Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: > Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) > > *herniated disk > > L3-L4 here in Germany, charter member: L4-L5 in 1978. I've been living with constant pain ever since. Luckily its a dull, low-level pain that you learn to tune out. Every once in a while I'll tweak it real bad and become debilitated for a spell - this usually occurs after prolonged periods of relative inactivity. The key, at least for me is to stay active on a regular basis. Surfing does that for me. Meteorite hunting sounds like a great way to stay active as long as you stay away from nasty spiders and lifting 327 lb Glorieta Mtn irons by yourself. gary > Bernd Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
L4-5 /L5-S1. discectomies---one the result of a several hundred pound gibeon slipping off a pedestal at phillips auction house in the late 90s. it didn't hit the floor---but i later did, after a large disc fragment popped and migrated into my spinal canal. some tips for a non emergency situation... AFTER AN EVENT --cold first 24h following an event and then heat. --lower back? lie down. pillows under your calves to press the lower back down --any part of your back or neck? invest in a hydrocollator -- you will thank me -- and they're cheap. http://www.isokineticsinc.com/category/hydrocollator http://www.scriphessco.com/itemdetail.asp?cat=&MENU=&item=231+0035 http://www.chirocity.com/hydrocollatorpacks.aspx you'll see heating units being offered for sale (you absolutely don't need one) as well as terry cloth covers (a few washcloths or folded towel will do the trick). the hydrocollator itself can either be in immersed in boiling water on the stove or immersed in water and then microwaved. i prefer the former. BE CAREFUL! the moist heat is surprisingly penetrating and you can burn yourself easily. start with 3 layers of towels and then and or subtract as needed. LATER (for lower back) --lose weight --strengthen your core --stretch. stretch. stretch. IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT SURGERY IS REQUIRED my fam is crawling with physicians, and the last thing you want is surgery. if possible, exhaust all other options prior to a date with a surgeon. --remember, surgeons are trained (and like to) cut. obtain several opinions; --all disc issues are not the same--let alone seemingly similar lower back issues---and treatments vary. --both neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons can do most jobs; --check your physician's training, specialization and ongoing education. so very important. easy to do online. things are so specialized these days..if you have a lower back issue, it's usually best to go with someone whose practice focuses on the same. --have a lexis search done on the physician for lawsuits --do not evaluate the surgeon based on whether you like him or her---this is not match.com. do the aforementioned research and limit your decision to the resume. be well and all best / d On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: >> that's what I've been doing with my pain in >> the back the last few years (herniated disk). :-/ > >> I partially separated my C3 and C4 vertebrae several years ago > > Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) > > *herniated disk > > L3-L4 here in Germany, > > Bernd > > P.S.: > >> Try falling out of trees and see what that does to your neck and back. > > I did try when I was thirteen... neck and back were ok but my left > elbow burst into bits and pieces. Have a crooked arm ever since :-( > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
Wow all I know this all too well, In 1990 I ruptured my L-3 disc and had a slight buldging disc in my L4, I had micro surgrury for the ruptured disc that year, in Dayton Ohio. I have been great ever since.. I now will not pick up anything hevey, I suffered with major back pain for 6 months befor I had the surgery, They did give me a booklet of what exercise to do to help my lower back, and I do not do it every Day like I should but I do it 4-5 times a month. Back surgery to day is not as bad as it was 20-35 years ago!! depending on what you need done I have not had no pain ever since!! dave - Original Message From: Gary Fujihara To: Ruben Garcia Cc: MeteorList Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:40:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck... On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: > Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) > > *herniated disk > > L3-L4 here in Germany, charter member: L4-L5 in 1978. I've been living with constant pain ever since. Luckily its a dull, low-level pain that you learn to tune out. Every once in a while I'll tweak it real bad and become debilitated for a spell - this usually occurs after prolonged periods of relative inactivity. The key, at least for me is to stay active on a regular basis. Surfing does that for me. Meteorite hunting sounds like a great way to stay active as long as you stay away from nasty spiders and lifting 327 lb Glorieta Mtn irons by yourself. gary > Bernd Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
