Re: [Mikrotik] OSPF in 3.0
That would be really cool, actually. - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 12/1/2008 7:19pm To: Mikrotik discussions mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] OSPF in 3.0 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Kevin Neal wrote: From my understanding they added a few features. The configuration, at least in our network, hasn't changed, we have some 2.9.x and 3.x that are connected using OSPF that work fine. Now if we could just get that 2.9.x X86 box to quit randomly rebooting... In reality, there is a LOT of new features in 3.x. The configurations are pretty much interchangable, however. In other words, if you are currently using a more or less basic OSPF deployment in 2.9.x (which is about all you can do anyway), then you can use the same basic configuration in 3.x and it will work. The feature upgrades/additions are detailed in the changelog (well...as much detail as they ever put in the changelog). I'll put up a post regarding the specific benefits if anyone is interested. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/* WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/* Wired or Wireless Networks * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] R5H
Anyone using one of these yet? Any comments / complaints ? Reading the FCC Grant of Equipment Authorization, this seems to read to be a more liberal approval than I've seen on many other products. https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500application_id=884064fcc_id=TV7-R5H Grant Notes FCC Rule Parts Frequency Range (MHZ) Output Watts Frequency Tolerance Emission Designator * 15C* * 5745.0 * - * 5825.0 * * 1.0 * * *** Modular Approval: Output power listed is conducted. The end product must be professionally installed on a fixed or permanent structure with a separation distance of at least 2 meters from all persons and must not be co-located or operating in conjunction with any other antenna or transmitter. Marketing to the General Public is prohibited. Approval is limited to OEM integration with final product subject to professional installation only. OEM integrators must be provided with antenna installation instructions. OEM integrators, installers and Users must be provided with transmitter operation conditions for satisfying RF exposure compliance. Only those antenna(s) tested with the device or similar antenna(s) with equal or lesser gain may be used with this transmitter. Single Modular If I'm reading correctly, an OEM can install this in a final product that is to be installed professionally. Does not mention that end product which uses this card having to be certified. I've seen some vendors using the old R52 cards claim they are selling FCC Approved devices because they use the FCC approved R52 cards - - but the R52 authorization doesn't seem quite as liberal. See: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500application_id=946852fcc_id=TV7R52-350 Can we install these in metal boxes, stick a sticker on them that says, Contains FCC ID TV7-R5H and install these (professionally) on end users' homes or businesses and be legal? I know this has been debated before on other cards, but I seem to have missed out on those debates. BTW, this was tested with a 12dbi omni, 17dbi sector, 23dbi panel, 29dbi grid and 32dbi dish. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20081202/cfd514ad/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] R5H
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1037693native_or_pdf=pdf Items 5 and 6 are of the most interest. https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1037690native_or_pdf=pdf Page 5 states that it is a 1 watt radio, though Mikrotik only advertises it as 25 dBm. http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/R5H.pdf Page 19 states the antennas used, which should include most anything we'd need. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:01 PM To: MikroTik@mail.butchevans.com Subject: [Mikrotik] R5H Anyone using one of these yet? Any comments / complaints ? Reading the FCC Grant of Equipment Authorization, this seems to read to be a more liberal approval than I've seen on many other products. https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500application_id=884064fcc_id=TV7-R5H Grant Notes FCC Rule Parts Frequency Range (MHZ) Output Watts Frequency Tolerance Emission Designator * 15C* * 5745.0 * - * 5825.0 * * 1.0 * * * ** Modular Approval: Output power listed is conducted. The end product must be professionally installed on a fixed or permanent structure with a separation distance of at least 2 meters from all persons and must not be co-located or operating in conjunction with any other antenna or transmitter. Marketing to the General Public is prohibited. Approval is limited to OEM integration with final product subject to professional installation only. OEM integrators must be provided with antenna installation instructions. OEM integrators, installers and Users must be provided with transmitter operation conditions for satisfying RF exposure compliance. Only those antenna(s) tested with the device or similar antenna(s) with equal or lesser gain may be used with this transmitter. Single Modular If I'm reading correctly, an OEM can install this in a final product that is to be installed professionally. Does not mention that end product which uses this card having to be certified. I've seen some vendors using the old R52 cards claim they are selling FCC Approved devices because they use the FCC approved R52 cards - - but the R52 authorization doesn't seem quite as liberal. See: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500application_id=946852fcc_id=TV7R52-350 Can we install these in metal boxes, stick a sticker on them that says, Contains FCC ID TV7-R5H and install these (professionally) on end users' homes or businesses and be legal? I know this has been debated before on other cards, but I seem to have missed out on those debates. BTW, this was tested with a 12dbi omni, 17dbi sector, 23dbi panel, 29dbi grid and 32dbi dish. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20081202/cfd514ad/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Routerboard Recommendations.
