Re: [uf-discuss] Firefox 3 (was: Icons of MF wiki)

[Manu Sporny]

Andy Mabbett wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael
> Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> 
>> On 11/1/08 10:31, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
 do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
 interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
>>>
>>> We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions
>>> both in favor of and against including RDFa support in a future
>>> release of Firefox.
>>
>> +10 for me and my colleagues
> 
> I have ~50,000 colleagues. Available to the highest bidder ;-)

Could you, perhaps, get some of them to start analyzing websites[1] for
us :)

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[1]http://microformats.org/wiki/video-info-examples#Video_Sites_Needing_Analysis

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Re: [uf-discuss] Firefox 3 (was: Icons of MF wiki)

[Andy Mabbett]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael 
Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes



On 11/1/08 10:31, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?


We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions
both in favor of and against including RDFa support in a future
release of Firefox.


+10 for me and my colleagues


I have ~50,000 colleagues. Available to the highest bidder ;-)

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Re: [uf-discuss] hAudio rel-enclosure & linking issues

[Martin McEvoy]

Hello Andy

> It would also seem to be inadvisable to use rel="enclosure" for links to 
> off-site files.

Please can you explain a little further why you have an issue with this?

It seems sound enough to me :) I have found more often than not that a
purchased audio track is rarely downloaded from the website you actually
buy the track from.

rel="encloseure" simply means that the hyperlink destination is
something that can be downloaded or cached?

Thanks

Martin McEvoy

p.s I posted this one too to microformats new ;) the same reasons as
before.

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Re: [uf-discuss] hAudio issue: position

[Martin McEvoy]

Hello Andy

I have cross posted this email to microformats new as I believe hAudio
is still in development and any Issues anyone may have with haudio
should really be posted there.

On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:35 +, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> The recommended use of "position" in hAudio:
> 
>
> 
> is contrary to the good practice, semantic use of ordered lists ("OL").
> 
> The mark up on the wiki:
> 
>
>   1.
>   Sanity
>   (5:48)
> 
> 
>  2.
>  Highway To Hell
>  (3:39)
>   
> 
> should be:
> 
>   
> 
>   Sanity
>   (5:48)
> 
> 
>  Highway To Hell
>  (3:39)
> 
>   
> 
> leaving no numerals to be marked up.

Position was a late addition because most of the examples we were
studying used tables in the design of their web pages, we also found
that XOXO or OL doesn't work in tables
http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-June/000482.html
 
so now you can do both, use an ordered list without marking up
"position" and also use hAudio in tables with the ability to markup
position. 


Thanks

Martin McEvoy
> 

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Re: [uf-discuss] Firefox 3 (was: Icons of MF wiki)

[Manu Sporny]

Michael Smethurst wrote:
> On 11/1/08 10:31, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>> do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
>>> interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
>> We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions
>> both in favor of and against including RDFa support in a future
>> release of Firefox.

+1 for me. +1 for our company.

It would be a real shame if only one way of extracting semantics from a
web page were supported in Firefox. If Firefox is serious about the
semantic web, it would be nice to see support for all the methods of
expressing semantics on web pages.

Note the recent proposal on creating a unified representation for
semantic objects (uF, RDFa, eRDF):

http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-dev/2008-January/000410.html

This would make it much easier for Firefox to support semantics in
pages. It isn't technically difficult to support all of them, so I see
no reason not to do so.

-- manu

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Re: [uf-discuss] Firefox 3 (was: Icons of MF wiki)

[Michael Smethurst]

On 11/1/08 10:31, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
>> interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
> 
> We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions
> both in favor of and against including RDFa support in a future
> release of Firefox.

+10 for me and my colleagues

> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/1/08 18:03, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
 By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some such) or 4.0?
>>> 
>>> The next major release (point releases are primarily used for
>>> security
>>> updates).  In general we try to do a release every 12 months, but
>>> since 3 has turned into a longer cycle (starting to look like 16-17
>>> months) and focused on a lot of backed changes, the next release may
>>> potentially be a shorter cycle and be more about front end changes.
>>> However, that plan hasn't been formalized yet.  Since we are
>>> completely focused on 3 right now, we don't have an estimated
>>> schedule
>>> of exactly when we would like to ship 4.0
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>> 
>> Hi Alex
>> 
>> Sorry to be a pain but do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
>> interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>> 
 On Thu, January 10, 2008 16:48, Alex Faaborg wrote:
 
 
> In order to maintain the current ship schedule for Firefox 3,
> we won't be exposing microformatted content in the user interface.
 
 Much as I'm keen to have FF3, that's a shame.
 
> we will only need to worry about finishing front end changes for
> getting
> microformat support into the next release.
 
 By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some such) or 4.0?
 
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Re: [uf-discuss] Firefox 3 (was: Icons of MF wiki)

[Alex Faaborg]

do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?


We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions  
both in favor of and against including RDFa support in a future  
release of Firefox.


-Alex


On Jan 11, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:





On 10/1/08 18:03, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some such) or 4.0?


The next major release (point releases are primarily used for  
security

updates).  In general we try to do a release every 12 months, but
since 3 has turned into a longer cycle (starting to look like 16-17
months) and focused on a lot of backed changes, the next release may
potentially be a shorter cycle and be more about front end changes.
However, that plan hasn't been formalized yet.  Since we are
completely focused on 3 right now, we don't have an estimated  
schedule

of exactly when we would like to ship 4.0

-Alex


Hi Alex

Sorry to be a pain but do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?




On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:


On Thu, January 10, 2008 16:48, Alex Faaborg wrote:



In order to maintain the current ship schedule for Firefox 3,
we won't be exposing microformatted content in the user interface.


Much as I'm keen to have FF3, that's a shame.


we will only need to worry about finishing front end changes for
getting
microformat support into the next release.


By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some such) or 4.0?

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Re: [uf-discuss] Firefox 3 (was: Icons of MF wiki)

[Michael Smethurst]

On 10/1/08 18:03, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some such) or 4.0?
> 
> The next major release (point releases are primarily used for security
> updates).  In general we try to do a release every 12 months, but
> since 3 has turned into a longer cycle (starting to look like 16-17
> months) and focused on a lot of backed changes, the next release may
> potentially be a shorter cycle and be more about front end changes.
> However, that plan hasn't been formalized yet.  Since we are
> completely focused on 3 right now, we don't have an estimated schedule
> of exactly when we would like to ship 4.0
> 
> -Alex

Hi Alex

Sorry to be a pain but do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, January 10, 2008 16:48, Alex Faaborg wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> In order to maintain the current ship schedule for Firefox 3,
>>> we won't be exposing microformatted content in the user interface.
>> 
>> Much as I'm keen to have FF3, that's a shame.
>> 
>>> we will only need to worry about finishing front end changes for
>>> getting
>>> microformat support into the next release.
>> 
>> By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some such) or 4.0?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Andy Mabbett
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