I sometimes get the gout On 12/4/10 1:44 AM, "Dave Myers" wrote: > Wow all > > I know this all too well, In 1990 I ruptured my L-3 disc and had a slight > buldging disc in my L4, I had micro surgrury for the ruptured disc that year, > in > Dayton Ohio. I have been great ever since.. I now will not pick up anything > hevey, I suffered with major back pain for 6 months befor I had the surgery, > They did give me a booklet of what exercise to do to help my lower back, and I > do not do it every Day like I should but I do it 4-5 times a month. > > > Back surgery to day is not as bad as it was 20-35 years ago!! > depending on what you need done > I have not had no pain ever since!! > > dave > > > > - Original Message > From: Gary Fujihara > To: Ruben Garcia > Cc: MeteorList > Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:40:54 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck... > > On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: > >> Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) >> >> *herniated disk >> >> L3-L4 here in Germany, > > charter member: L4-L5 in 1978. I've been living with constant pain ever > since. > Luckily its a dull, low-level pain that you learn to tune out. Every once in > a > while I'll tweak it real bad and become debilitated for a spell - this usually > occurs after prolonged periods of relative inactivity. > > > The key, at least for me is to stay active on a regular basis. Surfing does > that for me. Meteorite hunting sounds like a great way to stay active as long > as you stay away from nasty spiders and lifting 327 lb Glorieta Mtn irons by > yourself. > > gary > >> Bernd > > Gary Fujihara > Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) > 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ > http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html > (808) 640-9161 > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
Before an injury it realy helps to be in good physical shape. It also helps to see a good kiropractor before injury. A couple hundred bucks a year to a kiropractor can keep your back in line and prevent the lifting injuries from happening in the first place. You dont have to go to a gym and do extensive workouts either to prevent injury. Basic streatching exercizes like touching your toes in the tub while taking a bath . And gymnastic streaching help. Have carple tunnel? Befor trying surgury try swinging a mop around a floor or finding if you have a pinched nerve in your back. Im 52 years old can still run a marathon and and set a dislocated shoulder by myself ot in the wilds. Being flexible by stretching is not physically hard to do but much more important than heavy workouts or lifting exercizes. Have a great day and work on touching your toes no matter how fat you are! Cheers Steve On Fri Dec 3rd, 2010 6:53 PM EST Darryl Pitt wrote: > > >L4-5 /L5-S1. discectomies---one the result of a several hundred pound gibeon >slipping off a pedestal at phillips auction house in the late 90s. it didn't >hit the floor---but i later did, after a large disc fragment popped and >migrated into my spinal canal. > >some tips for a non emergency situation... > >AFTER AN EVENT > >--cold first 24h following an event and then heat. >--lower back? lie down. pillows under your calves to press the lower back >down >--any part of your back or neck? invest in a hydrocollator -- you will thank >me -- and they're cheap. > >http://www.isokineticsinc.com/category/hydrocollator > >http://www.scriphessco.com/itemdetail.asp?cat=&MENU=&item=231+0035 > >http://www.chirocity.com/hydrocollatorpacks.aspx > >you'll see heating units being offered for sale (you absolutely don't need >one) as well as terry cloth covers (a few washcloths or folded towel will do >the trick). the hydrocollator itself can either be in immersed in boiling >water on the stove or immersed in water and then microwaved. i prefer the >former. BE CAREFUL! the moist heat is surprisingly penetrating and you can >burn yourself easily. start with 3 layers of towels and then and or subtract >as needed. > > >LATER (for lower back) >--lose weight >--strengthen your core >--stretch. stretch. stretch. > >IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT SURGERY IS REQUIRED > >my fam is crawling with physicians, and the last thing you want is surgery. >if possible, exhaust all other options prior to a date with a surgeon. > >--remember, surgeons are trained (and like to) cut. obtain several opinions; >--all disc issues are not the same--let alone seemingly similar lower back >issues---and treatments vary. >--both neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons can do most jobs; >--check your physician's training, specialization and ongoing education. so >very important. easy to do online. things are so specialized these days..if >you have a lower back issue, it's usually best to go with someone whose >practice focuses on the same. >--have a lexis search done on the physician for lawsuits >--do not evaluate