Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Possible alternative methods for include

2008-02-09 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 15:21 +, Martin McEvoy wrote:
 eg: we could use class data as a container for what we want to
 include.
 
 span class=vcard
 span class=data
 span class=fnFoo/span
 /span
 a class=email href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]email
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/a
 /span 

The above example was not very clear was it?, so a proposal can be found
here:

http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern-strawman#Use_a_Class_Create_method

Thanks

Martin McEvoy


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[uf-discuss] microformats and privacy

2008-02-09 Thread Thom Shannon
What is the response to the privacy argument? As a carefree technophile 
I'm happy publishing personal info on the web. But when you're trying to 
convince a major social network to add semantics that makes their users 
personal information easier to harvest and possibly abuse. Is there any 
answer?


http://www.flickr.com/groups/flickrideas/discuss/72157603869809336/


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Re: [uf-discuss] A further possible solution to the abbr accessibility issue

2008-02-09 Thread Sarven Capadisli
On 2/8/08, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

 Early in December, I made the following suggestion, but in a separate,
 and unclearly-titled thread.
 
 I'm reposting it here, in a new thread, in the hope that it will
 warrant discussion:

 [prefix changed to data]

span class=dtstart
  title=data:20070912T16:03:00+01:00
  4.03pm
/span

 A further advantage of this method has just occurred to me; it could use
 plain-language *and* machine values in one title, thus:

 span class=dtstart
 title=we start at three minutes
 past four - data: 2007-09-12T16:03:00+01:00
 4.03pm
 /span

 and we could even exempt parentheses:

 span class=dtstart
 title=we start at three minutes
 past 4 (data: 2007-09-12T16:03:00+01:00)
 4.03pm
 /span

 --
 Andy Mabbett


I wonder if this will be heavy for the parsers when both
plain-language *and* machine values are mixed i.e., knowing the
scope of the regex to differentiate between the two.

-Sarven
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Re: [uf-discuss] microformats and privacy

2008-02-09 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Obviously doesn't publish any information to the web that you want private.

For example facebook asks you for your phone number... so it can
show it to others... but you don't have to give it that info!

Microformats will help expose the information you are willing to put
out there.  (If you want something private... then don't give it
out.)

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On Feb 9, 2008 10:22 AM, Thom Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the response to the privacy argument? As a carefree technophile
 I'm happy publishing personal info on the web. But when you're trying to
 convince a major social network to add semantics that makes their users
 personal information easier to harvest and possibly abuse. Is there any
 answer?

 http://www.flickr.com/groups/flickrideas/discuss/72157603869809336/
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[uf-discuss] hKit and include-pattern scope

2008-02-09 Thread Sarven Capadisli
Isn't the importation of data from external resources using hKit face
similar issues as in include-pattern?

re: http://microformats.org/wiki?title=include-pattern-faqdiff=0oldid=25623

-Sarven
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Re: [uf-discuss] microformats and privacy

2008-02-09 Thread Guillaume Lebleu

Thom Shannon wrote:
What is the response to the privacy argument? As a carefree 
technophile I'm happy publishing personal info on the web. But when 
you're trying to convince a major social network to add semantics that 
makes their users personal information easier to harvest and possibly 
abuse. Is there any answer?



Thom,

Last year, I brought up the idea of something I named hprivacy and 
presented a very primitive hprivacy html proxy filter prototype with 
three groups: pro, family, friends and public. See 
http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-April/009264.html
This is a tiny prototype that is not integrated with a tagged social 
graph, so for now, I simulate the filtering by passing the group in the 
URL. But you'll get the idea.


Some links have moved:
http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php (what the public sees)
http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php?group=family (what a 
family member would see)

http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php?group=friends
http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php?group=pro

See the markup: http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/hcard.html 
(obviously, in real implementation, this would be pulled from a 
non-public folder)


There didn't seem to be much interest on this list. Maybe because it's 
not so much about data formats and/or because it's about marking up 
content that is not public to anyone (microformats seems to have a bias 
toward public content).


Let me know what you think.

Also, someone helped me design a cool logo: http://hprivacy.org

Guillaume
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[uf-discuss] A further possible solution to the abbr accessibility issue

2008-02-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Sarven Capadisli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes



A further advantage of this method has just occurred to me; it could use
plain-language *and* machine values in one title, thus:

span class=dtstart
title=we start at three minutes
past four - data: 2007-09-12T16:03:00+01:00
4.03pm
/span

and we could even exempt parentheses:

span class=dtstart
title=we start at three minutes
past 4 (data: 2007-09-12T16:03:00+01:00)
4.03pm
/span


I wonder if this will be heavy for the parsers when both 
plain-language *and* machine values are mixed i.e., knowing the scope 
of the regex to differentiate between the two.


'Everything after data: excluding leading white space and a trailing 
close-parenthesis, if any' shouldn't be to difficult to code.


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Andy Mabbett
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