[uf-discuss] Musicreviewz.org

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hi all

I've recently been hacking together a site that will become musicreviewz.org

http://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2826/

It's a simple app that lets users sign in and review albums so long as:

- the album exists in musicbrainz

- they're happy to sign up to creative commons

It still needs more work: more feeds, proper hosting and a dab of css if I
can find a friendly designer

Anyway, it uses rel-tag, rel-license, rel-home, rel-bookmark, hcard, hatom
and hreview

If you get 10 minutes can you take a look and let me know where I've gone
wrong

Cheers
michael


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Re: [uf-discuss] marking up table rows - carrying id through rows to create multiple unique .ics exports

2007-09-13 Thread Scott Reynen

On Sep 12, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Matt Warnock wrote:

I am giving the first element (cell) of the row time th an id, then  
referencing that id in the following td classes through the headers  
attribute.
I'm using the clues in the Allsopp book of naming the axis  
attribute the same as the th column id, and then stating the scope  
of row but it's getting me confused. I'm using a fragmented URL  
with an escaped %23 for the button to ping the conversion service  
at Suda's X2V address.


If someone could take a peek at the code I would be really  
appreciate it.


Its the first table, the today's upcoming classes table
http://exhale.daisyinteractive.com/locations/santa-monica/


I'm not very familiar with table column semantics, but I'm not sure  
they're necessary in this case.  It looks like you could just move  
the class=vevent to the tr and use standard nesting (i.e. put the  
event properties within the event element).  Maybe I'm missing  
something?


Peace,
Scott

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RE: [uf-discuss] marking up table rows - carrying id through rows tocreate multiple unique .ics exports

2007-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,

This is more an accessibility issue, but I couldn't help noticing that
you've marked up the event times as the row headings for each row. So the
headings for 'santa monica' in the first row are 'location' and '0700 -
0800'. I think it would make more sense, particularly to assistive
technology, if the event names were marked up as the row headings instead.

Cheers
Jim O'Donnell

Original Message:
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From: Matt Warnock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:43:39 -0700
To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org
Subject: [uf-discuss] marking up table rows - carrying id through rows
tocreate multiple unique .ics exports


Hello - I have a question of how to create an id that carries through 
several cell elements and then links to the X2V service to create the 
.ics file.

I am hoping to have multiple events on one page and want to give the 
user one option to download the class they want to attend and not all 
the classes. Do you create and id in the first element, then reference 
this in the headers= attribute?  I can't seem to get it going and 
populating the ics file correctly. I had it going but it would add the 
location, now it's just shooting blanks.  I don't mean to run to this 
discussion board every time I can't figure stuff out, but it's been a 
long day on this. My cards keep coming up empty.

I am giving the first element (cell) of the row time th an id, then 
referencing that id in the following td classes through the headers 
attribute.
I'm using the clues in the Allsopp book of naming the axis attribute 
the same as the th column id, and then stating the scope of row but 
it's getting me confused. I'm using a fragmented URL with an escaped 
%23 for the button to ping the conversion service at Suda's X2V 
address.

If someone could take a peek at the code I would be really appreciate 
it.

Its the first table, the today's upcoming classes table
http://exhale.daisyinteractive.com/locations/santa-monica/

Thanks for any help on this.
...
Matt Warnock

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Re: [uf-discuss] Musicreviewz.org

2007-09-13 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,

On 9/13/07, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 I've recently been hacking together a site that will become musicreviewz.org

 http://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2826/

[...]

 Anyway, it uses rel-tag, rel-license, rel-home, rel-bookmark, hcard, hatom
 and hreview

 If you get 10 minutes can you take a look and let me know where I've gone
 wrong

You two rel-tag's on there look fine.  (The last token of the path
of the URL is the tag name.  For example... the last token of the
path of http://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2826/tags/test; is test...
and thus is the tag name.)

You use of rel-bookmark also seems fine.  (It's being used on the link
to the articles.)

Your hCards also seem fine.  (You have them on the author of the articles.)

