Re: [uf-discuss] [FYI] Ubiquity Command
Whoa.. very handy Martin. Thank you very much. I think I would have prefered uf-search or uf-wiki since it's not only quicker to type but also more memorable, at least for us folks. :) -- André Luís On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All There is now a Ubiquity[1] Command to search the microformats wiki with your words the command is: micro-search (your words) you can subscribe to it at http://weborganics.co.uk/ [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity] Best Wishes Martin McEvoy ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] [FYI] Ubiquity Command
André Luís wrote: Whoa.. very handy Martin. Thank you very much. I think I would have prefered uf-search or uf-wiki since it's not only quicker to type but also more memorable, at least for us folks. :) Thanks André, you are right changed to uf-search its much more memorable, if you have the command set to auto update just restart your browser and all should be well. Best Wishes Martin McEvoy -- André Luís On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All There is now a Ubiquity[1] Command to search the microformats wiki with your words the command is: micro-search (your words) you can subscribe to it at http://weborganics.co.uk/ [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity] Best Wishes Martin McEvoy ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] [FYI] Ubiquity Command
Martin, good work. I encourage you to start a ubiquity page on our wiki and link to your additional commands etc. http://microformats.org/wiki/ubiquity Thanks, Tantek -Original Message- From: Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:04:41 To: Microformats Discussmicroformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] [FYI] Ubiquity Command André Luís wrote: Whoa.. very handy Martin. Thank you very much. I think I would have prefered uf-search or uf-wiki since it's not only quicker to type but also more memorable, at least for us folks. :) Thanks André, you are right changed to uf-search its much more memorable, if you have the command set to auto update just restart your browser and all should be well. Best Wishes Martin McEvoy -- André Luís On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All There is now a Ubiquity[1] Command to search the microformats wiki with your words the command is: micro-search (your words) you can subscribe to it at http://weborganics.co.uk/ [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity] Best Wishes Martin McEvoy ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] [FYI] Ubiquity Command
Tantek Celik wrote: Martin, good work. I encourage you to start a ubiquity page on our wiki and link to your additional commands etc. http://microformats.org/wiki/ubiquity Done! see: http://microformats.org/wiki/ubiquity Best Wishes Martin McEvoy Thanks, Tantek -Original Message- From: Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:04:41 To: Microformats Discussmicroformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] [FYI] Ubiquity Command André Luís wrote: Whoa.. very handy Martin. Thank you very much. I think I would have prefered uf-search or uf-wiki since it's not only quicker to type but also more memorable, at least for us folks. :) Thanks André, you are right changed to uf-search its much more memorable, if you have the command set to auto update just restart your browser and all should be well. Best Wishes Martin McEvoy -- André Luís On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All There is now a Ubiquity[1] Command to search the microformats wiki with your words the command is: micro-search (your words) you can subscribe to it at http://weborganics.co.uk/ [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity] Best Wishes Martin McEvoy ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] Today, Tomorrow, and Someday Problems
Interesting blog post by Shane McCarron of XHTML2 fame. He has been involved in the standards community since 1985. His name is on just about every major HTML standard to come out of the W3C - if you use HTML 4.01, XHTML1.0, XHTML 1.1, or will use XHTML2 (to name a few), you're using specs that he had a direct hand in creating or maintaining. It's interesting to see his take on how the W3C and the Microformats community fits into the ecosystem of solving the problems of today, tomorrow and someday. The post discusses Microformats and RDFa: http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-we-do-what-we-do.html -- manu ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Today, Tomorrow, and Someday Problems
Manu Sporny wrote: Interesting blog post by Shane McCarron of XHTML2 fame. He has been involved in the standards community since 1985. His name is on just about every major HTML standard to come out of the W3C - if you use HTML 4.01, XHTML1.0, XHTML 1.1, or will use XHTML2 (to name a few), you're using specs that he had a direct hand in creating or maintaining. It's interesting to see his take on how the W3C and the Microformats community fits into the ecosystem of solving the problems of today, tomorrow and someday. The post discusses Microformats and RDFa: http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-we-do-what-we-do.html Thanks Manu for an interesting post, I have made some comments ;-) I am a bit worried about Shane's other post, http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/rdfa-is-proposed-recommendation.html Unlike microformats, the idiom for annotating your content does not conflict with the normal semantics of (X)HTML (e.g., the class attribute, the title attribute, and abbr). Sound's like a declaration of war from a community who wants to bring Microformats to the fold. Why would you want to use RDFa? For the same reason you want to use microformats. Because you care about machines understanding what is on your page, not just humans. Is it not the other way around in the microformats community? Best Wishes Martin McEvoy -- manu ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Today, Tomorrow, and Someday Problems
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want to use RDFa? For the same reason you want to use microformats. Because you care about machines understanding what is on your page, not just humans. Is it not the other way around in the microformats community? I don't think so. Both are essentially saying humans indeed do come first but we also want to help the machines understand a bit of what humans do. I think neither of them cancel out the need for the other. -Sarven ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Today, Tomorrow, and Someday Problems
Martin, Manu, a brief bit of history. I left the W3C HTML WG and gave up on XHTML2 because I realized it was not tomorrow work, but rather someday work, or maybe even never work, became increasingly frustrated that the HTML WG as a whole ignored their necessary today/tomorrow work [1], and eventually decided that it was time that someone started to experiment with the broad semantic HTML *today* work being done by modern web designers, solving today's real world web problems, with shared vocabularies based on existing standards. I met up with Kevin Marks who had similar ideas and microformats was started. That was years ago (2003-2004). In the meantime, microformats adoption has taken off much faster than any of us could have hoped for, while XHTML2 is largely ignored. XHTML2 wasn't a tomorrow technology 5 years ago [1], and it still isn't today. You could say there may be some bitterness/resentment/jealousy/denial about that. Anyway, I'm largely ignoring it, as I'm trying to do my best to ignore the microformats vs RDFa baiting / artificial-dichotomy that so many have pursued. We have too much productive work to do to be distracted by such drama. Thanks, Tantek [1] http://tantek.com/log/2003/01.html#L20030114 -Original Message- From: Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:47:54 To: Microformats Discussmicroformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Today, Tomorrow, and Someday Problems Manu Sporny wrote: Interesting blog post by Shane McCarron of XHTML2 fame. He has been involved in the standards community since 1985. His name is on just about every major HTML standard to come out of the W3C - if you use HTML 4.01, XHTML1.0, XHTML 1.1, or will use XHTML2 (to name a few), you're using specs that he had a direct hand in creating or maintaining. It's interesting to see his take on how the W3C and the Microformats community fits into the ecosystem of solving the problems of today, tomorrow and someday. The post discusses Microformats and RDFa: http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-we-do-what-we-do.html Thanks Manu for an interesting post, I have made some comments ;-) I am a bit worried about Shane's other post, http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/rdfa-is-proposed-recommendation.html Unlike microformats, the idiom for annotating your content does not conflict with the normal semantics of (X)HTML (e.g., the class attribute, the title attribute, and abbr). Sound's like a declaration of war from a community who wants to bring Microformats to the fold. Why would you want to use RDFa? For the same reason you want to use microformats. Because you care about machines understanding what is on your page, not just humans. Is it not the other way around in the microformats community? Best Wishes Martin McEvoy -- manu ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
