Re: [uf-discuss] Granddogma Goes to Bar Camp

2007-08-22 Thread David Janes
On 8/21/07, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is an awesome post and goes back to a discussion I became very
 frustrated in a while back:

IMHO, the ideal state of the end user is they see (for example) Tara's
name on a webpage and they just click to copy the microformat to their
address book. Underneath, they don't care how all the plumbing gets
there to make this work, they just do the action.

What will they call this action? When most people use technology, it's
all just magic words: TCP/IP, HTTP, HTML, e-mail, hook up the cable
modem, push the brake peddle: simple invocations that refer to using
technology that underneath _they really have no idea how it operates_.
Our job as technologists is to make using microformats as magical as
that.

As to nomenclature, Microformats is as good a magic word as any
other proposal I've heard, and probably better than most.

Regards, etc...

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RE: [uf-discuss] iPhone Developer Meeting in Berkeley w/ focus onMicroformats

2007-08-22 Thread Farndon, Tony
Being in the UK, it is hard to get excited or quite understand
everything iPhone - I'm not an iPhone basher trawling, merely sitting on
the fence. A few questions banding about my head over this:

In essence, are you saying lets produce a microformat that describes
webpages written for Safari (iPhone version)?

By extrapolation, is it therefore acceptable to discuss a microformat
that describes webpages written for IE5.5? 

microformat principles:

* solve a specific problem - What's the problem here?
* design for humans first, machines second - This to mean seems all
about the machine?

Would this be the first microformat that is specifically written for a
specific browser, operating system and piece of hardware?

Tony


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chris Messina
Sent: 21 August 2007 19:38
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: [uf-discuss] iPhone Developer Meeting in Berkeley w/ focus
onMicroformats

Here's the event link:

http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/234913/

It's taking place at the new coworking space in Berkeley. Topics of
interest:

* A microformat for describing iPhone webapp services. This could
include icon, description, pointers to special web pages, etc.
* Support of various microformat standards like hCard.
* An iPhone standard UI and examples for OpenID.
* Exploration of what we can do usefully with Safari Canvas.

Just an FYI.

Chris

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Re: [uf-discuss] Spliting the Address of Vcard

2007-08-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, August 22, 2007 15:47, Tom Byers wrote:
 Hi, I'm trying to mark-up some addresses I have on a web-page with the
 hcard but it is proving difficult due to the order of the address elements.
 What I have is something that looks like this on screen:


 Glasgow 01889 667 542
 27 church road G12 3HH


 More tags can be added but the problem is that the telephone number is
 in the middle of address elements - this part of the mark-up cannot be
 changed.

That's not a problem:

span class=vcard
span class=adr
span class=localityGlasgow/span span class=tel01889 667 542/span
span class=street-address27 church road/span span
class=postal-codeG12 3HH/span
/span
/span

should work fine.

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Re: [uf-discuss] Spliting the Address of Vcard

2007-08-22 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 8/22/07, Tom Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 More tags can be added but the problem is that the telephone number is
 in the middle of address elements - this part of the mark-up cannot be
 changed.

I don't believe this is a problem - there shouldn't be a problem with
other hCard subproperties being used inside a @class=adr.

-Ciaran McNulty
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Re: [uf-discuss] iPhone Developer Meeting in Berkeley w/ focusonMicroformats

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Reynen

On Aug 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Michael MD wrote:

I think he might have meant something more like a way to describe  
widgets or

small applications.


Indeed, if you look at the Upcoming page Chris pointed to, he left a  
comment there pointing to the pre-iPhone widget microformat work:


http://microformats.org/wiki/widget

Peace,
Scott

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RE: [uf-discuss] inappropriate behaviour

2007-08-22 Thread Ted Drake


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Reynen
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:13 PM
Enough already!

I think we've all been in situations and groups that get torn apart or lose
people because one or two people get on soap boxes about issues that are not
relevant to the discussion.

Andy, take a chill pill. I'm so tired of this thread I'd permanently ban you
myself.

If people insist on writing emails complaining about so and so and defending
there use of this and that... please take the list off of your cc. The rest
of us don't need it.

P.S. This stuff gets archived and appears when people do a search for your
name. Do you really want this argument thread to represent your knowledge of
microformatting?

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Re: [uf-discuss] inappropriate behaviour

2007-08-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Drake 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes


This stuff gets archived and appears when people do a search for your 
name. Do you really want this argument thread to represent your 
knowledge of microformatting?


Not especially; but I'd rather that, than let the asinine comments about 
me which started it be archived unchallenged.


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