Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Combining hCard and hCalendar

2007-08-07 Thread Brian Suda
On 8/7/07, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Peter Bremer wrote:
>
> > The site is dynamic and on the intranet, so difficult to show
> > something, but the basic layout of the table is thus:
> Someone more familiar with table column semantics could maybe explain
> how that works (I've never used it), but you could also do this with
> the include pattern [1]:

--- table semantics pop-up every once and awhile, and i keep meaning
to scribble some more notes down on the wiki, but never have time.

Tables have several additional semantic attributes, such as AXIS,
HEADER, and SCOPE.

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-brainstorming#Tabular_event_calendars
There is even a note saying TODO, but we´ve never gotten around to it.

It requires some back-ground reading and abit of homework, but X2V
supports it. header/id call-backs.

This might help you get some of the results you are looking for, in a
semantic fashion as well.

Sorry i can't be more help.
-brian

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Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Combining hCard and hCalendar

2007-08-07 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 8/7/07, Peter Bremer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My table row template is as follows:
>
> 
>   Event 1
>   2007-01-01
>   http://example.org/event1"; class="url">subscribe
>   Organiser 1
>   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" class="email">contact
> 

This is pretty tricky, as there's no valid element that can wrap around the TDs.

I think something like the following may make semantic sense:




  Event 1
  2007-01-01
  http://example.org/event1"; class="url">subscribe
  Organiser 1
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" class="email">contact


But a close reading of the HTML spec would be required, and I doubt
any parsers would pick it up..

-Ciaran McNulty
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Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Combining hCard and hCalendar

2007-08-07 Thread Scott Reynen

On Aug 7, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Peter Bremer wrote:


The site is dynamic and on the intranet, so difficult to show
something, but the basic layout of the table is thus:

| Event 1 | 01-01-2007 | example.org/event1 | Organiser 1 |  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Event 2 | 02-02-2007 | example.org/event2 | Organiser 1 |  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Event 3 | 03-03-2007 | example.org/event3 | Organiser 2 |  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |


I would like to be able to extract 2 contacts and 3 events from this
table, and the url (example.org/eventx) should only be connected to
the event.
My table row template is as follows:


  Event 1
  2007-01-01
  http://example.org/event1"; class="url">subscribea>

  Organiser 1
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" class="email">contacta>




Someone more familiar with table column semantics could maybe explain  
how that works (I've never used it), but you could also do this with  
the include pattern [1]:



  Event 1
  2007-01-01
  http://example.org/event1"; class="url">subscribetd>
  Organiser 1class="include" href="#email1">
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  
class="email">contact



Also, I'm guessing you probably want "dtstart" instead of "dtstamp".   
The former indicates when an event is happening, the latter when it  
was published.


[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern

Peace,
Scott

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Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Combining hCard and hCalendar

2007-08-07 Thread Ray Daly
To solve a problem like this, I include all the vcard info within one
cell and then set the display attribute to none. The vcard did not get
displayed but was read by both of the Firefox plugins.

On 8/7/07, Peter Bremer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've got a table that lists a number of events and their organisers.
> > > I'd like to include both hCalendars for the events, and hCards for the
> > > organisers.
> > >
> > > Since each event is listen along with its organiser in a table row,
> > > I've given CLASS="vcard vevent" to the TR. However, now I notice some
> > > of the hCard and hCalendar attributes clash, especially "url" in my
> > > case. The url is only meant to be included in the hCalendar, not in
> > > the hCard.
> > >
> > > How should I handle this case where hCards and hCalendars are mixed
> > > together, without getting conflicting attributes?
> >
> > Do you have a live URL we can look at?  Ideally you'd have
> > class="vcard organizer" within the vevent rather than class="vcard
> > vevent", limiting the scope of the hCard to the actual contact
> > information.  That can be more complex in tables, but it is
> > possible.  See:
> >
> > http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-
> > brainstorming#Tabular_event_calendars
> >
> > Peace,
> > Scott
>
> The site is dynamic and on the intranet, so difficult to show
> something, but the basic layout of the table is thus:
>
> | Event 1 | 01-01-2007 | example.org/event1 | Organiser 1 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> |
> | Event 2 | 02-02-2007 | example.org/event2 | Organiser 1 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> |
> | Event 3 | 03-03-2007 | example.org/event3 | Organiser 2 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> |
>
> I would like to be able to extract 2 contacts and 3 events from this
> table, and the url (example.org/eventx) should only be connected to
> the event.
> My table row template is as follows:
>
> 
>   Event 1
>   2007-01-01
>   http://example.org/event1"; class="url">subscribe
>   Organiser 1
>   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" class="email">contact
> 
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[uf-discuss] Re: Combining hCard and hCalendar

2007-08-07 Thread Peter Bremer
> > I've got a table that lists a number of events and their organisers.
> > I'd like to include both hCalendars for the events, and hCards for the
> > organisers.
> >
> > Since each event is listen along with its organiser in a table row,
> > I've given CLASS="vcard vevent" to the TR. However, now I notice some
> > of the hCard and hCalendar attributes clash, especially "url" in my
> > case. The url is only meant to be included in the hCalendar, not in
> > the hCard.
> >
> > How should I handle this case where hCards and hCalendars are mixed
> > together, without getting conflicting attributes?
>
> Do you have a live URL we can look at?  Ideally you'd have
> class="vcard organizer" within the vevent rather than class="vcard
> vevent", limiting the scope of the hCard to the actual contact
> information.  That can be more complex in tables, but it is
> possible.  See:
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-
> brainstorming#Tabular_event_calendars
>
> Peace,
> Scott

The site is dynamic and on the intranet, so difficult to show
something, but the basic layout of the table is thus:

| Event 1 | 01-01-2007 | example.org/event1 | Organiser 1 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Event 2 | 02-02-2007 | example.org/event2 | Organiser 1 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Event 3 | 03-03-2007 | example.org/event3 | Organiser 2 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

I would like to be able to extract 2 contacts and 3 events from this
table, and the url (example.org/eventx) should only be connected to
the event.
My table row template is as follows:


  Event 1
  2007-01-01
  http://example.org/event1"; class="url">subscribe
  Organiser 1
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" class="email">contact

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