Re: [meteorite-list] Monnig questions
Just found the following post from Matteo Chinellato dated 1st September 2002, he mentions having a Monnig Ensisheim specimen for sale with old label. This could possibly be the 218.1 numbered specimen that i am chasing info on. Anyone have any knowledge of this? Matteo, if you still read the list could you email please? I have the 218.2 specimen, the current Monnig/TCU specimen is listed as 23 grams and is number 218.4 so Matteos sale piece should only be either 218.1 or 218.3 (which i dont know the weight of) Hello all I have update my collection site, arrive to 495 pieces! New arrival is NWA 1110 from the main 118 gr. of fragments found, NWA 1052-1054 new acapulcoites, HaH 180 a very nice meteorite, HaH 183 - the Sampson meteorite - Lost Creek - Sampson II - others NWA, Chinquetti and others.others in arrive is Mauerkirchen, Hoba gr.5 slice, Ensisheim from Monnig Collection with old label, Mocs and others http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Regards Matteo Thanks again all Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Monnig questions
Hi Martin, Maybe I can provide you a partial help . In late 2003, I started a compilation of the weights (masses) of all the Ensisheim meteorite fragments, slices...owned in museums, institutes, or held in private collections... I received much feedback and help from various people concerned and, in particulat, from the list at the time, on a relatively regular basis so that I could update the repositories in 2005 and 2007. My latest update of the compilation was done some time in 2009 and completed sporadically with a few new data provided by listees during 2010. As per December 2010 I came up with 171 repositories mentioning the places where the pieces/fragments are held, the owner's name and the exact weight. Presently I realize that, with the accelerated redistribution of meteorites in various collections through trades, web contacts, E-Bay offersmy list badly needs an new update, for which I will send a call for new info data in some very near future. From this latest comlation (2007 - 2010), I can just tell you this: 1) TCU museum (Fort Worth, TX) apparently held a piece of 30.9 grams. It was not specified whether this came from the Monnig collection. This figure is from 2007 and apparently did not change in 2010, although I was in a regular mail connection with David New at the time (though I never asked him specifically to update this figure). 2) Matteo had contacted me some time in 2007, reporting he had in collection 2 Ensisheim pieces weighing together 2.06 grams. He specified both came from the Monnig collection. I neither know the individual weights, nor their Monnig numbers. Hope Matteo can help more. Happy hunting! Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com a écrit : Just found the following post from Matteo Chinellato dated 1st September 2002, he mentions having a Monnig Ensisheim specimen for sale with old label. This could possibly be the 218.1 numbered specimen that i am chasing info on. Anyone have any knowledge of this? Matteo, if you still read the list could you email please? I have the 218.2 specimen, the current Monnig/TCU specimen is listed as 23 grams and is number 218.4 so Matteos sale piece should only be either 218.1 or 218.3 (which i dont know the weight of) Hello all I have update my collection site, arrive to 495 pieces! New arrival is NWA 1110 from the main 118 gr. of fragments found, NWA 1052-1054 new acapulcoites, HaH 180 a very nice meteorite, HaH 183 - the Sampson meteorite - Lost Creek - Sampson II - others NWA, Chinquetti and others.others in arrive is Mauerkirchen, Hoba gr.5 slice, Ensisheim from Monnig Collection with old label, Mocs and others http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Regards Matteo Thanks again all Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Monnig questions
Hi Zelimir, Thankyou for that information and i hope Matteo is reading this as more information from him regards the specimens that he sold would be most useful. In the 1996 Monnig catalogue there are two specimens of Ensisheim listed (I have a copy of that particular page but i am still after a copy of the entire catalogue) One is numbered 218.1 and weighs 3.9 grams and the second is numbered 218.2 and is listed as 4.3 grams. In the 2008 Monnig catalogue there is a specimen numbered 218.4 listed as weighing 22 grams. I assume the 33 gram specimen that you mention is a newer acquisition by TCU. The search goes on! So for your information and to keep your Ensisheim listings as accurate as possible my current specimen is a 4.1 gram Monnig numbered specimen 218.2 Kind regards Martin On 19 November 2012 14:59, Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr wrote: Hi Martin, Maybe I can provide you a partial help . In late 2003, I started a compilation of the weights (masses) of all the Ensisheim meteorite fragments, slices...owned in museums, institutes, or held in private collections... I received much feedback and help from various people concerned and, in particulat, from the list at the time, on a relatively regular basis so that I could update the repositories in 2005 and 2007. My latest update of the compilation was done some time in 2009 and completed sporadically with a few new data provided by listees during 2010. As per December 2010 I came up with 171 repositories mentioning the places where the pieces/fragments are held, the owner's name and the exact weight. Presently I realize that, with the accelerated redistribution of meteorites in various collections through trades, web contacts, E-Bay offersmy list badly needs an new update, for which I will send a call for new info data in some very near future. From this latest comlation (2007 - 2010), I can just tell you this: 1) TCU museum (Fort Worth, TX) apparently held a piece of 30.9 grams. It was not specified whether this came from the Monnig collection. This figure is from 2007 and apparently did not change in 2010, although I was in a regular mail connection with David New at the time (though I never asked him specifically to update this figure). 2) Matteo had contacted me some time in 2007, reporting he had in collection 2 Ensisheim pieces weighing together 2.06 grams. He specified both came from the Monnig collection. I neither know the individual weights, nor their Monnig numbers. Hope Matteo can help more. Happy hunting! Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com a écrit : Just found the following post from Matteo Chinellato dated 1st September 2002, he mentions having a Monnig Ensisheim specimen for sale with old label. This could possibly be the 218.1 numbered specimen that i am chasing info on. Anyone have any knowledge of this? Matteo, if you still read the list could you email please? I have the 218.2 specimen, the current Monnig/TCU specimen is listed as 23 grams and is number 218.4 so Matteos sale piece should only be either 218.1 or 218.3 (which i dont know the weight of) Hello all I have update my collection site, arrive to 495 pieces! New arrival is NWA 1110 from the main 118 gr. of fragments found, NWA 1052-1054 new acapulcoites, HaH 180 a very nice meteorite, HaH 183 - the Sampson meteorite - Lost Creek - Sampson II - others NWA, Chinquetti and others.others in arrive is Mauerkirchen, Hoba gr.5 slice, Ensisheim from Monnig Collection with old label, Mocs and others http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Regards Matteo Thanks again all Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
