[uf-discuss] Re: microformats for normal people, like my mum
Miles Fidelman wrote: The Clark quote is any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Personally, I prefer the following, which I saw in someone's sig line recently: if it's distinguishable from magic, it isn't sufficiently advanced. Corollary: any sufficiently advanced magic is distinguishable from technology. -- Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS [Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux] [OS: Linux 2.6.12-12mdksmp, up 7 days, 11:54.] Long-Awaited Zeldman Article http://tobyinkster.co.uk/blog/2007/06/27/zeldman-in-time/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] Re: microformats for normal people, like my mum
Pelle W wrote: Wouldn't metadata-enabled browser be one possible description? Contact-aware browser; Calendar-aware browser; Geo-aware browser; etc... -- Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS [Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux] [OS: Linux 2.6.12-12mdksmp, up 7 days, 15:49.] Long-Awaited Zeldman Article http://tobyinkster.co.uk/blog/2007/06/27/zeldman-in-time/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Re: microformats for normal people, like my mum
On 6/28/07, Pelle W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that Microformat = XML and therefor you say that this reads microformats as much as you can say this reads XML. Well, microformats are one thing and XML is another so Microformat != XML. Or do you mean Terminology-wise/linguistically can be used in the same, in which case I ask does anyone say 'this reads XML' as a _marketing_ term. We already have a perfectly good technical name for microformats, i.e. microformats. On 6/28/07, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contact-aware browser; Calendar-aware browser; Geo-aware browser; etc... Because whatever term is invented, it will probably take 5 years to get into people's heads. Having a pile of different terms won't make this process any easier and will probably hinder/kill it. On 6/28/07, Tim Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microformats are bits of human readable data tagged so that a machine can do something with it. Tagging is already a common expression of a way of labelling content. content being many things, microformats being a way to tag many things. So how about tag-aware? Because microformats are _not_ tags. -- David Janes Founder, BlogMatrix http://www.blogmatrix.com http://blogmatrix.blogmatrix.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Re: microformats for normal people, like my mum
David Janes skrev: On 6/28/07, Pelle W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that Microformat = XML and therefor you say that this reads microformats as much as you can say this reads XML. Well, microformats are one thing and XML is another so Microformat != XML. Or do you mean Terminology-wise/linguistically can be used in the same, in which case I ask does anyone say 'this reads XML' as a _marketing_ term. We already have a perfectly good technical name for microformats, i.e. microformats. Both are methods of describing data in a way computers understand which means that it's what is described by those methods that should be named and not the methods because no one but developers really care about them and that's the main problem with giving Microformats a different name I think - it doesn't do anything in itself and the things described by the different standards is so simple and natural that it's hard to give them any special name. What differs a microformat address from a usual address on a webpage? Well - the latter kan be read by computers but it's still the same address so it's still just a simple address. It adds nothing other than the possibility of the browser understanding and extracting it and it's the same with many XML-standards such as RSS - it adds data which the browser/computer can understand and extract. If firefox needs a catchy phrase - then perhaps use Increased ability to extract data from webpages or something - because it's just as basic as that - no new names because a name is only useful for developers who needs to distinguish between methods - but the user doesn't care about the methods - they care about result! / Pelle ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
