Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means
On 12 Jul 2006, at 09:17, Ciaran McNulty wrote: On 7/11/06, Lee Amosslee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if I apply rel-tag, am I saying that this is an important link? Am I missing something? A little, I saw a couple of earlier replies but thought there were some bits I could clarify. With markup like: pTags: a rel=tag href=http://technorati.com/tag/foo;bar/ a/p You are not, as I think you've assumed, tagging the linked URL with the tag 'bar'. What you're actually doing is tagging the current page with the tag 'foo'. To clarify that even more, you're tagging the current page with [http://technorati.com/tag]'s definition of the word 'foo'. You could use a rel=tag href=http://your.server.org/tag/foo; and mean something completely different. alf. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means
On 7/11/06, Lee Amosslee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if I apply rel-tag, am I saying that this is an important link? Am I missing something? A little, I saw a couple of earlier replies but thought there were some bits I could clarify. With markup like: pTags: a rel=tag href=http://technorati.com/tag/foo;bar/a/p You are not, as I think you've assumed, tagging the linked URL with the tag 'bar'. What you're actually doing is tagging the current page with the tag 'foo'. I don't believe the content of the A is actually relevant to the tagging semantics, although having it match the tag is a good idea. This presumably frees you up to use different capitalisation or even language. From http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag: By adding rel=tag to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an author-designated tag (or keyword/subject) of the current page ... i.e. the semantics say something about the current page, not the URL being pointed at Tags are embedded in HTTP URIs in a well-defined manner so that the tag embedded in an HTTP URI can be mechanically extracted from that URI. Specifically, the last segment of the path portion of the URI (after the final / character) contains the tag value ... implying the tag in the example would be tagged with 'foo' rather than 'bar' The linked page SHOULD exist ... note that the linked page doesn't even have to be a real one, it's just a very good idea to link it to a page that is the index for all similarly tagged pages, to avoid presenting broken links. Hope this clarifies a few points? -Ciaran ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means
On 7/12/06, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/06, Lee Amosslee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With markup like: pTags: a rel=tag href=http://technorati.com/tag/foo;bar/a/p You are not, as I think you've assumed, tagging the linked URL with the tag 'bar'. What you're actually doing is tagging the current page with the tag 'foo'. Does a rev=tag href= href=http://technorati.com/tag/foo;bar/a have an implied meaning? thanks, dean. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means
On Jul 12, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Harry Dean Hudson Jr. wrote: On 7/12/06, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/06, Lee Amosslee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With markup like: pTags: a rel=tag href=http://technorati.com/tag/foo;bar/ a/p You are not, as I think you've assumed, tagging the linked URL with the tag 'bar'. What you're actually doing is tagging the current page with the tag 'foo'. Does a rev=tag href= href=http://technorati.com/tag/foo;bar/a have an implied meaning? No. @rel and @rev don't have any implication on each other. -ryan ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
RE: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means
The rel-tag ought to go onto a hyperlink that is a link that goes to a place where all websites that also use that tag, are going to. Wait... that's explained terribly! Take this example: http://www.technorati.com/tag/microformats is a page that shows all the entries on the web that contain a tag microformats, and are linking to that page. The sites that have that link have added the rel=tag attribute so that visitors to their page can see that that link is a reference to a tag. Other hyperlinks that are not going a destination like this do not require this attribute, as it isn't relevant. The rel-tag simply gives that one link *additional* meaning (it makes the link mean.. I'm a link, but more importantly, I'm also a tag to give this page some context!). Frances FRANCES BERRIMAN http://www.fberriman.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Amosslee Sent: 11 July 2006 16:35 To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means Greetings, I've read all the FAQ pages, and maybe I'm just being dense, but can someone explain to me the difference between a hyperlink that should include rel-tag and one that *shouldn't* include one? The microformats wiki states: By adding |rel=tag| to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an author-designated tag (or keyword/subject) of the current page. and rel=tag is specifically designed for tagging content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts). rel=tag is NOT designed for tagging arbitrary URLs or external content. So, if I apply rel-tag, am I saying that this is an important link? Am I missing something? Thanks. -- Lee Amosslee ShopInBerkeley.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag: Sorry, I'm confused as to what it means
On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Lee Amosslee wrote: I've read all the FAQ pages, and maybe I'm just being dense, but can someone explain to me the difference between a hyperlink that should include rel-tag and one that *shouldn't* include one? The microformats wiki states: By adding |rel=tag| to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an author-designated tag (or keyword/subject) of the current page. and rel=tag is specifically designed for tagging content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts). rel=tag is NOT designed for tagging arbitrary URLs or external content. So, if I apply rel-tag, am I saying that this is an important link? Not exactly. If you just want to mark a link as important, you could wrap it with em/em. When you mark it with rel=tag, you're saying the destination link has a relationship of tag to the current content (which may or may not make it important). Not every link has that relationship, so you should only use rel=tag when the link actually has a tag relationship. Further, you should only use it when linking to URLs that end with the text of the intended tag. Regardless of how related it might be to your post on umbrellas, you shouldn't link to http://www.umbrellas.com/archives/ with rel=tag unless you want to tag your content with the term archives, which you probably don't want to do, although it appears to be a somewhat popular tag: http://technorati.com/tag/archives/ Peace, Scott ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
