiny gold will go unnoticed. Happy hunting and happy Thanksgiving everybody!! Mark B. Vail, Az IMCA 6645 --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com wrote: From: Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 2:49 AM In city conditions there is too much interference for a pulse detector anyway. Mark, I'm not sure about other VLF detectors but I do know that my GMT has a iron discriminator which tells me how much iron is in the target. The other problem with gold machines in the city is all the aluminum but on my GMT aluminum makes such a sharp high frequency sound that I can tell right away it's aluminum. At Franconia I know almost immediately if I've swung my detector over an aluminum bullet. The discriminator switch on the GMT is great for Franconia because the Sacramento Wash 005's make a zip-zip sound, the basalt makes a grunt-grunt sound and meteorites make a zip-grunt sound. I also have a 6 by 8 coil for weeding through areas of high trash. [Erik] Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:44 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Erik and List, A gold machine can find all targets. But without a discriminating coin machine, you have to dig each target to find out what it is (be it foil, pull tabs, nails, etc.). If you only have an hour to hunt a park, that could mean the difference between recovering 30 coins with a DFX, or 5 with a GMT (with a lot more junk recovered). While a DFX can find gold/meteorites, all the folks I know will leave the coin machine at home. Dean, if you spend most of your time in a city, you would probably be best served with a coin machine as there are a lot of sites within easy reach. Since I bought a coin machine, I've done a lot more detecting because the gold/meteorite fields in my area require at least a day trip. I can fill a hours time now (or even less) and find some coins/jewelry. Good luck, Mark --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Erik Fisler wrote: From: Erik Fisler Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:05 PM A good gold machine can find coins, a good coin machine can't necessarily find gold. White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great, Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT, and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great! or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference and pinpointing issues... I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel... depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal, or deep metal targets... happy hunting! [Erik] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
Hi Erik and List, A gold machine can find all targets. But without a discriminating coin machine, you have to dig each target to find out what it is (be it foil, pull tabs, nails, etc.). If you only have an hour to hunt a park, that could mean the difference between recovering 30 coins with a DFX, or 5 with a GMT (with a lot more junk recovered). While a DFX can find gold/meteorites, all the folks I know will leave the coin machine at home. Dean, if you spend most of your time in a city, you would probably be best served with a coin machine as there are a lot of sites within easy reach. Since I bought a coin machine, I've done a lot more detecting because the gold/meteorite fields in my area require at least a day trip. I can fill a hours time now (or even less) and find some coins/jewelry. Good luck, Mark --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com wrote: From: Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:05 PM A good gold machine can find coins, a good coin machine can't necessarily find gold. White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great, Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT, and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great! or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference and pinpointing issues... I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel... depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal, or deep metal targets... happy hunting! [Erik] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have a multi-use machine that does a good job. The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. But again, 2 machines is better. Having a deep seeking gold machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would increase the probability of success. I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead. Good luck, Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
Meteorite Detectors? A good top of the line gold machine is what most meteorite hunters use in their quest to collect these cosmic visitors we call meteorites. However, one must not overlook the hundreds of hours that they put into learning the subtleties of their particular machine. Every metal detector is different and has its own strengths and weaknesses. But remember, the pros never rely on just the squeal of a metal detector to know if they found a meteorite. Visual meteorite I.D. in the field is the key. This is because even the best metal detectors in the world will only tell you if the rock in question has enough mineralization to set it off. There is no such thing as a meteorite detector. To make matters worse there is a large percentage of worthless earth rocks that will make a metal detector sound off. This type of rock is known as a “hot rock”. Therefore one can see how using only a metal detector to find a meteorite among a sea of hot rocks can be an impossible task. However, If a good metal detector is what you want here are the three best candidates for gold and meteorites. Minelab 3000About $3000 Whites GMT About $800 Fisher Gold Bug 2 About $800 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
Meteorite Detectors? A good top of the line gold machine is what most meteorite hunters use in their quest to collect these cosmic visitors we call meteorites. However, one must not overlook the hundreds of hours that they put into learning the subtleties of their particular machine. Every metal detector is different and has its own strengths and weaknesses. But remember, the pros never rely on just the squeal of a metal detector to know if they found a meteorite. Visual meteorite I.D. in the field is the key. This is because even the best metal detectors in the world will only tell you if the rock in question has enough mineralization to set it off. There is no such thing as a meteorite detector. To make matters worse there is a large percentage of worthless earth rocks that will make a metal detector sound off. This type of rock is known as a “hot rock”. Therefore one can see how using only a metal detector to find a meteorite among a sea of hot rocks can be an impossible task. However, If a good metal detector is what you want here are the three best candidates for gold and meteorites. Minelab 3000About $3000 Whites GMT About $800 Fisher Gold Bug 2 About $800 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have a multi-use machine that does a good job. The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. But again, 2 machines is better. Having a deep seeking gold machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would increase the probability of success. I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead. Good luck, Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
A good gold machine can find coins, a good coin machine can't necessarily find gold. White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great, Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT, and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great! or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference and pinpointing issues... I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel... depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal, or deep metal targets... happy hunting! [Erik] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have a multi-use machine that does a good job. The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. But again, 2 machines is better. Having a deep seeking gold machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would increase the probability of success. I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead. Good luck, Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
