Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats Process flowchart 0.1

2007-03-17 Thread John Allsopp

Thanks Drew,



I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts as to whether it is  
useful, and what needs changing/fixing


Looks great, John. Very useful for visualising the process.


I've approached the uf process in detail a couple of times.

Once when working on the tagcloud stuff (and despite linking each  
step of the way to the process, still seem to have effed it up.)


So, take two was for my bok, where we decided a chapter on the  
process was important for contextualizing, despite the significant  
majority of people interested in ufs being unlikely to ever develop a  
uf - the process is a key part of what makes something a microformat,  
and when I speak it is often question #1 - "how does something become  
a uf"?


Actually, recently, for the workshop I am involved in at IA Summit, I  
felt it important to cover the process, and so revisited the process  
page.


I've found each time it some work to really understand the process in  
detail (hence my original ^&*# up with tagclouds) and even with the  
flowchart, I am not sure I've got it 100% right :-/


I know it comes up quite a bit, particularly with those interested in  
proposing a microformat, where we typically refer them off to the  
process.
I hope something visual like this can help a bit. But of course, it  
has to be right!


thank again

john



drew.

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Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats Process flowchart 0.1

2007-03-17 Thread Drew McLellan

On 15 Mar 2007, at 23:23, John Allsopp wrote:

I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts as to whether it is  
useful, and what needs changing/fixing


Looks great, John. Very useful for visualising the process.


drew.

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Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats Process flowchart 0.1

2007-03-16 Thread Thom Shannon
you could create it in dot format and post that on the wiki, its very 
easy to edit and there's a plugin for media wiki that will render it 
out. Would be great to be able to illustrate various structures on 
there, processes and object relational diagrams etc


http://www.wickle.com/wikis/index.php/Graphviz_extension

John Allsopp wrote:

Hi all,

as part of the workshop at IA Summit on structured data, where I am 
doing a session on ufs, I have put together a flowchart to introduce 
people to the all important process of developing microformats. [1] 
I've not uploaded it to the wiki yet as


1. it might not be at all appropriate
2. it probably needs a lot of work, and as such, may well confuse more 
than it helps - and as it is not really editable, we can't really use 
the wiki process to do that.


There's also an omnigraffle version you can download [2] if you want 
to fix it up a bit (or just email me changes you think need making). 
Sorry that its in this format - I only have the standard version of 
graffle, so can't export as SVG - anyone who cares to do so, please 
feel free, and send it back.


I've tried to capture the current narrative description at the wiki 
[3] in a formal flowchart kinda way (note, 20 years since comp sci, 
flow chart may be completely wrong)


I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts as to whether it is 
useful, and what needs changing/fixing


thanks in advance

john

[1] http://microformatique.com/process/process.html
[2]  http://microformatique.com/process/process.zip
[3] http://microformats.org/wiki/process

John Allsopp

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Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats Process flowchart 0.1

2007-03-15 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy

SVG version is on http://dmitry.baranovskiy.com/process.svg

Give me a buzz if you need more.

Cheers,
Dmitry
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