Hey guys and gals, I have always used Mikrotik on a PC, but now have a need for some routerboards. I would like some input on which routerboard to put at some tower locations. Some background, we are mainly a Canopy Wisp. I am feeding 3 towers with backhauls from our main tower(NOC) that the backbone enters into. I am using a PC 'tik' box as a main router at our NOC before the traffic enters our upstream router, and using it to do several different things including bandwidth shaping, traffic prioritization, firewalls, etc... it is our only 'tik' at the moment. I am wanting to put some routerboards at each of the three other tower locations to cut down on the garbage coming across the backhauls and everywhere else on it's way back to the NOC. These towers have anywhere between 30 - 60 customers on them. What I would like to do at each tower is move some of the bandwidth shaping, traffic prioritization, firewalls, etc... to each tower. I doubt that each tower will ever have more than 120 customers, but would like to plan for the future in case we add 900Mhz AP's. Can you guys give me a routerboard suggestion to do this for the towers. We are mostly Canopy 900 Mhz, so no more than 4 Mbps aggregate can move through each of these towers at the moment, but could go to 8 Mbps. I would like the ability to add some 2.4 or 5.7 cards to these later on for LOS customers, so please include suggestions with the ability to add these cards later. Thanks for your time, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Routerboard Recommendations.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Scottie Arnett wrote: Some background, we are mainly a Canopy Wisp. I am feeding 3 towers with backhauls from our main tower(NOC) that the backbone enters into. I am using a PC 'tik' box as a main router at our NOC before the traffic enters our upstream router, and using it to do several different things including bandwidth shaping, traffic prioritization, firewalls, etc... it is our only 'tik' at the moment. I am wanting to put some routerboards at each of the three other tower locations to cut down on the garbage coming across the backhauls and everywhere else on it's way back to the NOC. These towers have anywhere between 30 - 60 customers on them. What I would like to do at each tower is move some of the bandwidth shaping, traffic prioritization, firewalls, etc... to each tower. I doubt that each tower will ever have more than 120 customers, but would like to plan for the future in case we add 900Mhz AP's. Some questions are in order to clarify your design goals. Are your 3 towers currently routed? In other words, is tower 1 on a different subnet than tower 2 and 3? If so, then the process will be much simpler and more straightforward. If not, then there is some work to be done in getting it set up that way. Based on your goal of moving traffic shaping and prioritization over to this new tower router configuration, I'd suggest the RB433AH routerboard. This board is a 680MHz router with 3 ethernet ports and 3 minipci slots (for your other future upgrade mentioned below). It's a pretty inexpensive device at about $150 plus case (indoor is $23 and outdoor $73). The RB493AH is the same CPU but has 9 Ethernet ports and 3 minipci slots. RB493AH is $169 plus about $30 for an indoor case. Outdoor case is gonna run about $70 plus, depending on the configuration. Either of these boards will do what you want with room to spare. FWIW, all ethernet ports on these are 10/100. If you want/need gigE, then RB600 or RB1000 is needed. Can you guys give me a routerboard suggestion to do this for the towers. We are mostly Canopy 900 Mhz, so no more than 4 Mbps aggregate can move through each of these towers at the moment, but could go to 8 Mbps. I would like the ability to add some 2.4 or 5.7 cards to these later on for LOS customers, so please include suggestions with the ability to add these cards later. The RB400 series and RB600 have minipci slots that would facilitate the radio cards. RB1000 does not. Hit me offlist if you're interested in a firm quote on the parts or if you are in need of assistance with the transition. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