the surgeon based on whether you like him or her---this is >not match.com. do the aforementioned research and limit your decision to the >resume. > > >be well and all best / d > > >On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: > >>> that's what I've been doing with my pain in >>> the back the last few years (herniated disk). :-/ >> >>> I partially separated my C3 and C4 vertebrae several years ago >> >> Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) >> >> *herniated disk >> >> L3-L4 here in Germany, >> >> Bernd >> >> P.S.: >> >>> Try falling out of trees and see what that does to your neck and back. >> >> I did try when I was thirteen... neck and back were ok but my left >> elbow burst into bits and pieces. Have a crooked arm ever since :-( >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
Time for a little humor...all of you with back injuries, it got me to wonder why all ruptured discs are L3, L4 etc...I wonder if anyone has an H5?? - Original Message - From: "Dave Myers" To: "Gary Fujihara" ; "Ruben Garcia" Cc: "MeteorList" Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck... Wow all I know this all too well, In 1990 I ruptured my L-3 disc and had a slight buldging disc in my L4, I had micro surgrury for the ruptured disc that year, in Dayton Ohio. I have been great ever since.. I now will not pick up anything hevey, I suffered with major back pain for 6 months befor I had the surgery, They did give me a booklet of what exercise to do to help my lower back, and I do not do it every Day like I should but I do it 4-5 times a month. Back surgery to day is not as bad as it was 20-35 years ago!! depending on what you need done I have not had no pain ever since!! dave - Original Message From: Gary Fujihara To: Ruben Garcia Cc: MeteorList Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:40:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck... On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) *herniated disk L3-L4 here in Germany, charter member: L4-L5 in 1978. I've been living with constant pain ever since. Luckily its a dull, low-level pain that you learn to tune out. Every once in a while I'll tweak it real bad and become debilitated for a spell - this usually occurs after prolonged periods of relative inactivity. The key, at least for me is to stay active on a regular basis. Surfing does that for me. Meteorite hunting sounds like a great way to stay active as long as you stay away from nasty spiders and lifting 327 lb Glorieta Mtn irons by yourself. gary Bernd Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck...
L3 L4 L5 Starting to sound like chondrites lol. I HOPE nobody gets anothner back injury. They can be so debilitating. NO MORE HEAVY LIFTING OF LUNARS! Cheers Steve On Sat Dec 4th, 2010 11:57 AM EST Richard Montgomery wrote: >Time for a little humor...all of you with back injuries, it got me to wonder >why all ruptured discs are L3, L4 etc...I wonder if anyone has an H5?? > > >- Original Message - From: "Dave Myers" >To: "Gary Fujihara" ; "Ruben Garcia" >Cc: "MeteorList" >Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:44 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck... > > >Wow all > >I know this all too well, In 1990 I ruptured my L-3 disc and had a slight >buldging disc in my L4, I had micro surgrury for the ruptured disc that year, >in >Dayton Ohio. I have been great ever since.. I now will not pick up anything >hevey, I suffered with major back pain for 6 months befor I had the surgery, >They did give me a booklet of what exercise to do to help my lower back, and I >do not do it every Day like I should but I do it 4-5 times a month. > > >Back surgery to day is not as bad as it was 20-35 years ago!! >depending on what you need done >I have not had no pain ever since!! > >dave > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Gary Fujihara >To: Ruben Garcia >Cc: MeteorList >Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:40:54 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: If not for bad luck... > >On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: > >> Welcome to the HD* club! ;-) >> >> *herniated disk >> >> L3-L4 here in Germany, > >charter member: L4-L5 in 1978. I've been living with constant pain ever since. >Luckily its a dull, low-level pain that you learn to tune out. Every once in a >while I'll tweak it real bad and become debilitated for a spell - this usually >occurs after prolonged periods of relative inactivity. > > >The key, at least for me is to stay active on a regular basis. Surfing does >that for me. Meteorite hunting sounds like a great way to stay active as long >as you stay away from nasty spiders and lifting 327 lb Glorieta Mtn irons by >yourself. > >gary > >> Bernd > >Gary Fujihara >Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) >105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 >http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ >http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html >(808) 640-9161 > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
