Re: [uf-discuss] Digg joins DataPortability Project (Microformats mentioned)

2008-02-01 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/29/08 6:24 PM, Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Digg has joined the DataPortability[1] Project:
 
 http://blog.digg.com/?p=108
 
 From the piece:
 
 Just this week, we added MicroID, a Microformat that lets you prove to
 other services that you own your Digg user profile.
 
 Since when was MicroID a Microformat? Reading through the spec, it
 does some very non-microformatty things:
 
 span class=score
 microid-mailto+http:sha1:ca94387152e8ea62fee73c45c4bae79e545434855/span

Manu you are correct, MicroID is *not* a microformat.  It did not follow the
process, and violates numerous microformats principles.

It can however be described as an attempt to represent some meaning in
semantic HTML (although storing such potentially arbitrary data values in
the class attribute is an anti-pattern).

Thus it is at best a poshformat and I will list it there.

http://microformats.org/wiki/poshformats


 It's great that they're doing the whole data portability thing, but
 looks like they're not quite sure about the details yet? Anyone know
 anybody at Digg that could shed some light on where they're going with
 all of this?

Previous to the PR about DataPortability, Digg had already implemented a
bunch of microformats support like XFN rel=me.

I expect Digg to continue to implement microformats support independent of
any PR efforts / announcements.

Thanks,

Tantek

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Re: [uf-discuss] Digg joins DataPortability Project (Microformats mentioned)

2008-02-01 Thread Manu Sporny
Tantek Çelik wrote:
 Manu you are correct, MicroID is *not* a microformat.  It did not follow the
 process, and violates numerous microformats principles.

I've been in contact with Steve Williams, Digg's Technical Lead for
Infrastructure Development, and he's been very open to discussion. We've
since cleared up the fact that MicroID is not a Microformat and I
explained a bit about the uF process. He was very open to discussing the
issue and has since fixed the blog entry:

http://blog.digg.com/?p=108

Steve got the impression that MicroID is a Microformat from the
microid.org blog, which states:

MicroID: A Microformat for Digital Identity

I have contacted Jeremie Miller and Peter Saint-Andre (authors for the
current MicroID IETF document) to politely let them know about the
differences between a Microformat and the work that they have done. I
have also invited them to put MicroID through the uF process or create
an RDFa vocabulary.

I'll let this list know when I have gotten a reply from them.

-- manu

-- 
Manu Sporny
President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
blog: Intro to the Semantic Web in 6 minutes (video)
http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2007/12/26/semantic-web-intro

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