The only minor criticism I have on your use of hAtom is that I
probably would have put the entry-title on the h3 tag.  h3 and
entry-title say very similar things... but that's just a matter of
style and not necessary.

I'll let someone else take a look at the hReview stuff.


See ya

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Re: [uf-discuss] marking up table rows - carrying id through rows to create multiple unique .ics exports

2007-09-13 Thread Ryan King

On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Matt Warnock wrote:

Hello - I have a question of how to create an id that carries  
through several cell elements and then links to the X2V service to  
create the .ics file.


I am hoping to have multiple events on one page and want to give  
the user one option to download the class they want to attend and  
not all the classes. Do you create and id in the first element,  
then reference this in the headers= attribute?  I can't seem to  
get it going and populating the ics file correctly. I had it going  
but it would add the location, now it's just shooting blanks.  I  
don't mean to run to this discussion board every time I can't  
figure stuff out, but it's been a long day on this. My cards keep  
coming up empty.


I am giving the first element (cell) of the row time th an id, then  
referencing that id in the following td classes through the headers  
attribute.
I'm using the clues in the Allsopp book of naming the axis  
attribute the same as the th column id, and then stating the scope  
of row but it's getting me confused. I'm using a fragmented URL  
with an escaped %23 for the button to ping the conversion service  
at Suda's X2V address.


If someone could take a peek at the code I would be really  
appreciate it.


Its the first table, the today's upcoming classes table
http://exhale.daisyinteractive.com/locations/santa-monica/


put class='vevent' and id='foo' on the tr and it should work fine.

-ryan
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[uf-discuss] Microformats Would Benefit From a Pseudo-Namespace

2007-09-13 Thread fora
Since it belongs here:

http://meiert.com/en/blog/20070913/microformats-and-pseudo-namespaces/


All the best,
 Jens.

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Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats Would Benefit From a Pseudo-Namespace

2007-09-13 Thread Ryan King

On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Since it belongs here:

http://meiert.com/en/blog/20070913/microformats-and-pseudo-namespaces/


I hope you don't think I'm being overly critical, I just think your  
reasoning is flawed in a few ways and doesn't line up with the  
experience many of us have had in working with microformats over the  
last few years.


To quote from the article:

Current microformats unnecessarily limit “regular” web development.


This may be somewhat true, but your supporting assertions are not:

The hCard microformat alone theoretically blocks more than 20 class  
names


is true only if you qualify it with when used in the context of an  
element that has the class name of 'vcard'.


This has no conflict with hCard:


!doctype html
htmlspan class=titleNot a job title/span


Again from the article:


There is unnecessary cognitive load.

Since this relies on the previous point, I don't think its valid.  
Authors only need to worry about root class names conflicting and  
using conflicting names within elements that have root class names on  
them. It's no where as bad as you make it sound.


also,

This is a very strict point of view, but seen mathematically, the  
microformat development will theoretically result in blocking every  
name available,


is unfounded given the process [http://microformats.org/wiki/process]  
and ammounts to little more than FUD. Also, I'm not sure what you  
mean by mathematically? Do you mean, assuming unabated growth of  
microformats, we will eventually run out class names to use? If so,  
I think you're also assuming an infinite number of monkeys typing up  
random microformat specs (which use infinitely long class names 
(there's no limit on the length of class names)). Not only is this  
point practically wrong, but also wrong in theory.





There are unnecessary layout risks.

The larger the project and the more web decorators, designers, or  
developers involved, the greater the likelihood that there are  
unforeseen display problems when maintaining and extending the  
project. This is just a plain fact, independent of available  
measures. Microformats currently unnecessarily increase this  
likelihood as illustrated above, just due to the fact that they  
require developers who are aware of the constraints imposed by  
microformats. Again, this is just superfluous.



The larger the project, the more need there is for markup best  
practices, and microformats present a set or markup best practices  
which can be shared from one workplace to another, not just within  
individual projects. I think microformats are a benefit to large  
projects, not a hinderance. Also, I don't see how your supporting  
points have anything to do with the layout of microformats in  
particular, it seems to be relevant to all markup practices.






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