Re: [uf-discuss] microservices
Killer idea. More information (still working on it) added here : http://microformats.org/wiki/OpenService_Extensions Regards, guido. Gustavo escribió: You can find a prototype implementation of this idea in this thread: https://labs.mozilla.com/forum/index.php/topic,654.0.html The idea behind this concept is for a website to be able to offer a service that could be applied to a microformat just publishing an xml, instead of developing and installing scripts/extensions for the firefox operator addon (in the same way that a website nowadays offers opensearch services) Any feedback on the interest of this topic would be very appreciated in order to continue this work in a possible specification and also in the implementation. BR, G. Jason Karns wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Gustavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be wrong - in which case, it's probably a good idea if we see if Microsoft's OpenService stuff gets implemented anywhere outside of Internet Explorer 8. Mike Kaply has produced another microformats-related extension for Firefox that uses IE8's Activities. http://www.kaply.com/weblog/2008/03/07/microsoft-activities-for-firefox-new-version/ ~Jason ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microservices
You can find a prototype implementation of this idea in this thread: https://labs.mozilla.com/forum/index.php/topic,654.0.html The idea behind this concept is for a website to be able to offer a service that could be applied to a microformat just publishing an xml, instead of developing and installing scripts/extensions for the firefox operator addon (in the same way that a website nowadays offers opensearch services) Any feedback on the interest of this topic would be very appreciated in order to continue this work in a possible specification and also in the implementation. BR, G. Jason Karns wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Gustavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be wrong - in which case, it's probably a good idea if we see if Microsoft's OpenService stuff gets implemented anywhere outside of Internet Explorer 8. Mike Kaply has produced another microformats-related extension for Firefox that uses IE8's Activities. http://www.kaply.com/weblog/2008/03/07/microsoft-activities-for-firefox-new-version/ ~Jason ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microservices
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Gustavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be wrong - in which case, it's probably a good idea if we see if Microsoft's OpenService stuff gets implemented anywhere outside of Internet Explorer 8. Mike Kaply has produced another microformats-related extension for Firefox that uses IE8's Activities. http://www.kaply.com/weblog/2008/03/07/microsoft-activities-for-firefox-new-version/ ~Jason ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microservices
Hi Tom, Thank you for your answer. Comments inline. Tom Morris wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Gustavo Garcia Bernardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how a web application could publish the support to offer a service for a type of microformat (i.e. hotmail could publish support to add hCards to your agenda and gmaps support to show a geo or addr in a map). Something like IE8 Activities (Microsoft openservice specification) but oriented to microformats (microservices/microactivities). I'm not sure there is a compelling need for them at the moment. Currently if you want to implement a service, you can quite easily write an Operator plugin. Operator plugins are great but AFAIK they don't follow any standard. I was interested in standard approaches. Often data from the Web (including microformatted data) will need pre-processing before submitting to a service - which would seem to make coming up with a 'service specification' both difficult and impractical. I don't know why that preprocessing couldn't be specified in the microservice specification. The approach of specifying a 'web service' language has been fraught with difficulties - as the current trend towards RESTful services instead of Web Services Architecture shows. A RESTful service is a Web Service from my perspective, I didn't mean SOAP. It would be a good idea to collect alongside microformats and other formats on the Web (whether embedded in markup or in other formats) possible services which they are, could or should be compatible with. If there is a common set of patterns between them, then perhaps it would be appropriate to standardise them in some way. I don't know why you ned a common set of patterns. You would just need a way for a service to specify that it can be invoked in context X (microformat/format X) and with the parameters a,b,c (that could be fields of that microformat X.a, X.b, X.c). I may be wrong - in which case, it's probably a good idea if we see if Microsoft's OpenService stuff gets implemented anywhere outside of Internet Explorer 8. Hopefully it will be. BR, G. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] microservices
Hi all, I was wondering how a web application could publish the support to offer a service for a type of microformat (i.e. hotmail could publish support to add hCards to your agenda and gmaps support to show a geo or addr in a map). Something like IE8 Activities (Microsoft openservice specification) but oriented to microformats (microservices/microactivities). Does it makes sense for you? Do you have any reference to previous work on this field? Thanks a lot, G. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] microservices
Hi all, I was wondering how a web page could publish a service for a type of microformat (i.e. hotmail could publish support to add hCards to your agenda and gmaps support to show a geo or addr in a map). Something like IE8 Activities (Microsoft openservice specification) but oriented to microformats (microservices/microactivities?). Does it makes sense for you? Do you have any reference to previous work on this field? Thanks a lot, G. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microservices
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Gustavo Garcia Bernardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how a web application could publish the support to offer a service for a type of microformat (i.e. hotmail could publish support to add hCards to your agenda and gmaps support to show a geo or addr in a map). Something like IE8 Activities (Microsoft openservice specification) but oriented to microformats (microservices/microactivities). I'm not sure there is a compelling need for them at the moment. Currently if you want to implement a service, you can quite easily write an Operator plugin. Often data from the Web (including microformatted data) will need pre-processing before submitting to a service - which would seem to make coming up with a 'service specification' both difficult and impractical. The approach of specifying a 'web service' language has been fraught with difficulties - as the current trend towards RESTful services instead of Web Services Architecture shows. It would be a good idea to collect alongside microformats and other formats on the Web (whether embedded in markup or in other formats) possible services which they are, could or should be compatible with. If there is a common set of patterns between them, then perhaps it would be appropriate to standardise them in some way. I may be wrong - in which case, it's probably a good idea if we see if Microsoft's OpenService stuff gets implemented anywhere outside of Internet Explorer 8. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
